Proliferation of rare "Premium" ships available via campaigns or via huge amount of FreeXP ("Missouri", "Admiral Graf Spee" and "Shinonome")...

[Leo_Apollo11]

 

Hi all,

 

I regularly post this in:

 

"Some interesting info from RU"

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/31444-some-interesting-info-from-ru/

 

but I think it deserves new topic...

 

 

From MapleSyrup...

 

Number of recent (last week 2017/02/25 - 2017/03/04) "Premium" ships available via campaigns or via huge amount of FreeXP ("Missouri", "Admiral Graf Spee" and "Shinonome") on WoWs servers!

 

EU:

"Missouri": 333 unique Player IDs (with peak of 1159 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

"Admiral Graf Spee": 695 unique Player IDs (with peak of 7169 unique Player IDs in week 2017/01-14 - 2017/01/21)

"Shinonome": 113 unique Player IDs (with peak of 197 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

 

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20170304/eu_week/average_ship.htmll

 

 

NA:

"Missouri": 301 unique Player IDs (with peak of 1066 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

"Admiral Graf Spee": 563 unique Player IDs (with peak of 6297 unique Player IDs in week 2017/01/14 - 2017/01/21)

"Shinonome": 85 unique Player IDs (with peak of 179 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

 

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20170304/na_week/average_ship.html

 

 

ASIA:

"Missouri": 237 unique Player IDs (with peak of 543 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

"Admiral Graf Spee": 463 unique Player IDs (with peak of 5253 unique Player IDs in week 2017/01/14 - 2017/01/21)

"Shinonome": 74 unique Player IDs (with peak of 177 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

 

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20170304/asia_week/average_ship.html

 

 

So... as you can see the proliferation of those ships is really really small... what is specially interesting is extremely low number of "Shinonome"...

 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

[Admiral_noodle]

Shinonome is a hard slog to get that's all. I'm about half way there. It will feel like a proper reward when I get it.

[CuddlyPanda]

what is specially interesting is extremely low number of "Shinonome"...

 

Maybe people still don't know they can repeat a mission multiple times for the pins. The UI does not convey that information properly 

[walter3kurtz]

But what is the problem exactly? It's ok that stuff is hard to achieve.

[Jethro_Grey]

Shino0nome is hard to, but she sure is worth it even tho her torp angles are rather un-IJN-ish.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

But what is the problem exactly? It's ok that stuff is hard to achieve.

 

 

There is no problem...

 

But the "issue" is that we are really small community (although we sometimes belive that we rae much much bigger) and that overall number of good players (able to finish hard campaigns) is really limited...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[_ramrus_]

Make BB a campaign reward. Problems solved

[Allied_Winter]

Interesting numbers thanks!

 

As for the She-no-know-me: Yesterday I unlocked stage 5.... finally... so the next unique player ID for your statistics is in reach

 

 

Greetings

[Earl_of_Northesk]

I would not trust maplesyrup on anything and I suspect that data to be highly incomplete. They never track all games played in a week.

[T0byJug]

Shinonome is a hard slog to get that's all. I'm about half way there. It will feel like a proper reward when I get it.

 

She is SOOO worth it... She is a great little crew trainer. Good Guns GREAT torps. Training up IJN commander to 19 points Play her and My Kamakazee almost every day till i get first win.

I must play to much i have all 3 and no i spent no cash getting Missouri(well apart from 1 santa box with 50k free XP)

 

Shinonome she is not that hard to get. Just time and sensible picking of missions Find one at each stage you find easy and repeat. Some of you have divitioned up with me I am above average  but nothing spatial

 

Cant remember the mission i did the last stage with but  one of them was easy

[dasCKD]

"Shinonome": 113 unique Player IDs (with peak of 197 unique Player IDs in week 2016/12/31 - 2017/01/07)

 

I have a Shinonome, I just don't like playing her

[Loran_Battle]

Maybe people still don't know they can repeat a mission multiple times for the pins. The UI does not convey that information properly 

 

I feel this is ALL too true.

 

I have all those three ships (and played them lately afaik). So now I feel like a special snowflake thanks!

 

On a serious note. Graf Spee wasn't that hard to get IMHO.

Shinonome is more a question of time then real difficulty if you just repeat tasks that you can achieve.

Missouri is a question of "throw money at screen" in most cases (it kinda was for me, but I used paypal gold buy with discount and 1:35 free xp conversions along with my already accumulated free xp pool, so in the end not that expensive and definitely worth it!).

 

I am kinda interested in seeing the amount of flints and blacks played... I don't have those (I hate ranked).

[Z_OnkelE]

This list of ships simply shows the general feeling the player gets about them: one really great ship and two weird ones, who are weird in their own way (which does not mean they are bad).

 

• Missouri just kicks as...! But it takes a bit more time/commitment to get her.

 

• Graf Spee has one niche: killing cruisers. Destroyer are quite a hard encounter with her.

 

• Shinonome simply takes ages to get and then you suddenly realise: she has pretty much all stats of a T6 Fubuki, a ship that lost its flair completely by being shafted the most with the IJN tree split.

Only reason that keeps the Shinonome going: a player probably has a CE captain available in all cases and thus aids her in the most important characteristic WG screwed her and the Fubuki the most (ever tried the Fubuki without it and stock torps??? I don't know what the devs were smoking at that time... ). In addition to the CE Shinonome has torps which make you play with more discipline in regards which targets you pick. And wow: one more gun... she has ONE more than the Fubuki.

That all makes her a bit odd.

 

I think the numbers represent what it takes (or took) to get those ships and how it feels playing them. Missouri numbers yell "Oh, great ships, let's buy her! Oh, I don't have much time to play anyway and T9/T10 isn't really all that fun.", Graf Spee "Yeah, finally a free ship, let's buy her anyway. Wow, she is weird." and with the Shinonome it is "Oh, a classic IJN torpedo boat, I love that."

[T0byJug]

This list of ships simply shows the general feeling the player gets about them: one really great ship and two weird ones, who are weird in their own way (which does not mean they are bad).

 

• Missouri just kicks as...! But it takes a bit more time/commitment to get her.

 

• Graf Spee has one niche: killing cruisers. Destroyer are quite a hard encounter with her.

 

• Shinonome simply takes ages to get and then you suddenly realise: she has pretty much all stats of a T6 Fubuki, a ship that lost its flair completely by being shafted the most with the IJN tree split.

Only reason that keeps the Shinonome going: a player probably has a CE captain available in all cases and thus aids her in the most important characteristic WG screwed her and the Fubuki the most (ever tried the Fubuki without it and stock torps??? I don't know what the devs were smoking at that time... ). In addition to the CE Shinonome has torps which make you play with more discipline in regards which targets you pick. And wow: one more gun... she has ONE more than the Fubuki.

That all makes her a bit odd.

 

I think the numbers represent what it takes (or took) to get those ships and how it feels playing them. Missouri numbers yell "Oh, great ships, let's buy her! Oh, I don't have much time to play anyway and T9/T10 isn't really all that fun.", Graf Spee "Yeah, finally a free ship, let's buy her anyway. Wow, she is weird." and with the Shinonome it is "Oh, a classic IJN torpedo boat, I love that."

 

I dont get the hate for the Fubuki at tier 6 she is great. The faster and shorter range torps on the Shinonome make her better but Fubuki is still a good DD. OK i never played her stock at tier 6 but many ships in this game are crap when stock but very good when upgraded .

[von_chom]

i got shino but never actually played it, in this case its not counted

the numbers are for owned and played

[mtm78]

6 more pins needed for Shinome, Graf Spee was a cakewalk, Missouri is not something I'm even close to as I always use my free xp to shorten / cut out stock grinds. 

 

And I got so many free xp signals and cammo's but I never use them as I got so many others which seem more useful. 

[Corvi]

Shinonome is a hard slog to get that's all. I'm about half way there. It will feel like a proper reward when I get it.

 

How so ? It took me 3 days to get it, found it very easy and not challanging at all .. I just kept repeating the XP missions or the ones for fires/floodings. Was very easy with Essex.

[loppantorkel]

So... as you can see the proliferation of those ships is really really small... what is specially interesting is extremely low number of "Shinonome"...

The proliferation of rare ships is small.. It's maybe better to stumble upon rare ships once and awhile rather than seeing them too often. I played shinonome today, but I think it's been a couple of months since last time. It seems like a good ship, but I've got other ships I prioritize playing, for fun or grind.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

did played once in shinonone , its meh not for me

[Gnirf]

Have them all. Most of the thing was to have them as a collector.

Graf Spee: was more a question to grind hard during the last week when the final stage was opened, time more than skill was necessary.

Played her a few times, will play her more but focus last months has been on grinding RU DDs and some other lines. It is not the ship I grab for especially when playing to relax and get solid performance then it is König NM/Az Ishizuchi and also Nikolai, Kamikaze Chikuma bogatyr time is not kind to any of these premiums

 

 

 

Missouri at T9...well Iowa bowtank meta is not so fun but I will go to Montana , tried her in Coop just to test LWMs advice of coop which is more fun if you want agressiveness and still earn Money. I never play coop otherwise but it is only a few games, strip premium consumables.

 

Shinomone played her but not the last weeks, it depends on captain grinding but I like Kamikaze more and Fubuki w 10 km torps. With Shinos 8 km torps and uptiered to T8 with DDs w Concaelment advantage she is not so fun  (Fubuki at least have its 10 km torps) and Kami goes Ok in T7.

But I have not abandoned her it is just that I like other ships more (got 130+).

 

It is like other posts say just to repeat the missions to get pins the 200000 dmg to US (or whatever country) you will get in the end likewise damage modules, get top three XP in winning team etc all which have T8 will reach them. It is just at last stage you need a T10.

I did not have a Essex (or similar favourite) like Corvi, mostly games before the T10 demands I played with IJN DDs, Chapayev, Mogami, Bismarck, NC, Iowa and a Little Yamato. So I could combine grinding trees, campaigns also with the ARP missions a lot. It was more persistence than skill, my WR stats suffered during the Campaign. Whilst the science mission I have done all tasks except 1 I am left with many in the hon service and I never even will try to fix them. (CV related).

[ColonelPete]

I would not trust maplesyrup on anything and I suspect that data to be highly incomplete. They never track all games played in a week.

On what do you base your theory?

[CptMinia]

I've got all three of them, as a ship collector I couldn't pass on any of them

 

Missouri is great fun, it also helps so much in earning credits! Throw gamescom camo and credit flags and in a good game you will easily see above 1 million credits. The most I've earned in her atm is 1.76 million credits.

Graf Spee is alright, personally I don't like her much since I'm a BB player. I don't like those half-breeds But again, had to get her cause hey. Free premium.

I got my shinonome not too long ago, about 2-3 weeks. She's basically a Fubuki with slightly better torps, again good fun. I actually like her quite a bit, although could be bias cause kraken in first game with her

[rage1750]

Well thanks for making me feel like an idiot guys; I just found out that you can repeat missions to earn pins to earn the Shinonome - DERP 

 

You would have thought that I would have known (or at least suspected) that given I repeated the missions to earn the Tirpitz camo on the Santa missions; alas stupid is as stupid does.

 

I am currently saving up my free XP for the Missouri, 250,000 free XP to go.  The Graf is a good ship, I find that a good number of BB players (especially IJN Kongo, Fuso, Nagato) players seem not to respect her guns and sail broadside on for an AP paddling; I stick my Scharnhorst/Tirpitz captain in her, when coupled with the ships defensive fire and the Captains manual secondaries + manual AA she is a very formidable little cruiser even if she is a bit slow.

[Z_OnkelE]

I dont get the hate for the Fubuki at tier 6 she is great. The faster and shorter range torps on the Shinonome make her better but Fubuki is still a good DD. OK i never played her stock at tier 6 but many ships in this game are crap when stock but very good when upgraded .

 

Fubuki has become a one trick pony and due to even worse concealment than the Hatsuharu and worse mobility than her she has a really hard time. To be decent, like the Shinonome, you need the Torpedo Acceleration on top of all the other perks. I think that says a lot about a ship, that was once more or less the peak of the line.

 

The most I've earned in her atm is 1.76 million credits.

 

Mine seems to be broken. I have never gone past 1M, even with premium taken into account. And I think I do quite well in her... (except when the round is one of these 5 minutes one-sided slaughter again  )

[Admiral_noodle]

 

How so ? It took me 3 days to get it, found it very easy and not challanging at all .. I just kept repeating the XP missions or the ones for fires/floodings. Was very easy with Essex.

 

Playing tier 8+ a lot. That's the hard bit. But I'm getting there now I have high tier ships I want to play.