mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #476 Posted April 5, 2017 12km torps omg wtf are they doing.... This thing was meant to play aggressive, aka flamu style. Now you get shitters who try to snipe with them the whole game and spam 12km torps from second or third line 'because they can'. Give it back the aggressive torps, don't make the game even worse FFS wg. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #477 Posted April 5, 2017 12km torps omg wtf are they doing.... This thing was meant to play aggressive, aka flamu style. Now you get shitters who try to snipe with them the whole game and spam 12km torps from second or third line 'because they can'. Give it back the aggressive torps, don't make the game even worse FFS wg. Goddammit Marvin! Don't expect WG to do sensible things (the change to torps sucks) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #478 Posted April 5, 2017 10-12 second reload for 8 or 9 152-155mm guns ? What the flying ****? 203mm guns reloading faster, but the krupp and air drag not changed, so you still have a hard time hitting and penning? What the flying ****? Speed boost to 15% Yay, French cruisers can now actually follow fast cruisers while they have the boost active. What the flying ****? D'Aosta now has 12km torpedoes. Ok now WG is just jerking the French branch around. April Fools was 4 days ago you drunken idiots! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship_Richelieu Beta Tester 554 posts 948 battles Report post #479 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) I can understand nerfing Friant, 4x2 setup with a fast reload is just massively overpowered at TIII... But Trouin, Emile Bertin & la Galissonnière ?.. I just don't know what to say at this point. "The Tier 4, 5 and 6 French Cruisers were remotely playable and enjoyable, this will be fixed with the next patch." Why would you ever pick la Gali over Cleveland or Budyonny now ? Edited April 5, 2017 by Battleship_Richelieu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #480 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Bougainville was too weak and needed buff. Friant was OP so its nerf is justified. Duguay-Trouin, Emile Bertin and Galissonnière are only OP if you can kite your enemies. Edited April 5, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #481 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Maybe read the notes Tuccy put at the end of each line? Maybe that will clear up some confusion? You guys fly off the handle way too easily based on stats and no actual play experience PS: Darth, you don't actually know that, so stop making it look like you do. Edited April 5, 2017 by piritskenyer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #482 Posted April 5, 2017 Like I care about PN's when it's pretty obvious giving a tier VI CL 12km slow [edited]torps is not helping anyone but shitters who will fire them from second or third line continously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAK3N] Seisset Players 96 posts 9,452 battles Report post #483 Posted April 5, 2017 So... speed boost gives 15%? so the algerie for example can go up to... 35,65kn? very impressive... NOT okay, tier 1&2 get a reload buff... who cares... 3, 4 and 5 get the same reload of abyssmal 12 seconds... to get used to the later tiers? that seems horrible, but well... you have to go through (or is wargaming afraid that we might play them as the best parts of the tree and not free exp them?) same goes for the tier6, afraid of having it competitive? Algerie has faster turning turrets... i wasn't aware that this was her problem, but we probably should take what we can get. 8&9 get a nice reload buff... okay, that seems nice indeed, can't complain about that tier 10... the great mystery... okay, a typo in the krupp values? seems some testers where right with that strange impressions they had air drag reduced too, now i will hope that the penetrations are better... but i am 99% sure that they will still be significantly worse than moskwa? (captain russianbias can hear you) and the duca? well... even more nimble, but wha those slow torps... mfg Ciao Seisset Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #484 Posted April 5, 2017 tier 10... the great mystery... okay, a typo in the krupp values? The just won't admit they f*cked-up with the values on it, so what do you know it was a silly typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #485 Posted April 5, 2017 Duca torp change is not really bad. With TA, you get 56 kt and 9,6 km range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MungaH Alpha Tester 127 posts 4,481 battles Report post #486 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Duca torp change is not really bad. With TA, you get 56 kt and 9,6 km range. Well, with those torps they are pretty saying: "take that goddamn skill" I guess that Flamu is gonna have a real good time with these changings Edited April 5, 2017 by MungaH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAK3N] Seisset Players 96 posts 9,452 battles Report post #487 Posted April 5, 2017 well, too bad it is with the old stats, but every piece of information should be wellcome mfg Ciao Seisset Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azakeit Players 450 posts 8,264 battles Report post #488 Posted April 5, 2017 Well anyway I won't take Torpedo acceleration skill for this ship, better save the points for another skill :/ They changed the aggressive torps for rushing a BB or CA to long range interdiction torp to launch into smokes or in a cap. Weird to have a good ship buffed and average ships nerfed... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #489 Posted April 5, 2017 Maybe read the notes Tuccy put at the end of each line? Maybe that will clear up some confusion? You guys fly off the handle way too easily based on stats and no actual play experience PS: Darth, you don't actually know that, so stop making it look like you do. Alright, mental exercice.Sell me the Galissonière with 10 seconds of reload over the Budyonni. Sell me a ship that received a STAGGERING 33% nerf in potential DPM. Because that's not a tweak, that's a massive blow of the nerf hammer. There is literally no point in 6" guns if you can just get 8" guns with 2 more seconds of reload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAK3N] Seisset Players 96 posts 9,452 battles Report post #490 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) THIS is interesting... and at the start they mention they got blueprints of BBs and DDs too? and even CVs? just to make you wonder what the next branch could be... mfg Ciao Seisset edit: and dont forget... the speed boost is made to catch upwith destroyers... i loled hard Edited April 5, 2017 by Seisset Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #491 Posted April 5, 2017 Alright, mental exercice.Sell me the Galissonière with 10 seconds of reload over the Budyonni. Sell me a ship that received a STAGGERING 33% nerf in potential DPM. Because that's not a tweak, that's a massive blow of the nerf hammer. There is literally no point in 6" guns if you can just get 8" guns with 2 more seconds of reload. I didn't say anything about the quality of the changes, but the end of line comments on the notes give you an impression of the ships' pre-nerf performance. That's all I can say, and even now I'm dancing on a minefield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] Psychocouac Alpha Tester 390 posts 7,502 battles Report post #492 Posted April 5, 2017 All these changes are [edited]. They ll never listen and i ll never play those shitty ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #493 Posted April 5, 2017 That's all I can say, and even now I'm dancing on a minefield. the downsides of knowing but not being able to talk about what you know Sucks doesn't it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #494 Posted April 5, 2017 I didn't say anything about the quality of the changes, but the end of line comments on the notes give you an impression of the ships' pre-nerf performance. That's all I can say, and even now I'm dancing on a minefield. And I won't push you on the matter out of respect for the ST NDA. But still, we all saw the Galissonière's early gameplay. She was a good ship, but nothing really special. How does that warrant what I repeat is a 33% nerf to dpm? That's unprecedented in the entire history of the game. Unless the notes forgot to mention that the shells triple in krupp value, penetration and accuracy, such a massive nerf is unimaginably severe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #495 Posted April 5, 2017 Come on, Friant is ridiculously OP. Think Tenryuu but with double the firepower. It's just as fast but with more HP. T4 looked fine. T5 needed a nerf, but I don't know about 12 seconds. 9-10 seconds reload seems alright to me. T6 didn't seem to need a RoF nerf. If it was too powerful, just cute the range a bit maybe? The other buffs seems fine. I feel so bad for Ibuki and it's terrible 15 seconds reload now. I thought Henri's gonna get a bigger buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #496 Posted April 5, 2017 The buff fairy visiting Duca.... And French stuff too. https://thedailybounce.net/2017/04/05/world-of-warships-0-6-3-1-changes-more/ 12km torps for T6 is insane. Granted she only has 3 per side but that's the best in the tier now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilDuca Beta Tester 61 posts 3,429 battles Report post #497 Posted April 5, 2017 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #498 Posted April 5, 2017 The buff fairy visiting Duca.... And French stuff too. https://thedailybounce.net/2017/04/05/world-of-warships-0-6-3-1-changes-more/ 12km torps for T6 is insane. Granted she only has 3 per side but that's the best in the tier now. Omg... 12km torps is not a buff, it's a nerf. It will make people shoot useless torps from range which will only endanger their allies in front of them Seriously.. this isn't a buff at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #499 Posted April 5, 2017 The buff fairy visiting Duca.... And French stuff too. https://thedailybounce.net/2017/04/05/world-of-warships-0-6-3-1-changes-more/ 12km torps for T6 is insane. Granted she only has 3 per side but that's the best in the tier now. Plus, if you go full concealment, you have a pretty nice stealth torp capability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #500 Posted April 5, 2017 Wait, they made it so you can have Def AA and Hydro on at the same time? That should be fun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
