Gearing feels underwhelming.

[SaxonHoliday]

So I finally got my hands on the Gearing a few days ago (my second T10 destroyer... also my second T10 overall) and... honestly, I'm pretty disappointed. Despite seeming like almost a straight upgrade from the Fletcher besides a slightly worse turning radius and a very minor concealment disadvantage, I just... can't make the ship perform. Okay, so until recently, my fresh captain on her didn't even have 10 points, but even now that I have CE, it should almost be on par with my 18-point captain on the Fletcher, but it just... doesn't do it for me. I can't really tell if I'm playing the ship differently or what, but somehow I'm getting consistently worse results in Gearing compared to her predecessor. Has anyone else had this problem or am I just doing something wrong?

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

i do like my geating , but in another way just stay at fletcher,,,

[RambaRal]

I had the same feeling when I reached Gearing. My first games were not comparable to my Fletcher ones, even if I moved my Fletcher captain to her. As with lot of other ships, it's is just a matter of "keep playing and she'll kick in". You will learn to love her long range torpedoes: at the moment she's the most similar thing ingame to old Shimakaze gameplay.

Now I'm doing OK in Gearing (after a horrible period in December where I was not able to win a single game for 10 days in her) but anyway even if i feel confident I rarely manage to shine. 

 

On the other side I have problem with RU DDs: apparently I cannot Khaba...

 

[mtm78]

Try playing Shima.... 

 

[RambaRal]

Try playing Shima.... 

 

I do... sometimes.  

[mtm78]

Was for OP not you really... I mean comparing about Gearing? 

 

http://wows-numbers.com/ships/

 

I would use warships.today but site seems to be having issues. 

[GeneraIKrizmuz]

Gearing is a great ship. Seems like your captain is garbage and you are going through a string of poor games. Poor base to judge

[SaxonHoliday]

Try playing Shima.... 

 

Have had her for a while now (my first T10 and am almost to 100 matches) and I do well in her, most of the time. It's lovely oneshotting GKs and Yamatos, though when she can't do that, she fails horribly.

 

But maybe it really is just a matter of getting used to it. I'll give ol' Gearing a few more chances and see how I do.

[mtm78]

Well I don't have Gearing, but I do know Fletcher plays different then Gearing so you probably are still in your adjustment fase

 

[Spellfire40]

Well I don't have Gearing, but I do know Fletcher plays different then Gearing so you probably are still in your adjustment fase

Well better Torp range and 1 more gun for a bit less stealth and a wide hull that is much more likely to eat BB pens instead of overpens. That is compared to Fletcher it chases anything IJN away from a cap thogh you get wrecked by Khaba no matter the range in a Strait fight one on one.

 

Personally im way to agresive in mine but its a fun ship. And sadly enogh the best Torpedo DD in the game at high tir.

[El2aZeR]

Gearing is the ultimate knife fighter and should be geared as such (pun intended). At close range she will straight up outgun everything and anything she meets, even Khabas (the key is to use AP and aim for the armored sections to get massive damage returns). As such she actually requires a different playstyle than Fletcher despite being fairly similar at first glance, so keep that in mind.

[Spellfire40]

At close range she will straight up outgun everything and anything she meets, even Khabas

 

​And then the Khaba angles and wrecks you ,-) the only way you win agist a halfway competent Khaba is if you fire from smoke so he cant return or  land a Torp hit  ,-). On the up side you have much better Torps are sneaky and are much more nibble vs non Ru Laserarc guns.

[El2aZeR]

​And then the Khaba angles and wrecks you

 

In my experience either Khaba angles so hard that she can't use all guns, giving Gearing the advantage in an HE spam fight, or she will still eat pen damage. Either way, AP is key.

[GeneraIKrizmuz]

Khaba firepower and survivability are immense. At close range while kiting away, Khaba will shred Gearing into tiny bits before she can take half of Khaba's HP in return. In my Khaba I love contesting caps and crap on Gearings who think they have a chance in a gunfight. I remember taking on 2 full Fletchers at once in Khaba and I ripped through the first and then through the second one from like 7km

 

 

In my experience either Khaba angles so hard that she can't use all guns, giving Gearing the advantage in an HE spam fight, or she will still eat pen damage. Either way, AP is key.

 

Khaba kiting and using 4 guns will still hit more shells and do more damage than a Gearing trying to hit kiting Khaba

[El2aZeR]

Khaba kiting and using 4 guns will still hit more shells and do more damage than a Gearing trying to hit kiting Khaba

 

Which is ofc why you use your excellent concealment to your advantage. Close the distance first, then cut off a Khaba's retreat path and force her to either turn towards you or friendly ships or attack her when she has no other choice but to get closer due to terrain.

 

Gearing vs Khaba is very much winnable in a Gearing, it just takes more brain than brawn.

[GeneraIKrizmuz]

 

Gearing vs Khaba is very much winnable in a Gearing, it just takes more brain than brawn.

Not winnable if the Khaba player has an equal amount of brain. Which is the base upon all ship comparisons should rest

[El2aZeR]

Not winnable if the Khaba player has an equal amount of brain. Which is the base upon all ship comparisons should rest

 

Situational advantages such as the ones I described will give Gearing the edge, so she should win the majority of the time regardless of player skill. What I meant was that you need to identify those situations and use them accordingly instead of stupidly engaging head on in a gunfight right away (and thus most likely lose).

[SaxonHoliday]

Considering everything people have said... I've basically been trying to play Gearing like, well, an upgraded Fletcher, and therefore the same way I've played her predecessor: an excellent torpedoboat that just so happens to have fantastic guns. Then again, considering that a) apparently that's not how to best play her and b) I already have that with Fletcher, I should probably readjust her as a gunboat build... good thing I haven't spent any essential captain skills yet.

[GeneraIKrizmuz]

Considering everything people have said... I've basically been trying to play Gearing like, well, an upgraded Fletcher, and therefore the same way I've played her predecessor: an excellent torpedoboat that just so happens to have fantastic guns. Then again, considering that a) apparently that's not how to best play her and b) I already have that with Fletcher, I should probably readjust her as a gunboat build... good thing I haven't spent any essential captain skills yet.

 

The gearing is not a gunboat in the russian sense though - it's a cap bully first and a fleet sniper (torps) second as opposed to Fletcher which is fleet sniper first and cap bully second. Your strength is in the infight which is where you wanna be. Don't give up after a microscopic number of battles. She is a very fun ship to play

[EmilyFara]

I had the same problem with the Gearing. I absolutely adored the Benson and the Fletcher was just pure sex as an upgraded Benson.

But the Gearing just isn't the same. I have a feeling that it was just me being overconfident.

 

But just hold on, the Gearing is an absolute beast once you get to work with her. (And be careful with the torps, their increased range makes it easier to tk people with them. The torpedoes are the thing I hate most of my Gearing at the moment)

 

That all said, I currently suck again at the game and have to re-learn. Maybe it started sucking in the current meta

[GeneraIKrizmuz]

 

In my experience either Khaba angles so hard that she can't use all guns, giving Gearing the advantage in an HE spam fight, or she will still eat pen damage. Either way, AP is key.

 

went into training room and fired Gearing AP at slighly angled Khaba from about just about Gearing spotting range

 

 

[Fredater]

Not winnable if the Khaba player has an equal amount of brain. Which is the base upon all ship comparisons should rest

 

Strange, i win most battles in my gearing against khabas in close combats. Khaba eats alot of damage when you use AP on her. If she angle against you load HE and finish her as you will outgun her in that situation.

However khabas rarely engage in close combat if they do, gearing wins, atleast mine does 9 of 10 times in a 1vs1.

In the ranges 10km or above however, you dont pick a fight with any russian DD as a US DD.

 

 

 

Oh and Gearing is alot of fun to play, just give it a try it takes a time to adjust. Get atleast 300-400 ribbons per match or you play her wrong if you ask me. It's one of the best gunboats and together with torps you can kill anything.

 

[EmilyFara]

 

Strange, i win most battles in my gearing against khabas in close combats. Khaba eats alot of damage when you use AP on her. If she angle against you load HE and finish her as you will outgun her in that situation.

However khabas rarely engage in close combat if they do, gearing wins, atleast mine does 9 of 10 times in a 1vs1.

In the ranges 10km or above however, you dont pick a fight with any russian DD as a US DD.

 

 

 

Oh and Gearing is alot of fun to play, just give it a try it takes a time to adjust. Get atleast 300-400 ribbons per match or you play her wrong if you ask me. It's one of the best gunboats and together with torps you can kill anything.

 

 

Agreed, I don't engage an SN DD on ranges more than 7km. The shell velocity is too low to do any real damage and he has the clear advantage. However at 7km or below your ROF has the clear advantage over him. But you won't get out of that fight unscathed. So I will only engage a SN DD when I have the clear advantage or he is the last DD on their team and I'm not.

[medi0815]

Where is the problem? A Gearing has no need to search a fair fight with a Khaba. In a Gearing you hold the Khaba visible, mark it for fire support and if youself get spotted by the Khaba finish the Khaba. Normaly a Khaba is not a thread for a Gearing because the Gearing can choose the time to start the gun fight. A fair fight is much to expensive for a Gearing so be patient and let your team preparing the Khaba for your final attack.

[El2aZeR]

went into training room and fired Gearing AP at slighly angled Khaba from about just about Gearing spotting range

 

Because obviously having a stationary target while you're also stationary is representative in any way.

In an actual knife fight it is unlikely that Khaba can keep an angle with which she can use all her guns and bounce AP at the same time. Either way you're gonna have the advantage in a Gearing.

 

Besides, keep in mind that Gearing will always open up the fight, giving her at least 2 free salvos before Khaba can respond. Combine that with any sort of situational advantage and Gearing should win a knife fight 9/10 times (if only guns are used).