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Hi all,

 

Colorado is for me the first in this line that I do good in.  I play ranked battles with it (up to 12 now) with 60% winrate. Most games I have about 100000 k damage in ranked with it. If it doesn t work in a game it is mostly a complete teamfail (like today in ranked where we were wiped out 7-0, that s when I do only 40 k damage).

In ranked I use the flag for 5 knots extra speed. But without it would not make much difference. I find the guns accurate enough and strong enough, and enjoy it quite well in ranked.

I had a fight with Nagato and two german tier 7 ´s and a DD this morning, I concentrated mostly on Nagato (but the DD got a salvo from me also) and almost killed him in this situation of three (and a DD) against me.

 

 

Previous Ranked I used my "Colorado" till Rank #10 and it was good performer (tanking and causing damage - loses were, just as you said, when there is complete team-fail and BB can't do much alone)...

 

BTW, it is 5% speed increase and not 5 knots (it would be great if it is 5 knots)! :)

 

This Ranked I tried just 1 battle with her (the rest I am doing with my "Fiji") - it was a loss but I was at top and didn't lose a star - with current META I will not use her as much as I wanted (few games here and there) and concentrate on my "Fiji" instead...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

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oke, leo.  My only other options are myoko and arp-myoko alikes. But I don´t do well in them, I don t do enough damage with myoko´s. (around 30-35k).

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CptMinia   

406mmm guns pack a good punch but if you want to use all 8 of your guns you need to show a bit too much broadside and if RNG favours the opposing player then you will take some big hits. Anti-air capabilities are good although you won't be escorting anyone for sure especially due to her horrible speed and agility. Personally I prefer the Nagato as she packs just as big of a punch (especially with upgraded shells) but sacrifices armour for speed, but if you angle well and play smart she is still very capable as long as you don't meet an aircraft carrier which lets be honest, doesn't happen very often. 

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Sluggish and slow, slow turret traverse, inaccurate guns and the armor isn´t that great at all.

Nagato isn´t suited that well either.

 

Sadly, I agree.

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Hi all,

 

oke, leo.  My only other options are myoko and arp-myoko alikes. But I don´t do well in them, I don t do enough damage with myoko´s. (around 30-35k).

 

 

I must apologize....

 

Yesterday I played "Ranked" with my "Fiji" and had terrible time... teams were disorganized and uncoordinated (for example we all agree on "A" and then two ships go to "B" and die immediately)... but the biggest problem were cowardly hiding BBs in my own team... :(

 

 

So... I said to myself "What the Hell"... and jumped into my good old trusty "Colorado"... I have it set for "Tanking" and I am always in in the center of with brawling with the enemy!

 

It was great - I carried the team twice (I can really punish enemy BBs Nagato / Colorado / Gneisenau / Scharnhorst showing too much side with those 406 whilst still angled) and the only battle I lost I was on top (#1 with 90.000+ damage)! :)

 

 

So... it appears that if there are plenty of cowardly hiding BBs you have to switch from RN CLs because they can't carry alone if there is no BB support (they will simply be overrun) to BB! :izmena:

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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What is wrong with her Ranked performance? Fairly tanky, one of the best BB heals, big punchy guns, good AA, nimble and all her secondaries fire HE and has the same base range as the Nagato.

Slow, bad turret angles, low HP pool.

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Hi all,

 

Slow, bad turret angles, low HP pool.

 

 

Most people underestimate the "Colorado"... :)

 

When properly handled (angled) you can be devastating against enemy BBs (including Gneisenau / Scharnhorst which are often surprised by their sudden loss of HP that can be 10.000 / 15.000 per salvo if you know where to aim)! :B

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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Gnirf   

 

Yes Colo is just too slow, a game can literally run away from you.

 

I don't see why Flamu says Nagato is good, I tried using her and had to go German. Naga is too slow and armour is too bad,  Ranked meta doesn't suit 32s reload guns either and the ranges you fight at she over pens everything to hell.

 

You may be true but to be fair down to say R 12-13 I suppose it does not matter so much, it is more important that you as a player know your ship, I played down to R13 in Nagato very quickly but then changed to Shiratsuyu.

Not that it had gone that better but at least it feels like you contibute more. Before that i Went very well w Nagato. There are lots of players in various ships so I Think the anti Colorado/Nagato statement is valid somewhere down the line where you are Negativvv, not those that just want to try ranked a few games. Play with Colorado if you like her and do not have anything else. It can be a taste of Ranked and you get some rewards. Next season you might be better prepared shipwise. No offence meant Negativvv and other posts that disregards some ships.

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Hi all,

 

 

 

Most people underestimate the "Colorado"... :)

 

When properly handled (angled) you can be devastating against enemy BBs (including Gneisenau / Scharnhorst which are often surprised by their sudden loss of HP that can be 10.000 / 15.000 per salvo if you know where to aim)! :B

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

They can do the same thing to colorado if they know where to aim. So if we consider there is also spam from CAs, having more HP is very important in ranked. If you want to have big guns, play nagato. Not colorado.

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HI all,

 

They can do the same thing to colorado if they know where to aim. So if we consider there is also spam from CAs, having more HP is very important in ranked. If you want to have big guns, play nagato. Not colorado.

 

 

But surely "Colorado" is better brawler than "Nagato" - isn't it? :B

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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HI all,

 

 

 

But surely "Colorado" is better brawler than "Nagato" - isn't it? :B

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

and what use does it have in ranked? in ranked, you cant brawl.

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I quite enjoied my Colorado grind.

At the beginning is surprising to see how much bad this ship actually is... but it's only a matter of stock hull.

After you have fulled Hull, Ammo Range and Engine (!) she becomes a powerfull ship, not far from my beloved Nagato.

The only problem, but it's a huge one, is the low top speed: mounting the speed signal is a must.

Edited by BaronMannerheim

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FireRM   

HI all,

 

 

 

But surely "Colorado" is better brawler than "Nagato" - isn't it? :B

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

If you end up brawling Gneisenaus and Scharnhorsts in your Colorado, you have messed up a while ago, big time!

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Hi all,

 

 

If you end up brawling Gneisenaus and Scharnhorsts in your Colorado, you have messed up a while ago, big time!

 

The KM torps are 6 km - you can brawl below 10 km (and above 6 km) just fine (and friendly RN CLs feel much stronger when there is BB close to them)...

 

 

and what use does it have in ranked? in ranked, you cant brawl.

 

For me the "brawl" in ranked is 10 km and below (but above KM torp range of 6 km)...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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Hi all,

 

 

The KM torps are 6 km - you can brawl below 10 km (and above 6 km) just fine (and friendly RN CLs feel much stronger when there is BB close to them)...

 

 

 

For me the "brawl" in ranked is 10 km and below (but above KM torp range of 6 km)...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

the thing you dont understand is, with that many belfasts and fijis, you cant brawl. they melt you before you can even notice. Edited by ghostbuster_

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They can do the same thing to colorado if they know where to aim. So if we consider there is also spam from CAs, having more HP is very important in ranked.

Don't forget gunboat DDs.

Colorado's 25mm flimsy side is very good target for AP spam from flanking DD.

And of course CL guns pen it even better.

That tinfoil needs clear angling or bad shell trajectory to block/bounce any APs.

 

All or nothing armor scheme just isn't that well working in game mechanics against enemies shooting from wider area.

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mariouus   

So.Because I re bought  Colorado for this thread.

 

Here is a quick run-down of the current state of Colorado.

 

Since re-buying it I have played 130 battles in Colorado. Averaging 68% winrate and 84000 hp of average damage.

After 40 battles I re-spected my captain and modules (now running: Preventative Maintenance, High Alert,Adrenaline Rush. Basics of Survivability, Superintendent, Fire Prevention, Advanced Firing Training) and last 90.battles of 130.battles were at 69% of winrate and 91000 hp of damage.

 

Colorado, in my opinion is the best tier.7 BB, extremely capable. At the same time, it is most unforgiving (now Nelson tops it, in that), any misplay will be punished heavily. But if you know your limitations of the Standard class, you will probably do well. It has gone so far actually, that if I see that enemy team has Colorado I become happy - easy kill- what is kind of weird when I am playing Colorado.

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mariouus   
2 minutes ago, captainhaddock_2015 said:

I enjoyed my time in the Colorado despite its well known shortcomings, its just that well the North Carolina is a lot nicer.

I never got along with NC, while I overally like it. NC guns are just appauling, in my opinion. If I could get NC with Colorado guns, I would be very happy.

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