fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #26 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) If you really want to make the 32 plane screenshot consistent with the 28 plane illustration, then you get 2x4 fighters 2x5 torpedo bombers 2x5 dive bombers without AS. But I don't think the illustration is trustworthy. edit: Oh, El2azer figured it out before me... Edited March 20, 2017 by fnord_disc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CXIV] Cadelanne Players 519 posts 3,718 battles Report post #27 Posted March 20, 2017 Lower tier squadrons means slower squadron, means you get outmicro'd pretty badly. I've hated playing T6 planes on Hiryu vastly because of this so I doubt I'd pay anything to do it again. Anyway I've hated every T7 I went across except the Nagato so I guess this tier isn't meant for me ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #28 Posted March 20, 2017 I'm more inclined to : 2 x 5 fighters + 2 x 5 torpedo bombers + 2 x 4 dive bombers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] orlathebeast Beta Tester 630 posts 9,067 battles Report post #29 Posted March 20, 2017 she's so beautifull... but i'm a total noob with CV ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #30 Posted March 20, 2017 I need that ship, so very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #31 Posted March 20, 2017 I'm more inclined to : 2 x 5 fighters + 2 x 5 torpedo bombers + 2 x 4 dive bombers The small fighters in front in the render are clearly the Zeros. But it's not certain until we see screenshots from the game anyway, so there's no point arguing about it. As for the difference between T6/T7 planes: Fighters - Speed | DPS | Loadout | HP Mitsubishi A6M2 162 44 60 1,210 Mitsubishi A6M5c 162 57 46 1,410 TB - DMG | Speed | HP Nakajima B5N2 8,567 129 1,210 DB - DMG | Speed | HP Aichi D3A1 4,600 129 1,210 Aichi D3A2 4,600 139 1,400 = significantly worse fighters, same torpedo bombers, slightly slower and squishier DB. If you consider that you get 25% more torpedoes and 20% more bombs, you essentially trade fighter quality for significantly more powerful strikes. At T7 you can also still snipe carriers if the map is on the small side. This looks like an amazing seal clubber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #32 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) The small fighters in front in the render are clearly the Zeros. But it's not certain until we see screenshots from the game anyway, so there's no point arguing about it. As for the difference between T6/T7 planes: Fighters - Speed | DPS | Loadout | HP Mitsubishi A6M2 162 44 60 1,210 Mitsubishi A6M5c 162 57 46 1,410 TB - DMG | Speed | HP Nakajima B5N2 8,567 129 1,210 DB - DMG | Speed | HP Aichi D3A1 4,600 129 1,210 Aichi D3A2 4,600 139 1,400 = significantly worse fighters, same torpedo bombers, slightly slower and squishier DB. If you consider that you get 25% more torpedoes and 20% more bombs, you essentially trade fighter quality for significantly more powerful strikes. At T7 you can also still snipe carriers if the map is on the small side. This looks like an amazing seal clubber. I just follow the fact that they always put fighters in the back regardless CV. And the ones in the back are look like zeros too. Edited March 20, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #33 Posted March 20, 2017 The potato harvest will start soon... A high but squishy amount of planes in bad hands is going to do wonders for CV play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #34 Posted March 20, 2017 I just follow the fact that they always put fighters in the back regardless CV. And the one in the back are look like zeros too. They look clearly different to me. - Zeroes have a visibly smaller wingspan - Zeroes have straight leading edges, not parabolic like Vals - Zeroes have the tail wings offset to the front, Vals don't All of this is consistent with the planes in front being Zeros. Line drawings: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero_drawing.svg/940px-Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero_drawing.svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Aichi_D3A1_Val.svg/800px-Aichi_D3A1_Val.svg.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #35 Posted March 20, 2017 Another picture, officially from WOWS FB page Those secondary guns on the side there are so lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #36 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Another picture, officially from WOWS FB page Those secondary guns on the side there are so lol 10 x 200 mm secondaries Edited March 20, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #37 Posted March 20, 2017 http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/0001010000010000000010001001100019 Because why not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #38 Posted March 20, 2017 http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/0001010000010000000010001001100019 Because why not. And shoot APs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #39 Posted March 20, 2017 And shoot APs... I'm more afraid that Lesta will contrive to give 200mm secondaries like 4km range. But yeah AP would be bad too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-S] Kann_Nix_Extreme Players 388 posts 15,432 battles Report post #40 Posted March 20, 2017 Hope they don't stick to the crap idea of a reverse saipan. With lots of low tier planes ... while managable for good players, noobs will just fail even harder in this ship. Don't feel like we're gonna see a lot of quality play from our future Kaga teammates ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #41 Posted March 20, 2017 Hope they don't come up with some crap idea like reverse saipan. With lots of low tier planes ... that would be damn awful That is their idea....You have only tier 6 planes, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #42 Posted March 20, 2017 That is their idea....You have only tier 6 planes, lol What are you basing that on, though? Like, it makes sense, but what's the source? T6 and T7 planes look the same on Japanese carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CXIV] Cadelanne Players 519 posts 3,718 battles Report post #43 Posted March 20, 2017 The small fighters in front in the render are clearly the Zeros. But it's not certain until we see screenshots from the game anyway, so there's no point arguing about it. As for the difference between T6/T7 planes: Fighters - Speed | DPS | Loadout | HP Mitsubishi A6M2 162 44 60 1,210 Mitsubishi A6M5c 162 57 46 1,410 TB - DMG | Speed | HP Nakajima B5N2 8,567 129 1,210 DB - DMG | Speed | HP Aichi D3A1 4,600 129 1,210 Aichi D3A2 4,600 139 1,400 = significantly worse fighters, same torpedo bombers, slightly slower and squishier DB. If you consider that you get 25% more torpedoes and 20% more bombs, you essentially trade fighter quality for significantly more powerful strikes. At T7 you can also still snipe carriers if the map is on the small side. This looks like an amazing seal clubber. Same torpedo bomber because the regular Hiryu has T6 TBs, which means that T7 TBs don't exist. Doesn't mean that they are not total crap nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #44 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Like, it makes sense, but what's the source? T6 and T7 planes look the same on Japanese carriers. They don't. The color scheme is different. T7 planes are green, while T6 fighters and DBs are white as on the illustration. (That is ofc we assume the illustration is accurate in the first place) Edited March 20, 2017 by El2aZeR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronMannerheim Players 73 posts 3,265 battles Report post #45 Posted March 20, 2017 Wow! She's beautifull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #46 Posted March 20, 2017 They don't. The color scheme is different. T7 planes are green, while T6 fighters and DBs are white as on the illustration. (That is ofc we assume the illustration is accurate in the first place) More saturated version of the screenshot: The planes left are clearly green (Kates?) and the planes in the middle (Vals?) are clearly white/orange-y. So yes. T6. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #47 Posted March 20, 2017 be sure , its get nerfed on test , like saipan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSN] Ragweek Players 309 posts 9,074 battles Report post #48 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) be sure , its get nerfed on test , like saipan I'm not so sure. It has all t6 planes. they will take long to rearm and reload (extra planes in some of the squad plus slower flight times) It may have more of the same tier TB than the current T7 IJN cv but it will have lower tier fighters . Although I think It will be a very good CV I don't think it will be too OP when compared to the Saipan in its current state. Looking forward to getting this but If there are noobs in it they will get punished . Pluss I can guess it will be insane to farm experience by shooting down 90 planes in a game! With the new reward system. Edited March 20, 2017 by Ragweek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #49 Posted March 20, 2017 It is funny that they removed second torpedo squad of US CV and now they give Kaga two 5 torpedo bombers squad. Typical WG... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSN] Ragweek Players 309 posts 9,074 battles Report post #50 Posted March 21, 2017 It is funny that they removed second torpedo squad of US CV and now they give Kaga two 5 torpedo bombers squad. Typical WG... Its not a US torpedo squad Its an IJN one. So: The torps do less damage than the US ones. The planes are T6, so slower. YES I know the IJN cv has 1 plane less in a squad but this has weaker fighters too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
