Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #1 Posted February 27, 2017 So, I get salty, it happens. I try to make it as infrequent as possible always looking to focus on my own mistakes and what I did wrong. However, sometimes I haven't the knowledge or skill to know what I did wrong and sometimes it's just bad luck. So this is my thread to help sort the bad luck, from the you screwed up all the while taking pity on my salty self. Today I'm salty about detonation. We all know it's frustrating and I have empirical data that shows I get detonated way more than I get detonations. Probably because I'm a dd/cc player. (just another thorn for us to bare). I don't use the flags because I need them for rank, and I have had the rare pleasure of blowing up using one anyway, in combination with fire and torp flags. Now love it or hate it I think there is one thing we can all agree on when it comes to detonations. When you get detonated twice in 1 day, I think you should get the flag reward twice or as many times you get detonated, you clearly need them at that stage surely? Just to add to my salt the next match I got insta killed by a T10 CV in my mogami, anybody know how to deal with T10 torp strikes in a t8 cc? I've never felt more helpless in this game, dieing in less than 2 minutes without even seeing a ship. Any help and of course your own salty tales are appreciated along with constructive feed back. (Any "git guds" or alike will receive a stern frown from me o7) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #2 Posted February 27, 2017 Free-to-play games require a certain frustration quotient as part of their design. It's got to do with addictive behaviour and payment incentives. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,043 battles Report post #3 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Some days you're the detonated, some days you're the detonator. The first one sucks but the other just makes you laugh until you feel sorry for the invisible player swearing at his screen of bubbling foam. I have to apologise (again) to the Budyony detonated by my Isokaze on Saturday night. I felt a wee bit dirty for laughing. Edited February 28, 2017 by DB2212 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajb13 Beta Tester 663 posts 12,465 battles Report post #4 Posted February 27, 2017 It's a known fact that over 90% of the worlds salt is produced by BB players after they get sunk by something that's not a fellow 'invincible'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #5 Posted February 27, 2017 I hope you aren't accusing me of BB salt, mine is pure bread DD and CC salt, noble and pure. That said I just got deleted in my scharnhorst by a T9 CV. I wouldn't be salty but I got a suicide spawn out on my own with no cover. It wasn't even a minutes work for him . Honestly I can't remember the last time I survived a top tier CV attack.Up at T9 and T10 there seems to be know escape unless you're covered on both sides by AA ccs, which are bloody rare nowadays and can't really roll with a fleet without being BB deleted. Any tips on CV evasion? Oh and I really hate being spotted by a plane I can't see. How are you ment to respond to that? Turn and hope you pick the right direction? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajb13 Beta Tester 663 posts 12,465 battles Report post #6 Posted February 27, 2017 I hope you aren't accusing me of BB salt, mine is pure bread DD and CC salt, noble and pure. About 1% is produced by other ship classes, and the remaining 9% comes from the earth's own natural resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #7 Posted February 28, 2017 I hope you aren't accusing me of BB salt, mine is pure bread DD and CC salt, noble and pure. Pure one is not good for you. Lack of minerals. Best one is Himalayan - pink all the way! Best way to avoid CVs is just to play another game. CV population is so low you have to be lucky (or unlucky) to have one at this tier (at least at the moment). And if you happen to come across one, ask cruiser to escort you. Or play AA heavy battleship, this might discourage CV. Or not... I've noticed, if they loose squadron of torp bombers, they often either take it personally or as a challenge... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #8 Posted February 28, 2017 Free-to-play games require a certain frustration quotient as part of their design. It's got to do with addictive behaviour and payment incentives. Where is my option to buy anti detonation signals them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,043 battles Report post #9 Posted February 28, 2017 Where is my option to buy anti detonation signals them? Get detonated, get 10 free... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red_eye1980 Players 387 posts 3,102 battles Report post #10 Posted February 28, 2017 My NC has AA rating of 100. Yes I am not immune to CVs but always make them pay for it. Especially at the start of the battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeTaLMooSe Players 688 posts 5,902 battles Report post #11 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) I've been needing to take isotonic drinks lately to replace my lost minerals from the torrent of salty tears streaming down my cheeks. Circumstances dictate that I get to play in the after school hours lately and what a rollercoaster it is. One match your team will be face rolling their keyboard and making gurgling sounds from the mouth breathing and the next will be a pretty tight friendly team. Tis frustrating and I have broken protocol and had the odd outburst. If I can end on a good battle before my wife starts dragging me by the ear I'm not too grumpy. Happily a recent avalanche of a loosing streak is on the up. 'xgvsawzqg vfhbbbbbbbbbbbbb' I knew it! That's a bonafide faceroll and it's EXACTLY the same as some team chat and in game names!!!! Edited February 28, 2017 by MeTaLMooSe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #12 Posted February 28, 2017 My favorite new salt mine, people that split the party in ranked. So the match starts and you pick a point to fight over, together right there in chat, you can see the big capital A or B right there. You start the fight, commit hard to win then your BBs at the back split off and decide to go get the free cap for the exp in the hopes of keeping their star instead of winning. Half the team that committed to the plan die and the match is lost. I get that you can't have perfect cooperation with strangers and probably a lot of people that speak different languages but THE rule of ranked is stick together isn't it? I'm glad this game is still in beta, at least technically. There is some work to do :S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted February 28, 2017 Some days you're the detonated, some days you're the detonatee. The first one sucks but the other just makes you laugh until you feel sorry for the invisible player swearing at his screen of bubbling foam. I have to apologise (again) to the Budyony detonated by my Isokaze on Saturday night. I felt a wee bit dirty for laughing. But.. isn't the detonatee the one that gets detonated? This still seems a bit one-sided to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,043 battles Report post #14 Posted February 28, 2017 But.. isn't the detonatee the one that gets detonated? This still seems a bit one-sided to me. Meh, you're right. I'll edit it to detonator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lin3 Players 746 posts Report post #15 Posted February 28, 2017 The Baltic Sea is less salty than the Pacific Ocean. The northern Baltic is so fresh, you could drink it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Sea#Salinity Russian bias strikes again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Live85 Weekend Tester 453 posts Report post #16 Posted March 1, 2017 There there. I've got something that might make you feel better: It's from a couple of months ago. I detonated with HE splash damage from a fellow cruiser. 0 Hits received for a grand total of 32600 damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumledunk Players 37 posts 6,572 battles Report post #17 Posted March 1, 2017 Consider picking the 70% less detonations upgrade. Maybe it's not the most optimal as you will miss out on some damage and whatnot as your guns and torpedo tubes get knocked out a little more often, but since detonations are infuriating BS it's worth it. I've not been detonated for a couple of months now after I changed to it. The flags are meaningless as you'll never have enough and getting detonated in tier 4 is just as annoying as in tier 9. Anyone who tells someone they should have used a detonation flag in chat in randoms gets a "misbehaviour in chat" report from me, as it's just being a giant jerk and kicking a guy when he's down at no fault of his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #18 Posted March 13, 2017 And I return dragging another load of salt from the mines. Thanks to the weekend exp buff I manage to get both the NC and the New Orleans. I have lost 4 straight matches in both, kitting them out with all my flags and everything. All but one of the matches I was bottom tier. The one I was top tier in was in the New Orleans, and my team did 1 of 2 things for the first 8 minutes of the match, sit still or turn around and run away from the caps. I don't mind being bottom tier, what I mind is the bad teams that seem to come with them, I play a support role in a bottom tier game, how can I do that with a team that doesn't play the game, sitting behind islands and running before they even see a cap. There are very few circumstances where a New Orleans should go first, but I seem to be there all the time as if my team takes the funny big step backwards. The other sting in the tail is consumables, flags and camo etc. I would like a refund on those when I get dumped into Ocean against Yamatos when I have 14km range and nowhere to hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #19 Posted March 13, 2017 And I return dragging another load of salt from the mines. Thanks to the weekend exp buff I manage to get both the NC and the New Orleans. I have lost 4 straight matches in both, kitting them out with all my flags and everything. All but one of the matches I was bottom tier. The one I was top tier in was in the New Orleans, and my team did 1 of 2 things for the first 8 minutes of the match, sit still or turn around and run away from the caps. I don't mind being bottom tier, what I mind is the bad teams that seem to come with them, I play a support role in a bottom tier game, how can I do that with a team that doesn't play the game, sitting behind islands and running before they even see a cap. There are very few circumstances where a New Orleans should go first, but I seem to be there all the time as if my team takes the funny big step backwards. The other sting in the tail is consumables, flags and camo etc. I would like a refund on those when I get dumped into Ocean against Yamatos when I have 14km range and nowhere to hide. Yeah, cause the New orleans is just trash. it's even worse in a cyclone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted March 13, 2017 Yeah, cause the New orleans is just trash. it's even worse in a cyclone It was a 'fun' experience to go from Pepsi to NO, thankfully I don't have New Ordeals any more.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajb13 Beta Tester 663 posts 12,465 battles Report post #21 Posted March 13, 2017 ......or turn around and run away from the caps. Don't you know that caps are dangerous? People have been even known to shoot at people in them. Who in their right mind would want to go to such a place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #22 Posted March 13, 2017 Not sure if you are joking or not in about the new orleans? I'm still trying to figure her out I guess. I liked the pensa in the end, not the worst stats. Needless to say not having the same luck in the T 8 version. I just had a game in my belfast to try and cheer me up, we had a ranger with a 26% win rate in CVS, guess how that match went lol. 62.79% 47,774 1,707 1.3 1.0 1.0 26% 34% 0% 1,542 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TNG] TheCoolBird Players 136 posts 2,171 battles Report post #23 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) This morning I was detonated, or deleted from just under half my hp in a few seconds twice in a row. After that I just took a break, but at least now I have a few more flags. It sucks, but it happens. Was even worse for me since I wasn't able to do damage before I died. I take it as I've been doing too well for once and needed a knock down. It's a sign to play more battleships possibly. Hard not to expect it playing tier 5 though, just a lot of pain from tier 7 ships. But, more flags for me. I've just had bad luck for a few days, I hope it passes soon. Edited March 13, 2017 by TheCoolBird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOP] zuadao Beta Tester 51 posts 2,844 battles Report post #24 Posted March 13, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #25 Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Where is my option to buy anti detonation signals them? An excellent point — one I've considered raising in a number of posts, though I've tended to avoid discussions of detonations. EU is the only server where particular signals can't be bought on their own afaik; the exact basis for this practice remains a mystery. I can imagine that EU management finds this frustration element is beneficial to their sales or player participation figures, or at least unharmful to the way they prefer to sell things (as bundles) based on EU buying habits. Personally, and I guess this also goes for yourself and a lot of other forumites, I would've bought detonation signals because I simply hate detonations that much, and it would free up my first module slots for something other than magazine on literally every ship... not that I can still bear to play the game, sadly. Edited March 13, 2017 by StringWitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites