[KVK] Cpt_Andre Players 710 posts 21,666 battles Report post #1 Posted February 14, 2017 Good morning, after launching the spotter plane the point-of-view switches from the ship's rangefinder to the elevated spotter plane. This view is workable for long range shots, but in closer engagements this POV doesn't help. I would be great if it would be possible to toggle the POV between rangefinders and spotter plane. For example by pressing the [Launch spotter plane] button again! Best regards 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #2 Posted February 14, 2017 It properly F's up my aim on BBs. To the point where I don't bother. Really messes up my depth perception. It's ok for cruisers that have it as you can walk fire onto stuff but not with BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #3 Posted February 14, 2017 This idea has been brought up before, and I think it might be a good one for the developers to look into. Has anyone heard any mention of this from the WG staff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #4 Posted February 14, 2017 i dont ever use the spotter plane. dont like it. id rather wait to get into range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #5 Posted February 14, 2017 HI all, i dont ever use the spotter plane. dont like it. id rather wait to get into range. You don't know what you are missing (especially in Ranked)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalamies Players 230 posts 5,952 battles Report post #6 Posted February 14, 2017 Atleast i dont miss anything. I used spotter plane when i started playing, since that i have never used it. Since it f***s up the camera. I have managed to hammer enemy pretty well without it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #7 Posted February 14, 2017 spotter plane makes me miss everything because of camera angle. i only use fighter, if spotter is the only option on the ship than i dont use the plane at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #8 Posted February 14, 2017 Hi all, Guys... really... I am not kidding... spotting planes can help you get rid of the smoke-hiding-AP/HE-spewing-ships which is especially useful in Ranked... Leo "Apollo11" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #9 Posted February 14, 2017 The only things i use the spotter plane for is to be able to look behind islands and see where ships have their turret pointed at. Im never that far away from battle that i would need the extra range. Also as leo said, it helps a lot of pinpointing the location of ships in smoke as you have a much better distance perception from above than frontally. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #10 Posted February 14, 2017 Hi all, The only things i use the spotter plane for is to be able to look behind islands and see where ships have their turret pointed at. Im never that far away from battle that i would need the extra range. Also as leo said, it helps a lot of pinpointing the location of ships in smoke as you have a much better distance perception from above than frontally. Exactly! One just has to look carefully and if ship in smoke is firing fast salvos you can pinpoint him very easily... I have citadeled to death RN CLs that thought that they were 100% safe (i.e. no Radar and no Hydro threats so they thought all is OK)... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kastike Players 188 posts 3,803 battles Report post #11 Posted February 14, 2017 Guys... really... I am not kidding... spotting planes can help you get rid of the smoke-hiding-AP/HE-spewing-ships which is especially useful in Ranked... Guys... really... I am not kidding... wearing two pairs of socks really helps you to get around... Quite a few players can deal with smoke-hiding-AP/HE-spewing-ships without spotter plane. With spotter plane after smoke dissipates you have cope with awkward camera for a far too long time. Not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-S] Kann_Nix_Extreme Players 388 posts 15,432 battles Report post #12 Posted February 14, 2017 Quite a few players can deal with smoke-hiding-AP/HE-spewing-ships without spotter plane. With spotter plane after smoke dissipates you have cope with awkward camera for a far too long time. Not worth it. Can't deny that it's even easier with the spotter plane up, can you? Also: Why do people find if so hard to lead with the different view at close range? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kastike Players 188 posts 3,803 battles Report post #13 Posted February 14, 2017 Can't deny that it's even easier with the spotter plane up, can you? Also: Why do people find if so hard to lead with the different view at close range? Its rather subjective. Some find it easier to engage enemies in smoke while on spotter plane and some find it easier to use normal viewpoint. If your aim doesn't suffer from spotter plane, good for you. I become nigh useless in that viewpoint, and thus prefer hitting smoked enemies after few ranging shots in normal view mode. These must be lil' things that make solid players stand apart from us average Joes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #14 Posted February 14, 2017 HI all, You don't know what you are missing (especially in Ranked)... Leo "Apollo11" I'm usually missing what I've fired at. I often use it to get some early long range shots in then never use it again. This is why I never buy the premium consumable, except on HMS Perth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] xxNihilanxx Beta Tester 2,018 posts 13,254 battles Report post #15 Posted February 14, 2017 Isn't the whole point of the spotting plane the fact that the "awkward" camera angle is the trade off for the extra range? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,925 battles Report post #16 Posted February 14, 2017 It is annoying, let's hope WG make a switch for this in a future update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,762 battles Report post #17 Posted February 15, 2017 Its rather subjective. Some find it easier to engage enemies in smoke while on spotter plane and some find it easier to use normal viewpoint. If your aim doesn't suffer from spotter plane, good for you. I become nigh useless in that viewpoint, and thus prefer hitting smoked enemies after few ranging shots in normal view mode. These must be lil' things that make solid players stand apart from us average Joes. There are two and a half things spotter planes are good for. Applying citadels to lazy cruisers (or other targets) hiding behind isles, shooting into smoke and the obscure extra range. The trick with smoke is not the point of view (at least not for me) but the targeting/rangefinding of shots. Targeting/rangefinding the water from above is much easier because you actually target something, the water, than targeting/rangefinding from normal view. However I agree to OP that there should be a toggle, allowing players to choose their view for the next salvo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #18 Posted February 15, 2017 The only things i use the spotter plane for is to be able to look behind islands and see where ships have their turret pointed at. Im never that far away from battle that i would need the extra range. Also as leo said, it helps a lot of pinpointing the location of ships in smoke as you have a much better distance perception from above than frontally. That can be achieved by fast clicking M key. The camera lifts so you can see the ship behind the island. Needs some adjusting to and does not always work. The problem with spotter plane is that I often want it to land and I cant. You release it, focus some distand enemy and then a DD pops up at 10 km ... try hitting him with this crap camera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #19 Posted February 15, 2017 my spotter plane pilots sit the entire game out in the mess drinking tea/beer and eating pork pies and getting fatter and fatter because they aint ever going up in one of my games unless I mash my keyboard hitting the wrong key then I stare at the screen wondering if I'm drunk (as usual) due to the completely messed up point of view when aiming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominico Players 533 posts 2,226 battles Report post #20 Posted February 15, 2017 At close range use the mouse roller wheel? You don't need to zoom all the way in :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #21 Posted February 15, 2017 know it all... I just dont use it because its more of a nerf to me. Its the only non prem consumable i take Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] Odo_Toothless Players 5,402 posts 24,784 battles Report post #22 Posted February 17, 2018 I know how to toggle spotter camera to normal view and vice versa with the same zoom. This is not even a mod, but change of one value in file. Question is how is WG point of view on this ? If they agree I will tell You, how to do it. Ok ? I think they don't want such option, becouse they didn't make a simple configuration to make it work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FNX-] TheFierceRabbit Beta Tester, Players 365 posts Report post #23 Posted February 17, 2018 On 14/02/2017 at 8:37 AM, Cpt_Andre said: Good morning, after launching the spotter plane the point-of-view switches from the ship's rangefinder to the elevated spotter plane. This view is workable for long range shots, but in closer engagements this POV doesn't help. I would be great if it would be possible to toggle the POV between rangefinders and spotter plane. For example by pressing the [Launch spotter plane] button again! Best regards It's a great suggestion because the POV change is really fscking annoying. Don't expect a useful feature to be implemented any time soon :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] Odo_Toothless Players 5,402 posts 24,784 battles Report post #24 Posted February 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, TigerMoth said: It's a great suggestion because the POV change is really fscking annoying. Don't expect a useful feature to be implemented any time soon :) I already implemented it ;-) - please read previous post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #25 Posted February 17, 2018 Drifting the thread slightly, is there any particular reason that the spotter plane cool-downs have to be so long - even on the premium version? I don't understand the point of a consumable where you often can't even use half of it in a single game. IMHO WG ought to introduce both short cool-downs and POV switching. That'd give a much more flexible gameplay. In fact, if WG want to make the game a bit more realistic, a spotter plane ought to give a vision bonus to all friendly team ships within a certain distance. In real life, a ground or air spotter might adjust multiple fire units simultaneously. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites