VERY BIG PROBLEM WITH CV PLAY/DIVISIONS.

[Doo0ooM]

 

The following behaviour was just observed by me personally (in a tier x game):

1. Carrier teams up with battleships, presumably anti air configured battleships.

2. The carrier player completely refuses to spot the enemy carrier, even though an entire fleet is within range to shoot at it.

This is plane farming.

The result was a loss, the entire team was killed by enemy cv and ships and such.

As well as my battleship got struck 6 times.

Look into it and come up with a solution, super annoying behaviour !!!!!

I watched replay, no clear evidence of battleship aa builds.

Carrier claimed that enemy russian dd has super aa, I have seen videos of that, however enemy tier x japanese cv is probably easily spotteable from a safe distance.

It was weird... Seen many carrier players that don't make an effort to spot enemy cvs even though when battleships are near. Could just be noobish... Though it's own team was there.

Enemy smoke was deployed, however plane can easily navigate around that...

I find this case very suspicious none the less, a tier x cv player should no better than not to spot an enemy cv, when at least 3 friendly battleships are near it !

Very strange !

If evidence is found for this than implement option to "Ban divisions" from random games, so that players can play "Division-free" random games ;)

Doesn't completely rule it out, but it's a start ;)

(normally I would be happy if cv attacks my bb thanks to aa captain, however this time I did not have aa captain, so it was very annoying, partly maybe me to blame for not sailing to fleet for aa cover, didn't even realize a cv was in the game :p* this did show how annoying it is though.)

 

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[Webley_Mark]

What's about you start by posting something nice... Without caps. Maybe, people will come for help... Instead of trolling for what's look like another whine...

 

In other news... Water is wet.

[Doo0ooM]

NICE

 

NOW FO

[mtm78]

If evidence is found for this than implement option to "ban divisions" from random games, so that players can play "division-free" random games ;)

 

 

NICE

 

NOW FO

 

 

ps. post with your real account not your troll account next time  or was it banned again?

[FireRM]

SkyBuckFlying, I was in that game of yours last night, I am not sure you have a real reason to argue with your CV about this. I was in the Hinden, and the Soviet DD being sailed by another Supertester were probably enough deterrence for your CV to come anywhere closer to our CV. Plus, I am sure he was fighting another battle somewhere else on the map. So ok, the CV didn't do what you asked him to do, so what? It is not the first time, and I guarantee you it will not be the last, that someone on your team does not play the game the way you want them to.

 

 

[SV_Kompresor]

STOP TROLLING YOU'RE ANNOYING

[RobS80]

Skyfailflying thinks he is some kind of CV genius. Sadly this is not the case. 

 

Seeing your in game 'suggestions' first hand, I would also have told you no.

 

If 3 BBs are daft enough to chase a CV around the map, die and force a loss then that is their stupidity. 

[Doo0ooM]

SkyBuckFlying, I was in that game of yours last night, I am not sure you have a real reason to argue with your CV about this. I was in the Hinden, and the Soviet DD being sailed by another Supertester were probably enough deterrence for your CV to come anywhere closer to our CV. Plus, I am sure he was fighting another battle somewhere else on the map. So ok, the CV didn't do what you asked him to do, so what? It is not the first time, and I guarantee you it will not be the last, that someone on your team does not play the game the way you want them to.

 

 

 

I could post a screenshot and I am pretty sure 99.9% of the players would feel the rage as well.

[FireRM]

Sure man, you can try and see what people say. But like I said, you cannot get everyone to play the way you want them to. Whether that objectively makes tactical sense or not. I suggest you just relax, accept it as a fact and carry on.

 

[Doo0ooM]

Sure man, you can try and see what people say. But like I said, you cannot get everyone to play the way you want them to. Whether that objectively makes tactical sense or not. I suggest you just relax, accept it as a fact and carry on.

 

 

You were in the other team, you didn't looze bro !

 

Time to post some screenshots.

 

Part 1: 3 enemy torpedo squads about to strike my NC with devastating effect cause I was not playing with AA captain, notice how CV on my team does not even have fighters up in the sky:

 

 

Part 2: With devastating effect (and later he finished me off with again new torpedoes, cv on my team did kill dive bombers though), let this be a testimony of the power of carriers which you see to be completely denieing. Oh is because you happen to be piloting a hindenburg ?! LOL:

 

 

Part 3: Easy for you to say, in your hindenburg, best AA ship in the game:

 

 

Part 4: At least 7 maybe even 8 of our ships were in range to shoot at the enemy carrier, yet our CV does nothing to spot him ?! WHY ?! What is concealment range of enemy japanese CV ?! What is AA range of new russian DD ?! Surely he can safely spot it from a distance ?!

 

 

The weird thing was, the CV on my team did eventually try to spot him but was unable too... why ? CV hidden by smoke ? Super concealment ? Bug in game ?! I found watching the replay quiet weird... seems like the enemy cv popped up at a different location, or he was really fast... or could be a bug in the game with the display of carriers on minimap... there was indeed a bug in the game showing position of enemy carriers at the start of the game... however I was under the impression that in this game he was briefly spotted, so doesn't really seem like a bug.

 

[RobS80]

Screenshot 1 shows you out of position and well away from any friendly AA support. As a strike Ranger player you should know that friendly team players cannot rely on a CV for AA support. 

 

In a tier 10 heavy game, sailing a tier 8 BB well away from the fleet was calling out to the enemy CV to feast upon you. 

[Porpoisee]

Ban CVs because they do not spot, ban BBs because they camp, ban CAs because they cannot kill a DD at close range and ban DDs because they do not cap....

 

or

 

Is this just a rant about having a bad CV in your team?

[Doo0ooM]

Screenshot 1 shows you out of position and well away from any friendly AA support. As a strike Ranger player you should know that friendly team players cannot rely on a CV for AA support. 

 

In a tier 10 heavy game, sailing a tier 8 BB well away from the fleet was calling out to the enemy CV to feast upon you. 

 

 
They all died you Edited. mtf-er. Stop making it seem like their tactic worked, it didnt.
 
Also stop making it about me.
 
I wanted some revenge on that fokking cv.
 
I totally not care about this game.  I do care about very Edited cv behaviour unless you have a very good technical/tactical reason for not spotting cv. So far I have heard nothing that makes any sense at all !!!!!!!!!
 
Carrier did fight off the next 3 dive bombers, why he not spot the enemy cv to take it down immediately... He saw how much damage it did to me ? ;)
 
Hopefully he learns from this game ;) :p
 
Or is part of a farming cooperation ! Lol :p
 
As far as I am concerned my position was better than my entire fleet, somehow they alllll fokking died.... Was torps ? Was it planes ? Who knows.
 
At least my death was something I completely did not have in hand.... Only aa captains can stop planes... Or staying with the fleet, then I be dead as well. So doesn't matter.
 
Are you starting to see that it doesnt matter if I am at fleet or not ?!
 
How about if that destroyers Edited them all voer... I dont know what happened I only know what didnt happen and that is spot the most powerfull fokking ship in the Edited.

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[mtm78]

 

 
They all died you Edited. mtf-er. Stop making it seem like their tactic worked, it didnt.
 
Also stop making it about me.
 
I wanted some revenge on that fokking cv.
 
I totally not care about this game.  I do care about very Edited cv behaviour unless you have a very good technical/tactical reason for not spotting cv. So far I have heard nothing that makes any sense at all !!!!!!!!!
 
Carrier did fight off the next 3 dive bombers, why he not spot the enemy cv to take it down immediately... He saw how much damage it did to me ? ;)
 
Hopefully he learns from this game ;) :p
 
Or is part of a farming cooperation ! Lol :p
 
As far as I am concerned my position was better than my entire fleet, somehow they alllll fokking died.... Was torps ? Was it planes ? Who knows.
 
At least my death was something I completely did not have in hand.... Only aa captains can stop planes... Or staying with the fleet, then I be dead as well. So doesn't matter.
 
Are you starting to see that it doesnt matter if I am at fleet or not ?!
 
How about if that destroyers Edited them all voer... I dont know what happened I only know what didnt happen and that is spot the most powerfull fokking ship in the Edited.
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[Redcap375]

Lol. I recognise the fellow CV player and his div mates because their in the same Clan as me, the mighty Company gamers  

 

All three are very good players that believe it nor not...Work extremely well as a team

 

i know its blindly obvious to most but see how both the supporting BBs are completely AA kitted out? With a Missouri too no less?? Hopefully that should have been a bit of a give-away for your CV player.  It would be the first thing i would have noticed being the enemy CV captain.  The CV captain in question is a tough sole who plays a certain way (that would be telling ). Only a good CV player will have a chance against this chap, and he probably fell pray to him like others apparently do.

 

Regardless of ANY of the above.....You was caught on your own, in a tier 8 BB, without being AA kitted out on a very good AA ship? What was you expecting to happen lad? With Tier 10 torp planes no less!  You made a bad mistake so take it like a man and learn from it.  Do you realise how hard it is to spot a tier 10 enemy CV with all the aa knocking about at that leavel (in a IJN CV too).  A tier where nearly EVERYONE sticks together at some point and camping is more visible.

 

Your CV might have let you down to some extent, but we cant be everywhere at once. Controlling 9 groups at once can be a hand-full. 

 

WOW, just looking at the first screen shot of the mini map what was your team doing? All 4 caps being taken over (nearly) whilst your DDs are mincing around? sounds like a fun game 

[Doo0ooM]

Ok you have some fair points, with the hinderburg support and the new russian DD support, will reconsider my view on this ! ;)

[Spellfire40]

You know that thare are reson for CV to Play together with a BB that dont includes the BB playing AA cover?

For example the enmy BB is coming bow on The CV atacks what does he do? evade the Cv atack and get a nice big AP salvo in his now unagled broudside?

And why in the 1st place has your sides CV protect you? Have you tryed to stay near a friendly ship?  Most Group of 2 non DDs make airatacks a costly Thing with Little return.

[RobS80]

 

 
They all died you Edited. mtf-er. Stop making it seem like their tactic worked, it didnt.
 
Also stop making it about me.
 
I wanted some revenge on that fokking cv.
 
I totally not care about this game.  I do care about very Edited cv behaviour unless you have a very good technical/tactical reason for not spotting cv. So far I have heard nothing that makes any sense at all !!!!!!!!!
 
Carrier did fight off the next 3 dive bombers, why he not spot the enemy cv to take it down immediately... He saw how much damage it did to me ? ;)
 
Hopefully he learns from this game ;) :p
 
Or is part of a farming cooperation ! Lol :p
 
As far as I am concerned my position was better than my entire fleet, somehow they alllll fokking died.... Was torps ? Was it planes ? Who knows.
 
At least my death was something I completely did not have in hand.... Only aa captains can stop planes... Or staying with the fleet, then I be dead as well. So doesn't matter.
 
Are you starting to see that it doesnt matter if I am at fleet or not ?!
 
How about if that destroyers Edited them all voer... I dont know what happened I only know what didnt happen and that is spot the most powerfull fokking ship in the Edited.

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Actually lolled at that garbage!

 

Also the mods editing heavy capitalization. The memes!

 

Yes its about you, cos you complained that a tier 10 CV killed you when you are miles from friendly AA support. But you don't believe friendly AA support is important. Typical Skytripeflying. 

[Alphaburner]

3 enemy torpedo squads about to strike my NC with devastating effect cause I was not playing with AA captain, notice how CV on my team does not even have fighters up in the sky:

Easy for you to say, in your hindenburg, best AA ship in the game

 

[TomBombardil]

THIS IS PLANE FARMING.

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Carrier claimed that enemy russian DD has super AA, I have seen videos of that, however enemy tier X japanese CV is probably easily spotteable from a safe distance.

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(Normally I would be happy if CV attacks my BB thanks to AA captain, however this time I did not have AA captain, so it was very annoying, partly maybe me to blame for not sailing to fleet for AA cover, didn't even realize a CV was in the game * this did show how annoying it is though.)

 

Your team got killed by a enemy PLANES, and you Blame your CV for PLANES faming? w8, what?

You blame allied CV for not doing what YOU want him to do? w8 What? 

No matter what the cost/other tasks a player (cv) has? w8 what?

and your arguments include "probably"! but dont believe cv's "Claim"? w8 WHAT,

"Testomonie of power of CVs"! w8 What? your cv did squad but somehow CVs are op, player skill disregarded.

 

your truth is the only truth, but that doesnt count for others? even if there are contradiction in YOUR truth?

Or relalizeing that anyones, even your own reasoning/wisdom/knolage might be flauwd and or lacking!

 

Blaming someone els for BEING someone els. (You dont do what i want, or have my values)

 

Welcom to the relization that a good CV player matters. What have you been spoiled with the poor power of the strike planes (aka, masive AA & scatter) that it took you an "Extrodanary" TIER X game to realize this. That it took this long, is astounding (but not unexpected). Atleast now you are enlightend.

 

I thing:

The detail of allied player (Cv) not doing what YOU wanted him to do, sould never be an issue. it was his choise! 

and was far from the isseus in this (particular) game.

• Outskilled! Outclassed! Out teamed!
• player(s) who need captain abilty to not be threatend by strike planes? (even in a NC?)
• low tier vs high tier?
• Atleast 1 selfcenterd player (you), probably more (not the cv, he gave a argument, so he atleast lissend and disagreed)
• Clumping, backlineing and hiding.
• Targeting prioraties?

 

nice effort of blaming someone els though. 

 

 

[TomBombardil]

3 enemy torpedo squads about to strike my NC with devastating effect cause I was not playing with AA captain, notice how CV on my team does not even have fighters up in the sky:

Easy for you to say, in your hindenburg, best AA ship in the game

 

 

Powerfull ehy, that SOLO BBs AA, Not even accounting for its 2x full dispertion from Fighter Scouts.

Even this kind of skilled/knolageble player is not afraid of 2 TIERs HIGHER strike planes.

 

Only when he doesnt have the right setup he is suprised that cv do burst damage.

But not even enoufh to finish a 2 tiers lower solo bb quickly.

 

Can we have a fix for this wargaming?

They are now boosting how powerfull there ship&Aa is vs (CV's). Can the first cv Buff (comparde to other classes) be in the making?

[Doo0ooM]

 

Your team got killed by a enemy PLANES, and you Blame your CV for PLANES faming? w8, what?

You blame allied CV for not doing what YOU want him to do? w8 What? 

No matter what the cost/other tasks a player (cv) has? w8 what?

and your arguments include "probably"! but dont believe cv's "Claim"? w8 WHAT,

"Testomonie of power of CVs"! w8 What? your cv did squad but somehow CVs are op, player skill disregarded.

 

your truth is the only truth, but that doesnt count for others? even if there are contradiction in YOUR truth?

Or relalizeing that anyones, even your own reasoning/wisdom/knolage might be flauwd and or lacking!

 

Blaming someone els for BEING someone els. (You dont do what i want, or have my values)

 

Welcom to the relization that a good CV player matters. What have you been spoiled with the poor power of the strike planes (aka, masive AA & scatter) that it took you an "Extrodanary" TIER X game to realize this. That it took this long, is astounding (but not unexpected). Atleast now you are enlightend.

 

I thing:

The detail of allied player (Cv) not doing what YOU wanted him to do, sould never be an issue. it was his choise! 

and was far from the isseus in this (particular) game.

• Outskilled! Outclassed! Out teamed!
• player(s) who need captain abilty to not be threatend by strike planes? (even in a NC?)
• low tier vs high tier?
• Atleast 1 selfcenterd player (you), probably more (not the cv, he gave a argument, so he atleast lissend and disagreed)
• Clumping, backlineing and hiding.
• Targeting prioraties?

 

nice effort of blaming someone els though. 

 

 

 

You really this clueless ?

 

Plane farming = Play in division with CV, so there is always an enemy CV, then use battleships to shoot down enemy CV planes. DUH

 

You really think CV has time to argue with me ? Ofcourse not. (Oh he actually DID ! LOL, NOOB ! )

 

It was probably another player doing this and I will check replay just for this, cause CV player should never argue with a player, however it would have been nice if he had given an explanation.

 

Most of the argueing started after I was ofcourse DEAD by the CV which striked again.

 

And by the way, I saved that CV's life, if it wasn't for me the enemy CV would have definetly strike him instead.

 

This is clearly a team which did nothing to watch his flank ! HAHA ! I do understand that, that's why I was there ! I spotted that crap, nobody else, not even the CV ;)

[El2aZeR]

It was probably another player doing this and I will check replay just for this, cause CV player should never argue with a player, however it would have been nice if he had given an explanation

 

Funny, I trash talk plenty when playing CV and I seem to do pretty well.

[RobS80]

 

Cause CV player should never argue with a player.

 

And by the way, I saved that CV's life, if it wasn't for me the enemy CV would have definetly strike him instead.

 

Utter comedy gold. 

[TomBombardil]

 

1. Plane farming = Play in division with CV, so there is always an enemy CV, then use battleships to shoot down enemy CV planes. DUH
2. You really think CV has time to argue with me ? Ofcourse not. (Oh he actually DID ! LOL, NOOB ! )
3. cause CV player should never argue with a player,
   1. however it would have been nice if he had given an explanation.
   2. Most of the argueing started after I was ofcourse DEAD by the CV which striked again.
4. And by the way, I saved that CV's life, if it wasn't for me the enemy CV would have definetly strike him instead.
5. This is clearly a team which did nothing to watch his flank ! HAHA ! I do understand that, that's why I was there ! I spotted that crap, nobody else, not even the CV ;)

 

1.why divison with BBs if this is your DIVISONS (cv gets the blame) goal is to meet cv and farm planes. BBs are supposed to be weak vs CV's. (I know the reason, WG plz fix this!).

1.1 (w8 what?) A PLANE framing devision. who does not farm planes ("planes killed half of my team"). But its there faulth. (IF they where planes farming. wp, enemy cv for not being a farm. Poor devision, they tried to counter planesr, with ships that sould be funerable to planes, and failed). The contradiction in your OWN reasoning!

2.IF this is true. he shows he is not that skilled, might that be a reason he didnt show YOUR VIEW of good play.

3.Than why did you engage him in this?

A. HE DID

B. You distracted your team, while they had to deal whit the battle? and hinder stragety communication?

4. Well done, dying for a more exsclusive ship type 2 TIERS HIGHER. you should be happy with that feat alone.

5.Committing more resources, to a allready stack and unvaluable part of the map, to edge and corners?

 

 

The funny thing is that you are undermind by your own screenshots.