Yohane1 Privateer 283 posts 28,614 battles Report post #1 Posted March 13, 2017 Topic title sais enough when cvs cant really get decent money out of great games. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #2 Posted March 13, 2017 time to start play other role pal 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #3 Posted March 13, 2017 while not the most popular of answers right now we should wait until wargaming has finished tinkering with the carrier mechanics before asking for a better CV economy. Carrier play is easily the hardest aspect of the entire game to balance. let them take it one step at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yohane1 Privateer 283 posts 28,614 battles Report post #4 Posted March 13, 2017 while not the most popular of answers right now we should wait until wargaming has finished tinkering with the carrier mechanics before asking for a better CV economy. Carrier play is easily the hardest aspect of the entire game to balance. let them take it one step at a time. Let's start with buffing the economy time to start play other role pal Yes. i play CV on 2nd main first comes cruiser. wich is the easiest money in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WIND] Elenortirion Players 1,890 posts 2,549 battles Report post #5 Posted March 13, 2017 last word on the case from WG claimed that CVs are on average earnign the same but with much lesser of "spread" on incomes - aka while other ship types have great games earnign huge amounts of moneys and have also extremely bad games barely earning anything, CVs according to WG are earning mostly similar amounts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murro_the_One Players 164 posts 4,367 battles Report post #6 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) the similarity with WoT arty concept is eye-puncturing also there they introduced some poisonous game mechanic which they cant fix for years, so they tried to nerf its performance, its progress etc. and there are still monkeys who play it and spread love similarly here in WoWs: mechanic where someone is safe in the corner of a map attacking others and most punishment which he can got is to lose planes....so yes, in WoWs you at least have chance to defend yourself regarding the inocome: i noticed that biggest noobs in this game play BB's (not saying all BB players are bad but big majority is) and then CV players so im pretty sure WG has the system set according to the generic performance and if you dont make enough credits its most probbly because there are other players who play the ship better ( =you are noob) Edited March 14, 2017 by Murro_the_One Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #7 Posted March 14, 2017 similarly here in WoWs: mechanic where someone is safe in the corner of a map attacking others and most punishment which he can got is to lose planes....so yes, in WoWs you at least have chance to defend yourself Ah, yes, another clueless scrub. Please line up behind stevlin, Spartan, avenger and Svartmetall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSN] Ragweek Players 309 posts 9,080 battles Report post #8 Posted March 14, 2017 the similarity with WoT arty concept is eye-puncturing also there they introduced some poisonous game mechanic which they cant fix for years, so they tried to nerf its performance, its progress etc. and there are still monkeys who play it and spread love similarly here in WoWs: mechanic where someone is safe in the corner of a map attacking others and most punishment which he can got is to lose planes....so yes, in WoWs you at least have chance to defend yourself regarding the inocome: i noticed that biggest noobs in this game play BB's (not saying all BB players are bad but big majority is) and then CV players so im pretty sure WG has the system set according to the generic performance and if you dont make enough credits its most probbly because there are other players who play the ship better ( =you are noob) How many games played in a CV : at big fat 0% Has a lot to say about CV players: tick Using time timeless classic "noob" insult: tick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murro_the_One Players 164 posts 4,367 battles Report post #9 Posted March 14, 2017 Ah, yes, another clueless scrub. Please line up behind stevlin, Spartan, avenger and Svartmetall. How many games played in a CV : at big fat 0% Has a lot to say about CV players: tick Using time timeless classic "noob" insult: tick. i have nothing to say to someone with most played ship being CV or to dedicated CV "player" you are lucky because WoWs has pretty civil community who tolerates such poison as CVs are, in WoT people realized and it was pretty common to TK, troll arty or just report them dont worry guys, WG is working on new interface so you can play you favourite RTS even better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #10 Posted March 14, 2017 i have nothing to say to someone with most played ship being CV or to dedicated CV "player" So being a better cruiser player than you means nothing? A better DD player? Better at playing BBs, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murro_the_One Players 164 posts 4,367 battles Report post #11 Posted March 14, 2017 So being a better cruiser player than you means nothing? A better DD player? Better at playing BBs, too? some people are better, some are worse, that does not give you any value in this argument except revels you are elitist pussy, which is pretty common on these forums i think i said everything i wanted to this topic so if you want to advocate existence of your beloved class, open new one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #12 Posted March 14, 2017 the similarity with WoT arty concept is eye-puncturing also there they introduced some poisonous game mechanic which they cant fix for years, so they tried to nerf its performance, its progress etc. and there are still monkeys who play it and spread love similarly here in WoWs: mechanic where someone is safe in the corner of a map attacking others and most punishment which he can got is to lose planes....so yes, in WoWs you at least have chance to defend yourself regarding the inocome: i noticed that biggest noobs in this game play BB's (not saying all BB players are bad but big majority is) and then CV players so im pretty sure WG has the system set according to the generic performance and if you dont make enough credits its most probbly because there are other players who play the ship better ( =you are noob) What load of nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #13 Posted March 14, 2017 some people are better, some are worse, that does not give you any value in this argument except revels you are elitist pussy, which is pretty common on these forums i think i said everything i wanted to this topic so if you want to advocate existence of your beloved class, open new one Generalize people playing ships he doesn't as "noobs". Says he's above talking to people playing those ships. Then whines that others are "elitist". The hypocrisy is astounding, yet also expected. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murro_the_One Players 164 posts 4,367 battles Report post #14 Posted March 14, 2017 Generalize people playing ships he doesn't as "noobs". Says he's above talking to people playing those ships. Then whines that others are "elitist". The hypocrisy is astounding, yet also expected. there is difference in this. i may use other words whan noobs to doscribe players who are burden to their teams and my observation is that they are mostly in BBs as it is most forgiving class so its obvious they are inclined to them. another on is CVs as its also forgiving in way that you are not in the fight at all. now to the elitist comment. i consider myself slightly above average player considering im stil learning the game. but i dont come and use my stats as argument if there is someone who might have lower stats thats why i reacted on elitist commnet the way i pointed it out because many people here feel priviliged because thgeir stats are more above average and they need to use that as argument Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #15 Posted March 14, 2017 "I notice the biggest noobs play BBs" >checks his stats, his BB stats are below 40% WR, while the rest is above 50% I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WIND] Elenortirion Players 1,890 posts 2,549 battles Report post #16 Posted March 14, 2017 where is my downvote button when I need it..... i have nothing to say to someone with most played ship being CV or to dedicated CV "player" you are lucky because WoWs has pretty civil community who tolerates such poison as CVs are, in WoT people realized and it was pretty common to TK, troll arty or just report them dont worry guys, WG is working on new interface so you can play you favourite RTS even better point in case: you are spewing bullcrap on the topic you have no idea about, about ship type which you are biased against because bad CV dared to touch your shiny ship. and f your post was meant as a sample of that "pretty civil community" CV players are lucky to have then I must sadden you now - your posts here are NOT civil. another on is CVs as its also forgiving in way that you are not in the fight at all. aaaaaaaaand if you have spend even a single pretty much in most basic of CVs you'd know how funny this sentence is [personally I find even destroyers more forgiving for errors than CVs atm] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murro_the_One Players 164 posts 4,367 battles Report post #17 Posted March 14, 2017 "I notice the biggest noobs play BBs" >checks his stats, his BB stats are below 40% WR, while the rest is above 50% I agree dont worry if statistics is not your strong point, ask mommy or google how to work with them and not to embarass yoursefl while trying to look cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #18 Posted March 14, 2017 there is difference in this. i may use other words whan noobs to doscribe players who are burden to their teams and my observation is that they are mostly in BBs as it is most forgiving class so its obvious they are inclined to them. another on is CVs as its also forgiving in way that you are not in the fight at all. now to the elitist comment. i consider myself slightly above average player considering im stil learning the game. but i dont come and use my stats as argument if there is someone who might have lower stats thats why i reacted on elitist commnet the way i pointed it out because many people here feel priviliged because thgeir stats are more above average and they need to use that as argument You still don't get hypocrisy works. And thinking that CVs are "forgiving" just shows how utterly clueless you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #19 Posted March 14, 2017 dont worry if statistics is not your strong point, ask mommy or google how to work with them and not to embarass yoursefl while trying to look cool Don't worry if BBs aren't your strong point, ask mommy and daddy or google how to work with them, and not embarass yourself. You said it yourself, the biggest noobs play BB. You play BBs, and are AWFUL at them. Ergo, you are one of the biggest noobs amongst the biggest noobs, by your own argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daki Weekend Tester 1,677 posts 20,280 battles Report post #20 Posted March 14, 2017 the similarity with WoT arty concept is eye-puncturing Maybe you meant BBs? BBs have much more similarity with arty in WoT than any other class... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #21 Posted March 14, 2017 dont worry if statistics is not your strong point Just looking at statistics without interpreting them is about as stupid as you make it out to be. So this goes straight back at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #22 Posted March 14, 2017 similarly here in WoWs: mechanic where someone is safe in the corner of a map attacking others and most punishment which he can got is to lose planes....so yes, in WoWs you at least have chance to defend yourself Stupidity really is unstoppable. I would like to edit in an image right now with a Yamato sitting at the back of the map with the scout plane up. You can't even shoot down a Yamato's shells. regarding the inocome: i noticed that biggest noobs in this game play BB's (not saying all BB players are bad but big majority is) and then CV players so im pretty sure WG has the system set according to the generic performance and if you dont make enough credits its most probbly because there are other players who play the ship better ( =you are noob) You have no place in judging that. You don't play carriers. You have no concept of how much a carrier earns based on performance. Your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant and you waste time, both yours and ours, in commentating on it. I can't comment on the amount a tank in World of Tanks makes because I have no concept of how much a tank SHOULD be making. You likewise have no place commenting on the earning potential of carriers. some people are better, some are worse, that does not give you any value in this argument except revels you are elitist pussy, which is pretty common on these forums You're the cretin whose sole argument is "if you're not making any credits then you aren't good enough". i have nothing to say to someone with most played ship being CV or to dedicated CV "player" Because to someone like that your argument is instantly invalid and you show yourself as the moron you are. Your argument was that the op was not making enough because he was not good enough of a carrier player. Therefore when confronted by one of the better carrier players who instantly renders your argument invalid on the basis of them also suffering from the economy you demonstrate a knee-jerk vestigial reaction, whether deliberately or reflexively, to calling them invalid on the basis of their class choice conveniently forgetting your previous comments that the op isn't a good enough CV player. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #23 Posted March 14, 2017 Dunno, i probably never made a negative balance with my CVs all the way up to tier 10 .. Think its fine. If course for people who play fighternoob decks that do 10k dmg a round and only pride themselves with hurr durr shooting down 25 enemy planes there wont be much credits at the end of the game, thats for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #24 Posted March 14, 2017 Dunno, i probably never made a negative balance with my CVs all the way up to tier 10 .. Think its fine. If course for people who play fighternoob decks that do 10k dmg a round and only pride themselves with hurr durr shooting down 25 enemy planes there wont be much credits at the end of the game, thats for sure. War Gaming actually gears carrier play towards fighter decks now. I generally won't make any more than literally barely enough to scrape by on my Taiho even with the high 100k in damages (admittedly with premium consumables and credit camo) unless I down at least 20-30 enemy planes as well. The main issue with carriers, IMO, is that it punishes success and rewards idiocy. I remember wiping out several tier 10 destroyers and battleships and shooting down 35 planes in one match, only to come third in XP. On the other hand, a Shokaku I met last night, running a fighter deck, managed all of 7 plane kills over the entire match and somehow ended in the lower middle part of the leaderboards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #25 Posted March 14, 2017 Maybe you meant BBs? BBs have much more similarity with arty in WoT than any other class... Give this man a cookie. 2 clicks every 30 seconds looks like arty, a carrier can easily be about 100 APM (The UI doesnt support more anyway ) BTW, shameless video of myself, just check the damage, check the reward, now you say they are properly rewarded, 2250 basic xp and 240k credits for this game. Also in the future, if you never played CVs, just shut up, dont shame yourself talking about something you have no idea about. (Saying "I see whats they can do" only makes you look even dumber) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites