[CRM5] ThinCool [CRM5] Players 15 posts 23,569 battles Report post #1 Posted February 7, 2017 How do you think the match making works? are you satisfied about this? I think that the image attached speaks alone... take a look and try to explain... Best Regards 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #2 Posted February 7, 2017 What is your point? Cant see anything wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #3 Posted February 7, 2017 How do you think the match making works? I daresay it works something like this: https://www.google.com/patents/US8425330 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallenOrchid Players 2,234 posts 20,517 battles Report post #4 Posted February 7, 2017 What is your point? Cant see anything wrong His T6 buddy in a T9 match, caused by T6/T7 division. This was OPs fault, no issue with MM. OP: If you have mixed tier division (AKA "fail division") MM considers only the top tier ship(s) of the division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] B4zza Players 160 posts 20,580 battles Report post #5 Posted February 7, 2017 It looks fine. Your division has a split of tiers which is your choice to do. As you made that choice the Graf Spee is treated tier wise, as the same as the highest tier ship within the division. As the highest tier in that division is 7 and tier 7 ships can see up to tier 9 ships in battle nothing is wrong here other than your choice to play in a mix tier division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #6 Posted February 7, 2017 take a look and try to explain... Best Regards I`ll try: you can take screenshot of any moment in game by pressing prtscr button, no need to take photos of your screen with cell phone. Your sreenshots will be saved in worldofwarships/screenshots folder. You are welcome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #7 Posted February 7, 2017 How do you think the match making works? are you satisfied about this? I think that the image attached speaks alone... take a look and try to explain... Best Regards Excellent MM, there are more cruisers then BB's! Divisioning with GS with tier 7's = your fault, not the MM. Or did you think that by divisioning with tier lower you would be top tier more often Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGB] iJoby Community Contributor 2,171 posts 30,929 battles Report post #8 Posted February 7, 2017 What is your point? Cant see anything wrong I think the OP whats to know how WG base the balance of both teams, do they use an algorithm so both teams are near equal based on Player skills and ships used, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #9 Posted February 7, 2017 Does this help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #10 Posted February 7, 2017 are you satisfied about this? Yes, i am satisfied with the matchmaker. what i am unsatisfied with is fail divisions which cant be bothered to agree on which tier they want to play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOUF] RambaRal Beta Tester 337 posts 7,140 battles Report post #11 Posted February 7, 2017 I`ll try: you can take screenshot of any moment in game by pressing prtscr button, no need to take photos of your screen with cell phone. Your sreenshots will be saved in worldofwarships/screenshots folder. You are welcome. This It looks fine. Your division has a split of tiers which is your choice to do. As you made that choice the Graf Spee is treated tier wise, as the same as the highest tier ship within the division. As the highest tier in that division is 7 and tier 7 ships can see up to tier 9 ships in battle nothing is wrong here other than your choice to play in a mix tier division. And this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #12 Posted February 7, 2017 I'm here to help you: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics_(WoWS) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5] ThinCool [CRM5] Players 15 posts 23,569 battles Report post #13 Posted February 7, 2017 My question isn't offensive or sarcastic, while some answers yes, so I don't want to be offensive or sarcastic like someonelse here, but please reserve your sarcasm for your friends or home or whoever permits it. Thank you. Kind regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] seaghost Players 4 posts 27,241 battles Report post #14 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Of course considering the game mechanics, you are right and the MM is working as intended. I think the question here is; why, at this stage of the game, with a higher number of players on the servers, Wargaming doesnt make an effort to design the MM in order to allow maximum one level difference between ships in game ? Whether I can understand that at the beginning WG tried to avoid too long waiting time to set up the teams, my experience is that now you dont wait more than few seconds to have the match set, therefore a MM with only one level difference between ships would grant a more balanced gameplay for everybody, including lower tier ships without penalizing the community for too long waiting time. Of course I think this is something WG should look at because even in normal situation, it is not fun for a level 8 ship deal and fight level 10 opponents. It is demotivating at least, and nowaday, when you play Level 8 ships, 8 matches over 10 you play with Level 10s. To be considered and eventually submitted via a Poll to the Community to understand what they think. Edited February 7, 2017 by seaghost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LXT] _interceptor_80 Players 385 posts 20,233 battles Report post #15 Posted February 7, 2017 This is how mm need to work If you are in a tripple division you always need to get +2 tier battles Because you need to show some skill not to only perform tripple left clicking on single or 2 enemy ships If you want division advantage - show some skill Today we have silly 3x Scharn divisions in tier VII battles! Total pay-to-win crap! This division can wipe floor in tier 8 battles and be sucessful in tier 9 battles if they are skilled enough Thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #16 Posted February 7, 2017 Short answer, in division, MM only takes highest ship. If you don't want this to happen, do not go division with different tier ships. To be honest, now divisions can only be +/- 1, they should make MM take the tier of all ships so you don't get this. Or just force same tier division so there is no confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ODIUM] Synth_FG Players 551 posts 15,194 battles Report post #17 Posted February 7, 2017 uld grant a more balanced gameplay for everybody, including lower tier ships without penalizing the community for too long waiting time. Of course I think this is something WG should look at because even in normal situation, it is not fun for a level 8 ship deal and fight level 10 opponents. It is demotivating at least, and nowaday, when you play Level 8 ships, 8 matches over 10 you play with Level 10s. To be considered and eventually submitted via a Poll to the Community to understand what they thin Because being the lower tier in a 2 tier mm system can provide for a challenging and fun experience I want to occasionally be able to take on Bismark's andTirpitz's in my Warspite because it's a challenge, am I good enough to at least do more damage to them than they do to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #18 Posted February 7, 2017 I think the question here is; why, at this stage of the game, with a higher number of players on the servers, Wargaming doesnt make an effort to design the MM in order to allow maximum one level difference between ships in game ? Because being -2 isn't that big of a deal, it teaches people also how to play tactical when they are not all equal ( like, ganging up on someone stronger then you which would beat you in fair fight 1v1 ). My question isn't offensive or sarcastic, while some answers yes, so I don't want to be offensive or sarcastic like someonelse here, but please reserve your sarcasm for your friends or home or whoever permits it. Thank you. Kind regards Wasn't really clear from your first post, since this isn't a 'new topic'. Using search would have given you the exact same answers so either live with some sarcasm or use that next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5] ThinCool [CRM5] Players 15 posts 23,569 battles Report post #19 Posted February 7, 2017 It seems Oscar Wilde was right. End of discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #20 Posted February 7, 2017 I think the question here is; why, at this stage of the game, with a higher number of players on the servers, Wargaming doesnt make an effort to design the MM in order to allow maximum one level difference between ships in game ? Because it actually creates interesting variety of ships in game in each battle. The only thing I would change is tier weighting, so the top tier ships in a battle are always the fewest as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5] ThinCool [CRM5] Players 15 posts 23,569 battles Report post #21 Posted February 11, 2017 And to all nice guys TESTERS, professors of all and nothing: Akitsuki (tier 8) hit 123 times Shimakaze (tier 10) with HE shells.... damage dealt: 9214! Which better way for a fun & challenging experience..... oh yeah, I was in mistake, must have used AP, blah blah blah 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted February 12, 2017 And to all nice guys TESTERS, professors of all and nothing: Akitsuki (tier 8) hit 123 times Shimakaze (tier 10) with HE shells.... damage dealt: 9214! Which better way for a fun & challenging experience..... oh yeah, I was in mistake, must have used AP, blah blah blah 1. There is no ship called Akitsuki 2. You probably mean Akizuki 3. Learn game mechanics ( it's probably damage saturation, since without IFHE you wouldn't have damaged a tier X DD at all with HE as you don't have enough pen to penetrate the armor... though with 123 shell hits that 9k dmg could have been fire damage as well.... Much complain, nothing substantial in the sense of actual information or even better, a replay. /case closed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5] ThinCool [CRM5] Players 15 posts 23,569 battles Report post #23 Posted February 12, 2017 Certainly you are right because of game mechanics, and here returns my first sentence about mm for equal tier ships. You don't have to take it as a personal thing, and remember that a paying client (like he who is writing) is not ever in right, but have to be respected... Now case closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted February 12, 2017 Certainly you are right because of game mechanics, and here returns my first sentence about mm for equal tier ships. You don't have to take it as a personal thing, and remember that a paying client (like he who is writing) is not ever in right, but have to be respected... Now case closed. Akizuki needs IFHE if people angle towards it, you're not a bad player so I would expect you to research what special 'needs' some ships have. Akizuki is one of those special needs ships, it does not play like any other DD right now ( 700m turning circle for one... ). And the gun's only being 100m which gives 16mm of HE penetration, which is just not enough for a lot of armor plating it can meet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WinningSpike010 Players 128 posts 24,602 battles Report post #25 Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) My question isn't offensive or sarcastic, while some answers yes, so I don't want to be offensive or sarcastic like someonelse here, but please reserve your sarcasm for your friends or home or whoever permits it. Thank you. Kind regards Man, you are walking on thin ice... ;) Talking about how MM works IS STRICTLY FORBBIDDEN!! As you try you will be immediately trolled and eventually censored. Look at the attachments to have an example... Remember that this forum is under censorship. A buon intenditor... ;) Edited February 12, 2017 by WinningSpike010 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
