Legendary commanders

[Ian_MacAllan]

So, legendary commanders have been announced for 2017, but so far no sign of them ...

 

Do you have some candidates in mind?

- name & nationality

- which ship(s) did he command?

- what was he (in)famous for?

 

How could their abilities be represented in the game?

- increase benefits from certain captain skills (like Steven Seagal with his bonuses to Expert Loader and Expert Marksman)

- improved/additional consumables (e.g., increase active duration, reduce cooldown, additional charge, ...)

- other effects on game mechanics (e.g., increase the chance to cause flooding/damage modules, ...)

- should the abilities be limited to the ship class that he actually commanded?

 

For example, Tameichi Hara was a famous DD commander in the Imperial Japanese Navy who was known for his torpedo skills (and for writing a manual on how to torp). He commanded Amatsukaze (Kagero class DD), Shigure (Shiratsuyu class DD) and Yahagi (Agano  class CL). In game, he should give some boost to the torpedo performance of his ship, e.g.,

- increase benefit from Torpedo Armament expertise for DDs from 10% to 15 (or even 20)%

or

- give his DD the ability to single-launch torpedoes that is currently exclusive to RN cruisers

or

- give his DD (Shiratsuyu or Akizuki are not affected) the Torpedo Reload Booster consumable in addition to Smoke consumable (the 30s Kagero/Yugumo version!), with 1 charge

 

Looking forward to your ideas!

[eliastion]

Many of the propositions here share a problematic trait: they affect balance. SS gives a mild bonus to two skills (only one of them useful) but with more commanders we risk getting ones that will significantly affect ship performance. I'd really prefer these special captains to be special due to

a) ability to captain many ships without retraining

b) preferential XP accumulation

[Nechrom]

Many of the propositions here share a problematic trait: they affect balance. SS gives a mild bonus to two skills (only one of them useful) but with more commanders we risk getting ones that will significantly affect ship performance. I'd really prefer these special captains to be special due to

a) ability to captain many ships without retraining

b) preferential XP accumulation

 

Pretty much this.

 

Maybe give them the ability to captain a certain ship class of a certain nation, based on who the captain is.

As for other bonuses I think they should be restricted to convenience ones, like more XP, more credits etc. Which don't effect performance in battles.

 

While we already have premium or otherwise restricted content which is arguably better than the free content (Atago, Belfast, MK etc), adding captains with similar bonuses could stack with the already powerful ships, making the problem even worse.

[El2aZeR]

If Mr. Seagal is any indication unique commanders will only receive a slight boost in the stats of 2 skills. Currently he has:

- Expert Loader (-75% instead of -50%)

- Expert Marksman (+3/1 degrees instead of +2.5/0.7)

This technically makes him a BB specialized captain.

 

Example going by this template:

Isoroku Yamamoto (this guy is bound to show up someday):

- Aircraft Servicing Expert (+6% HP & -12% service time instead of +5% & -10%)

- Torpedo Armament Expertise (-23% torp bomber service time instead of -20%)

 

So unless WG goes completely overboard with the numbers and leaves some skills as they are (basically all 4th row skills & Superintendent shouldn't be touched for example) I don't see too much impact on balance.

[Ragweek]

 

 

Example going by this template:

Isoroku Yamamoto (this guy is bound to show up someday):

- Aircraft Servicing Expert (+6% HP & -12% service time instead of +5% & -10%)

- Torpedo Armament Expertise (-23% torp bomber service time instead of -20%)

 

Mr SS, =Meh. no boosted #DPS or very situational. 

 

Now your example of "Isoroku Yamamoto"   WOW I want him for my cv's. I feel that would boost my DPS and be worth the free captains ex to get him trained up.

[Lin3]

Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner for getting four heavy cruisers sunk in 32 minutes. That's a World of Warships potato player level of incompetence.

http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/wwii/the-worst-leaders-in-history-admiral-richmond-kelly-turner/

[Cosseria]

I want Raizo Tanaka for my IJN cruisers, Arleigh Burke for US DDs, Mack and Warburton Lee for RN, Mimbelli and Cigala Fulgosi for RM.

[Verdius]

Gunichi Mikawa (of Savo Island fame where he bludgeoned an allied taskforce while commanding from the Takao class heavy cruiser Choukai), Takeo Takagi (of Java Sea fame), Raizo Tanaka. Tameichi Hara and of course Heihachiro Togo (Mikasa is in the game so I don't see why not, especially with a legendary reputation like the 'Nelson of the East') and Yamamoto to cover cruiser, destroyer, battleship and cv. Still there are quite a few other possibilities.

Halsey comes to mind for the US for CV. Overal there are quite a few to choose from. Even more so with the UK with it's involvement in both world wars.

For Germany perhaps we could get Scheer for battleships but we should definitly get von Müller to go with the SMS Emden.

Italians? Bergamini? I am honestly not too familiar with Italian naval commanders of WW1 and 2.

France I don't know either.

China 'Pan-Asia' Doesn't have any to speak of.

 

I am mostly wondering who they will find for the USSR/Russia because this is WoWs so they will bring one.

Minor XP or credit bonuses are enough for me though. Or they'd have to balance them in a very specific way (which I don't trust WG to get right for a load of commanders). What I don't want them to do is introduce an unfair gameplay advantage that is locked behind something exclusive.

[Juanx]

You guys are thinking in realistic terms, remember its the seagull what we got...

As far as we know, it may well be Jean Reno for the FR navy, or (LOL) Hugh Grant for UK(altho Id have Jeremy Clarkson in a heartbeat).

[Spellfire40]

If Mr. Seagal is any indication unique commanders will only receive a slight boost in the stats of 2 skills. Currently he has:

- Expert Loader (-75% instead of -50%)

- Expert Marksman (+3/1 degrees instead of +2.5/0.7)

This technically makes him a BB specialized captain.

 

Example going by this template:

Isoroku Yamamoto (this guy is bound to show up someday):

- Aircraft Servicing Expert (+6% HP & -12% service time instead of +5% & -10%)

- Torpedo Armament Expertise (-23% torp bomber service time instead of -20%)

 

So unless WG goes completely overboard with the numbers and leaves some skills as they are (basically all 4th row skills & Superintendent shouldn't be touched for example) I don't see too much impact on balance.

 

​Yamamoto was a geralist not a CV comander on top of being comander in Chief of the IJN Navy making him a poor pic for a legendary comander. Chūichi Nagumo would be a better example even thogh he was a fleet comander not a single ship comander.(funny thogh he was a Destroyer/cruiser comander before the war ,-)) Aviation wasnt seen as very prestisios) Hara makes a good legendary comander because while he did was a destoyer Division comander he did pulled off a lots of he exploits while comanding only a sigle ship. question before adding stats would be what makes a Legendary comander? Comand of a single ship Task, force or etire  Navy?

[robihr]

 

So unless WG goes completely overboard with the numbers and leaves some skills as they are (basically all 4th row skills & Superintendent shouldn't be touched for example) I don't see too much impact on balance.

 

AR 0.3% per 1% lost

[Hedgehog1963]

I hope they go back further than just the 20th Century.  Royal Navy had a higher Horatio ratio.

[Philipp_ab_exterminatore]

Would be nice to be able to have 1 of the captains as yourself. Pay a set amount of gold upload your own pic, choose your name and then choose 1 perk which will be increased and possibly give this  commander 20 skill points but make him only trainable once to 1 ship

[El2aZeR]

Yamamoto was a geralist not a CV comander on top of being comander in Chief of the IJN Navy making him a poor pic for a legendary comander.

 

He did study and promote naval aviation. He also commanded Akagi early in his career.

 

Anyway, it's just an example. I simply chose a name everyone would (hopefully) recognize.

[Unintentional_submarine]

You guys are thinking in realistic terms, remember its the seagull what we got...

As far as we know, it may well be Jean Reno for the FR navy, or (LOL) Hugh Grant for UK(altho Id have Jeremy Clarkson in a heartbeat).

 

Everyone knows the French will get Gerard Depardieu. Pfft.

Jokes aside, he is actually a possibility, given the similarities with the Seagull's situation. I mean, who didn't facepalm just a little when we heard about Steven Seagal? Can't have the French have something better, and they are both friends of Putin.

[SchuetzeM]

How about Felix Graf von Luckner for KM?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_von_Luckner

Albeit not the most successful captain, he grew quite popular in WWI and later on.

He could improve traits for concealment since he was a raider's captain and Jack of all Trades as a master of improvising on his trip home, or alternatively improve last stand (how?) to make him less powerful for German BB.

[Spuggy]

Gentlemen.... There is only one legendary commander we should be looking forward to.

 

 

 

 

Dasha Perova!

[Verdius]

You guys are thinking in realistic terms, remember its the seagull what we got...

As far as we know, it may well be Jean Reno for the FR navy, or (LOL) Hugh Grant for UK(altho Id have Jeremy Clarkson in a heartbeat).

 

I don't know. It seems rather unlikely to me that WG is going to go out of its way to hire expensive celebrities on a larger scale. Considering the quality of performance we've seen from Seagal it will likely be underwhelming eitherway. I mean they have an excuse for Nick Cage but if he sounds as bored as Steven they might as well not bother.

 

Historic commanders in a game about (largely) historic ships seems a rather logical step, especially when you call them 'legendary commanders'.

[Blitzkrieguk]

You guys are thinking in realistic terms, remember its the seagull what we got...

As far as we know, it may well be Jean Reno for the FR navy, or (LOL) Hugh Grant for UK(altho Id have Jeremy Clarkson in a heartbeat).

 

Rather have Brian Blessed.

[cherry2blost]

Gentlemen.... There is only one legendary commander we should be looking forward to.

 

 

 

 

Dasha Perova!

 

Agreed on every level !

 

[Synth_FG]

Off the top of my head

RN 

WWI

Jellicoe

Beatty

Tyrwhitt, 

Sturdee

Evan-Thomas

 

WWII

Fraiser

Cunningham

Somerville

Harwood

Vian

Tovey

 

[SteDorff]

Agreed on Dasha wasn't there a Japanese voice actress that the Asia server got as person picture (not anime) ? Have to look it up though it will be somewhere on page 101 or so there.

[SteDorff]

Aaand here it is Kirishima humanoid form 10 pt.capt so its somewhere in the client right?

 

[eliastion]

"Humanoid form" means just "not bear" since there are two distinct Kirishimas (the girl and the teddy bear). Both are still from anime, nothing to do with voice actress (apart from her voice, that is - all ARP captains have their voiceovers).

[SteDorff]

Oww that is too bad well only Dahsa then....