Wildf1re Players 203 posts 4,569 battles Report post #1 Posted March 5, 2017 I have played quite a while on the NA server and are now playing on the EU server. Despite numerous battles, it's only now I have found out there is a Karma number representing your reputation as a factor of compliments/report. I am surprised that this number is not much more prominently displayed e.g. in chat besides the nickname and/or the team summery screen (when you press tab). I would think it would be a very good ide to have it much more visible to yourself and other players. It could - in my mind - help to achieve a better community culture in terms of people behaving (better) in chat and in gameplay. As it is it feel like you are complimenting/reporting into a void and certainly the effect of the karma number is limited as a tool to encourage good behavior and a nice community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-S] Kann_Nix_Extreme Players 388 posts 15,432 battles Report post #2 Posted March 5, 2017 Don't think showing total Karma on the scoreboard is very smart ... but displaying the + or - a player accumulated that very match would at least be a reasonable idea 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BSDUK] SelwynSlide Players 14 posts 7,089 battles Report post #3 Posted March 5, 2017 I think that your karma score should give you a credit boost. 1 karma rating = either 0.5% or 1% more credits. Gives the karma number a function and gives people a reason to compliment people who do well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,762 battles Report post #4 Posted March 5, 2017 Don't think showing total Karma on the scoreboard is very smart ... but displaying the + or - a player accumulated that very match would at least be a reasonable idea I don't see how either way would be helpful because the current concept behind karma isn't helpful either. How you usually gain karma: * Playing good (both teams) * Assisting in chat (own team) How you usually lose karma * Playing bad (both teams) * Not playing like you are "supposed to play" (own team) * Misbehavior in chat (own or both teams) * Salty opponents (enemy team) And because of the above there is absolutely no way of knowing what caused player xyz to have a certain karma rating. You could be a decent but super nice and cheerful player who sits on a large heap of karma just because of your politeness or you could be a super-rad unicum player that single-handedly carries 90%+ of your games, however you are also a trash talker and downvoted into oblivion by opponents you just out-played. If I am not totally mistaken we will get a more WoT-like end screen in the near future, e.g. also showing the damage figures of all players, which I do consider more helpful than knowing any karma value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3X] RNGsama Beta Tester 75 posts 17,809 battles Report post #5 Posted March 5, 2017 Fairly certain that high karma players will simply get nuked with reports just for having high karma. The current system of having 7 reports/compliments that can be used at once makes zero sense, if they change that then it might be actually worth having a look. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAG] General_Alexus Players 1,046 posts 13,178 battles Report post #6 Posted March 5, 2017 I think that your karma score should give you a credit boost. 1 karma rating = either 0.5% or 1% more credits. Gives the karma number a function and gives people a reason to compliment people who do well. YES PLS ( last time i chacked my Karma it was something like +117 ) Mostly Play CVs and DDs, is the Quality of CV Players so bad that my Team always gives me Kara for not beeing an AS CV Idiot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #7 Posted March 5, 2017 I think that your karma score should give you a credit boost. 1 karma rating = either 0.5% or 1% more credits. Gives the karma number a function and gives people a reason to compliment people who do well. Not to credits but to free xp, around 280 karma atm, I will even accept 0.5 instead of 1. Also karma is useless, got reported 7 times yesterday just because I said "lol [clan name]" looks like I unleashed it without 5 kills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #8 Posted March 5, 2017 I don't see how either way would be helpful because the current concept behind karma isn't helpful either. How you usually gain lose karma: * Playing good (both teams) * Assisting in chat (own team) How you usually lose karma * Playing bad (both teams) * Not playing like you are "supposed to play" (own team) * Misbehavior in chat (own or both teams) * Salty opponents (enemy team) And because of the above there is absolutely no way of knowing what caused player xyz to have a certain karma rating. You could be a decent but super nice and cheerful player who sits on a large heap of karma just because of your politeness or you could be a super-rad unicum player that single-handedly carries 90%+ of your games, however you are also a trash talker and downvoted into oblivion by opponents you just out-played. If I am not totally mistaken we will get a more WoT-like end screen in the near future, e.g. also showing the damage figures of all players, which I do consider more helpful than knowing any karma value. Corrected it for you. Playing well loses you more Karma than playing badly as people dont bother reporting potatos since they would be at it all day. If you outskill someone the salt is great thou. See my signature ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildf1re Players 203 posts 4,569 battles Report post #9 Posted March 5, 2017 Well, seems not all quite understood what I was aiming at. I am not interested in dmg or if players are playng like an Ace. I am more interested in using Karma for moderating purposes. I am aware that you cannot see details on what has been reported - and I that's okay. However there are a lot of people being extremely rude in chat and/or TK'ing etc. So... since the number is there - why hide it in the profile tab under service record. In my mind it's useless there and maybe, just maybe, it could do a little impact if people knew that the number would be clearly visible to all they played with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #10 Posted March 5, 2017 You do realize thou that stuff like that would be, just like chat reports are at the moment, extremely prone to abuse ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildf1re Players 203 posts 4,569 battles Report post #11 Posted March 5, 2017 You do realize thou that stuff like that would be, just like chat reports are at the moment, extremely prone to abuse ? The mechanism is already in place, I just suggest using it with more visibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #12 Posted March 5, 2017 Corrected it for you. Playing well loses you more Karma than playing badly as people dont bother reporting potatos since they would be at it all day. If you outskill someone the salt is great thou. See my signature ... corvi you must just accept that people dont like you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted March 5, 2017 Displaying Karma to other players would only make sense when this Karma would actually mean anything in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #14 Posted March 5, 2017 I have played quite a while on the NA server and are now playing on the EU server. Despite numerous battles, it's only now I have found out there is a Karma number representing your reputation as a factor of compliments/report. I am surprised that this number is not much more prominently displayed e.g. in chat besides the nickname and/or the team summery screen (when you press tab). I would think it would be a very good ide to have it much more visible to yourself and other players. It could - in my mind - help to achieve a better community culture in terms of people behaving (better) in chat and in gameplay. As it is it feel like you are complimenting/reporting into a void and certainly the effect of the karma number is limited as a tool to encourage good behavior and a nice community. Useless, meaningless, abusable little number, which is only there for venting the frustration, and doesn't lead to any consequences or gains. Should be removed, and if not - hidden as much as possible. I think that your karma score should give you a credit boost. 1 karma rating = either 0.5% or 1% more credits. Gives the karma number a function and gives people a reason to compliment people who do well. No way. People complement very rarely (well, if you entertain in chat instead of playing, you'll get some pluses), most often - according to the design - vent their frustration. Sometimes unloading it on a player who outplayed them (enemy team) or was simply better at the stuff (their team). I don't see how either way would be helpful because the current concept behind karma isn't helpful either. How you usually gain karma: * Playing good (both teams) * Assisting in chat (own team) How you usually lose karma * Playing bad (both teams) * Not playing like you are "supposed to play" (own team) * Misbehavior in chat (own or both teams) * Salty opponents (enemy team) And because of the above there is absolutely no way of knowing what caused player xyz to have a certain karma rating. You could be a decent but super nice and cheerful player who sits on a large heap of karma just because of your politeness or you could be a super-rad unicum player that single-handedly carries 90%+ of your games, however you are also a trash talker and downvoted into oblivion by opponents you just out-played. If I am not totally mistaken we will get a more WoT-like end screen in the near future, e.g. also showing the damage figures of all players, which I do consider more helpful than knowing any karma value. I also tend to report late loaders, afkers, teamkillers and those who don't give a damn about what we do as a team. But again, this is only to vent my frustration. Huge amount of "casual potatos", afkers, or teamkillers is an obvious proof that there are absolutely no consequences of those "reports". Displaying Karma to other players would only make sense when this Karma would actually mean anything in the first place. Exactly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #15 Posted March 5, 2017 They could implement a system where you earn report points each day by using compliments. One report for each compliment. Up to 7 per day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #16 Posted March 5, 2017 The whole karma system is just utter bollocks... WG says: community can't self moderate, so we remove +- from forum and add it to the game itself flamuWG flamuWG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAITO] Tuuletar Players 325 posts 4,917 battles Report post #17 Posted March 5, 2017 Fishermen told me that Corvi has legendary Karma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #18 Posted March 5, 2017 I think that your karma score should give you a credit boost. 1 karma rating = either 0.5% or 1% more credits. Gives the karma number a function and gives people a reason to compliment people who do well. Too easy to abuse...count down clans who get on opposite teams will/do obviously compliment their fellow clan members whatever. Also, begging will be rife. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #19 Posted March 5, 2017 Too easy to abuse...count down clans who get on opposite teams will/do obviously compliment their fellow clan members whatever. Also, begging will be rife. Yep. This. And people will report you if you have high karma. Because reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #20 Posted March 5, 2017 Linking karma to any kind of benefit is one of those silly ideas, like submarines, mines and Kamikaze planes, that just seem to reappear in the forum time and again no matter how well and thoroughly they've been proven silly in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_OPC_] morgoroth Players 454 posts 17,354 battles Report post #21 Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) use your karma to have a good e-wank Edited March 5, 2017 by morgoroth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #22 Posted March 6, 2017 Fishermen told me that Corvi has legendary Karma. I actually had 2 Karma when i started today. Was quite proud. Stopped with 0 and a chatban for today again 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #23 Posted March 6, 2017 I thought there is already a reward system in place regarding Karma. Only on the RU server tho, because obviously we filthy capitalists don't deserve such things. (Just checked and I'm surprised to say that I'm sitting at 357 Karma. Weird considering I nowadays mostly play classes that tend to earn bucketloads of sweet delicious tears) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-S] Kann_Nix_Extreme Players 388 posts 15,432 battles Report post #24 Posted March 6, 2017 (Just checked and I'm surprised to say that I'm sitting at 357 Karma. Weird considering I nowadays mostly play classes that tend to earn bucketloads of sweet delicious tears) I know that feel Sometimes a day worth of progress is ruined by one salty dude though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #25 Posted March 6, 2017 I actually had 2 Karma when i started today. Was quite proud. Stopped with 0 and a chatban for today again I was at 30 or something. Then I played FIVE games, where I had 3x3 ship division being idiots which I told them. Guess how much Karma I had over that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites