[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #1 Posted February 15, 2017 As per title. Thought what the heck, I'll try ranked this year. I was prepared for the elo hell so it's okay. What I was not prepared for is having to deal with people that queue for a ranked, torp a teammate then go afk. And all of them were pink initially so if I had to take a wild guess they did this multiple times. So yeah, don't let them queue ranked maybe? Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #2 Posted February 15, 2017 Pinks happen. But taking Kiev or Yorck to ranked should be forbidden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PedeNuts Players 103 posts 1,279 battles Report post #3 Posted February 15, 2017 I had quite a few ranked battles yesterday with pink players - none of them did any team damage deliberately. You were unlucky, and that only means one thing: That you had bad luck. Not that the system is flawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #4 Posted February 15, 2017 Pinks happen. But taking Kiev or Yorck to ranked should be forbidden Had a ranger also. I can't believe he wasn't trolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #5 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I had quite a few ranked battles yesterday with pink players - none of them did any team damage deliberately. You were unlucky, and that only means one thing: That you had bad luck. Not that the system is flawed. Hitting your pinky toe on a corner is bad luck. Having griefing people in team is not bad luck, that's something perfectly avoidable. Wanna play ranked? Don't be pink. So easy. Edited February 15, 2017 by Lord_WC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #6 Posted February 15, 2017 Personally I have always thought that if you are pink you should work it off in PvE. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #7 Posted February 15, 2017 Personally i have always thought that if you are pink you should work it off in PvE. Very good idea. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #8 Posted February 15, 2017 Personally i have always thought that if you are pink you should work it off in PvE. I agree. #unpopularopinionsquad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PedeNuts Players 103 posts 1,279 battles Report post #9 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Hitting your pinky toe on a corner is bad luck. Having griefing people in team is not bad luck, that's something perfectly avoidable. Wanna play ranked? Don't be pink. So easy. Being pink doesn't equal griefing people in ranked. It can be the case, but it can also be the opposite. We had two different experiences with pink players, so yes - it's a question of bad luck. Edited February 15, 2017 by PedeNuts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-CHL-] Fizzy_Odin Beta Tester 545 posts 4,334 battles Report post #10 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Pinks happen. But taking Kiev or Yorck to ranked should be forbidden Kiev is only DD that can counter Belfast good - for sure It won't be in smoke static when Belfast power up radar and you will hit him very hard on 12+km with speed of 43kn or more with your shell arc and speed on Belfast ;) On the other hand Schorsh will eat you in a sec Edited February 15, 2017 by VooDooZG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #11 Posted February 15, 2017 This thread is stupid, accidents happen. I happen to be pink at the moment because a 7km, 50 knot torpedo is very slow, and a friendly destroyer 3km away and well ahead of you doing a 180 turn is always a possibility. Doesn't mean I can't be useful in ranked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #12 Posted February 15, 2017 Personally I have always thought that if you are pink you should work it off in PvE. Personally I am glad your thoughts dont matter. You people assume that everybody goes pink on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #13 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) This thread is stupid, accidents happen. I happen to be pink at the moment because a 7km, 50 knot torpedo is very slow, and a friendly destroyer 3km away and well ahead of you doing a 180 turn is always a possibility. Doesn't mean I can't be useful in ranked. You don't get pink from only one instance of mistakenly killing a friendly with torps though. (Or at least that wasn't the case when I hit someone with my torps about 300 matches ago - so the system has a threshold.) Personally I am glad your thoughts dont matter. You people assume that everybody goes pink on purpose. The problem is with the result. You messed up someone else's game - either by mistake or intentionally. If that continues to happen you get pink. The reason doesn't matter but someone that is absolutely innocent in the matter is having a bad time because of you and only you. Edited February 15, 2017 by Lord_WC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] xxNihilanxx Beta Tester 2,018 posts 13,254 battles Report post #14 Posted February 15, 2017 You don't get pink from only one instance of mistakenly killing a friendly with torps though. (Or at least that wasn't the case when I hit someone with my torps about 300 matches ago - so the system has a threshold.) Yes you do. If you hit a friendly with a torp and he survives there's a good chance you won't turn pink. If, however, you inadvertently kill a friendly, even if he only has 10HP at the time, you will turn pink. Also if pink players are shooting at friendlies the damage gets reflected to themselves. I had a Cleveland shooting at me whilst in a BB the other day. After a couple of shots he turned pink. Unfortunately for him he also set a fire. I watched with mild amusement as, with each tick of fire damage, pink numbers rose above his ship and his health went down. I was almost full health at the start of the incident so I patiently waited for his HP to reduce to 0 then repaired all the fire damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] xxNihilanxx Beta Tester 2,018 posts 13,254 battles Report post #15 Posted February 15, 2017 Kiev is only DD that can counter Belfast good - for sure It won't be in smoke static when Belfast power up radar and you will hit him very hard on 12+km with speed of 43kn or more with your shell arc and speed on Belfast ;) On the other hand Schorsh will eat you in a sec You underestimate the stupidity of you fellow man. I have killed several Kievs in ranked that have done exactly this. Just because it is not a good idea to play a certain ship a certain way it doesn't mean that people won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #16 Posted February 15, 2017 Personally I am glad your thoughts dont matter. You people assume that everybody goes pink on purpose. Anyone who goes pink deserves derision because there is no excuse for team damage. Ever. You are always in the wrong no matter what. I know it is hard when you feel the game is there just for you, but don't shoot allied ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #17 Posted February 15, 2017 This thread is stupid, accidents happen. I happen to be pink at the moment because a 7km, 50 knot torpedo is very slow, and a friendly destroyer 3km away and well ahead of you doing a 180 turn is always a possibility. Doesn't mean I can't be useful in ranked. Don't shoot when friendlies are between you and the enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #18 Posted February 15, 2017 Anyone who goes pink deserves derision because there is no excuse for team damage. Ever. You are always in the wrong no matter what. I know it is hard when you feel the game is there just for you, but don't shoot allied ships. you would make an excellent religious fanatic with that kind of thinking. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ApesTogetherStronK [SCRUB] Players 1,074 posts Report post #19 Posted February 15, 2017 Pinks are generally fine. Prohibiting Pay to Win Premium ships from playing ranked on the other hand...I could get behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #20 Posted February 15, 2017 You don't get pink from only one instance of mistakenly killing a friendly with torps though. (Or at least that wasn't the case when I hit someone with my torps about 300 matches ago - so the system has a threshold.) Yes you do. Single torpedo, 3k damage, didn't even kill the guy. The only previous team damage was the occasional 20 or-so ram damage in the day, and someone who brushed up against me in smoke and got hit by one HE shell a few day prior. That's less than 4k damage of team damage in a month, and somehow warrants a teamkiller status. Don't shoot when friendlies are between you and the enemy. And I apologized to the person, seeing as I didn't think it possible for a friendly well AHEAD of me, only 3km away to do a full 180 degree turn and get hit by a torpedo salvo. But hey, apparently small mistakes are not allowed and here is no middle ground. You're either not pink, or you're a huge teamkilling scumbag who wants to kill his entire team and deserves to only play PvE. A binary thoguht process I would only attribute to school children and the naive riding high horses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] Lord_WC [-AP-] Weekend Tester 1,000 posts 8,199 battles Report post #21 Posted February 15, 2017 Yes you do. Single torpedo, 3k damage, didn't even kill the guy. The only previous team damage was the occasional 20 or-so ram damage in the day, and someone who brushed up against me in smoke and got hit by one HE shell a few day prior. That's less than 4k damage of team damage in a month, and somehow warrants a teamkiller status. Unless it was changed recently than I have a hard time believing that. That instance I torped a friendly by mistake (entirely my fault, wasn't paying attention when trying to torp something from close distance and he got into my firing line) and he died from about 60% hp. Never got pink from it. Granted I don't even have those 20 hp brushes you mention, and that was my only team damage ever. It's also not a 'small mistake'. You killed a friendly. That's basically equivalent of going afk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #22 Posted February 15, 2017 you would make an excellent religious fanatic with that kind of thinking. I know who is in the wrong. Don't shoot allied ships and you can't be in the wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #23 Posted February 15, 2017 Yes you do. Single torpedo, 3k damage, didn't even kill the guy. The only previous team damage was the occasional 20 or-so ram damage in the day, and someone who brushed up against me in smoke and got hit by one HE shell a few day prior. That's less than 4k damage of team damage in a month, and somehow warrants a teamkiller status. And I apologized to the person, seeing as I didn't think it possible for a friendly well AHEAD of me, only 3km away to do a full 180 degree turn and get hit by a torpedo salvo. But hey, apparently small mistakes are not allowed and here is no middle ground. You're either not pink, or you're a huge teamkilling scumbag who wants to kill his entire team and deserves to only play PvE. A binary thoguht process I would only attribute to school children and the naive riding high horses. Please stick the strawman up your arse along with your indignation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #24 Posted February 15, 2017 Please stick the strawman up your arse along with your indignation. It's not a strawman. You have two modes of thinking : either you're white and innocent, or you're pink and a teamkilling menace for at the very least 6 matches. That's binary and by extension childish and extremely arrogant. It cannot occur to you that someone pink is a completely regular person who might have made one single mistake. I know who is in the wrong. Don't shoot allied ships and you can't be in the wrong. THAT'S a strawman. Changing the subject from your thought process to a morale superiority over someon's mistake. Unless it was changed recently than I have a hard time believing that. That instance I torped a friendly by mistake (entirely my fault, wasn't paying attention when trying to torp something from close distance and he got into my firing line) and he died from about 60% hp. Never got pink from it. Granted I don't even have those 20 hp brushes you mention, and that was my only team damage ever. It's also not a 'small mistake'. You killed a friendly. That's basically equivalent of going afk. Exocet6951 Yes you do.Single torpedo, 3k damage, didn't even kill the guy. At least have the decency of reading.Also, I don't really give a damn if you believe me or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYTHE] _Flyto_ Players 623 posts 7,167 battles Report post #25 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Kiev is only DD that can counter Belfast good - for sure It won't be in smoke static when Belfast power up radar and you will hit him very hard on 12+km with speed of 43kn or more with your shell arc and speed on Belfast ;) Best counter for Belfast - and in general for this season's whole everybody-sat-in-smoke meta, at least at rank ~10, seems to be Shiratsuyu. 16 torps in the space of a Belfast smoke = "DODGE THIS" :-) I thought this ship would be uncompetetive, with her low speed and inability to knife-fight with other DDs, but at least at modest ranks she's been my most successful by far, almost entirely because of torping people in smoke. Edited February 15, 2017 by _Flyto_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites