[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #601 Posted April 12, 2017 All it really needs now is 30mm of deck armor, a dps per postwar radar FCS guided double 57mm mount higher than a German mid war twin 37mm mount (what the hell were they thinking on that one?), and it could shape up to be a decent ship. Still worse than the Moskva, but at least on par with Hindenburger and Des Memes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #602 Posted April 16, 2017 In fact, Henri IV has a upper deck of 25 mm and a lower deck of 80 mm. But due to game mechanism, the shells only need to pen that upper deck to deal normal dmg to the ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #603 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) In fact, Henri IV has a upper deck of 25 mm and a lower deck of 80 mm. But due to game mechanism, the shells only need to pen that upper deck to deal normal dmg to the ship. Because directly put 80mm on the upperdeck was too hard to do for a completly paperdream ship... Edited April 16, 2017 by Psychocouac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #604 Posted April 16, 2017 I'm starting to believe that someone laced WG's vodka supply with some bad decision juice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #605 Posted April 16, 2017 Maybe they had a bad experience with Grey Goose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #606 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) New tier 6 French premium CL De Grasse. It is a faster La Galissonnière with different AA config. Well done, Lesta, another clone. Source : https://www.facebook.com/WorldofWarshipsAsia/ Edited April 17, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #607 Posted April 17, 2017 I bet that she will have a 7.5s reload because of reasons. Making her a better La Galissonnière... GG WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #608 Posted April 17, 2017 That camo is ugly as sin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #609 Posted April 17, 2017 Still waiting for Aosta and Hood, they should deliver, not just announce. Great looking ship however! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #610 Posted April 17, 2017 So we all agree, the most exciting thing to come of the patch isn't the 10 entire tiers of French ships, but rather that singular tier6 Italian cruiser? Gotta hand it to WG, that's impressive. Making a branch (plus premium) so bland and uninteresting that it loses the hype battle to a single classic 4x2 152mm premium CL. And hold up, because the finishing move, the proverbial crowd pleaser? The Duca d'Aosta as fast without a speed boost than most French cruisers that have it active "The Henri IV is as good as the Moskva, the French cruisers have an emphasis on speed" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #611 Posted April 17, 2017 So we all agree, the most exciting thing to come of the patch isn't the 10 entire tiers of French ships, but rather that singular tier6 Italian cruiser? Gotta hand it to WG, that's impressive. Making a branch (plus premium) so bland and uninteresting that it loses the hype battle to a single classic 4x2 152mm premium CL. And hold up, because the finishing move, the proverbial crowd pleaser? The Duca d'Aosta as fast without a speed boost than most French cruisers that have it active "The Henri IV is as good as the Moskva, the French cruisers have an emphasis on speed" Tbh? You are almost 100% right. I'm eagerly awaiting for Duca d'Aosta and that Mogami buff. I'll be probably more interested in French battleships even though I rather play cruisers the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #612 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) OH GOD WG GO KILL YOURSELF SERIOUSLY! So you have decided to [edited] everything that could be interesting concerning the Marine Nationale?! Damn hell why the [edited] an other clone? What is really enjoying about a [edited] TVI clone that every other nation have seriously. Get your [edited] brain off your vodka glass. Edited April 17, 2017 by Psychocouac 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #613 Posted April 17, 2017 New tier 6 French premium CL De Grasse. It is a faster La Galissonnière with different AA config. Well done, Lesta, another clone. Source : https://www.facebook.com/WorldofWarshipsAsia/ Wut. "Historical stats as of 1941" If I remember correctly there was no De Grasse in 1941 because it wasn't finished before Germany invaded (who then started converting her into a aircraft carrier). Post war it was completed but with 8x2 127mm guns, kind of similar to an Atlanta. Why can't we have this, something actually different instead of copy pasting a boring version of a ship in a config that she never had during her service? Why put De Grasse in game if you are not going to actually make it De Grasse as she was build. Unless it is a hull upgrade or something this seems really crappy and a flatout better version of the tech tree counterpart (instead of a sidegrade with different playstyle or something interesting). Can't wait to see WG claiming this ship to be balanced compared to La Galissoniere because they took out speed boost 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #614 Posted April 17, 2017 OH GOD WG GO KILL YOURSELF SERIOUSLY! So you have decided to [edited] everything that could be interesting concerning the Marine Nationale?! Damn hell why the [edited] an other clone? What is really enjoying about a [edited] TVI clone that every other nation have seriously. Get your [edited] brain off your vodka glass. Unhappy Frenchman is unhappy and angry too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #615 Posted April 17, 2017 Unhappy Frenchman is unhappy and angry too. Because you see something to be happy about? The whole line is crap. And now a beautiful ship is release in a stock version while the completed version isn't in the game. It will just be an other clone, boring as hell. Great... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #616 Posted April 17, 2017 Because you see something to be happy about? Yeah! The French ship are coming! And... They're crappy... Right. Nothing to be happy about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #617 Posted April 17, 2017 So they took a ship that could be very interesting and converted it in a clone, which also was never completed. Fantastic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] The_Flying_Dutchman114 Players 168 posts 24,552 battles Report post #618 Posted April 17, 2017 Better named it "Gloire". Was commissioned in 1937 and had at some point (almost) the same dazzle camouflage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #619 Posted April 17, 2017 Well looks like we should all take a break until they release a decent line again, since the last few were all crap or have / will be nerfed to death. I read somewhere that Shiratsuyu will lose torpedo reload booster. Is that true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship_Richelieu Beta Tester 554 posts 948 battles Report post #620 Posted April 17, 2017 Unhappy Frenchman is unhappy and angry too. They should release Hood in her 1921 setup, with 1941 speed, without the armor & AA refits. What do you think ? What are the next steps ? 1940 Jean Bart premium with a single turret ? Le Fantasque with a maximum speed of 39 knots ? Wargaming is taking a dump on the Marine Nationale, as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,770 battles Report post #621 Posted April 17, 2017 They should release Hood in her 1921 setup, with 1941 speed, without the armor & AA refits. What do you think ? This could be fine... As a Tier 5. What are the next steps ? 1940 Jean Bart premium with a single turret ? Le Fantasque with a maximum speed of 39 knots ? I bet that you're closer to the truth than you think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship_Richelieu Beta Tester 554 posts 948 battles Report post #622 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) I bet that you're closer to the truth than you think... Don't worry, I fully expect the French DDs to be crap, only glorious soviet DDs can use magical "empty hull with no guns" trial speeds for combat and cold-war paper "make Papa Stalin happy" laser guns. Le Fantasque will have a maximum speed of 39 knots and no defining feature minus speed boost. Then WG will proceed to brag about their immense capture contesting prowess and baguette shaped hull~~ xaxaxa Edited April 17, 2017 by Battleship_Richelieu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #623 Posted April 17, 2017 Courbet is still a T8 option and de Grasse could have 152mm aa bubble as a DP gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #624 Posted April 17, 2017 WG makes a line simple... people complain it's boring and doesn't have unique style. WG makes a line different... people complain it's dumb, trying to hard to be different and will be bad. WG make premiums that are different to the normal tree ships... people complain they're OP, P2W or useless because they need completely different captains. WG make premiums that are similar to normal tree ships... people complain they are clones and boring. WG put "what-if" ships to balance the main tree and the real ones as premium... people complain it's money grab. WG put real ships in the tech tree and give "what-if" premium... people complain the ship didn't exist like that. Basically, people complain. That's all I've seen at the release of every new line and every new premium. For those who couldn't be bothered to spend 30 seconds on google/wikipedia, that De Grasses is how the design would have looked if she was actually built during the war. As people have pointed out, she was finished differently so this is a "what-if". We have many ships like that already. You can see the real De Grasse has basically the same hull, so it is the same ship. But it's OK, not like anyone cares, you can all go back to complaining now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puxflacet Players 1,694 posts 3,784 battles Report post #625 Posted April 17, 2017 i must say i love the camouflage Nimrod411, on 17 April 2017 - 03:31 PM, said: Better named it "Gloire". Was commissioned in 1937 and had at some point (almost) the same dazzle camouflage. not "almost"...that is la Gloire's camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
