[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #1 Posted January 23, 2017 the baltimore sucks the armor sucks the barrel count sucks the reload time sucks the shell speed sucks the shell arc sucks is it even worth grinding for the DM? its literally the same thing but now you can spam shells every 5 sec 4 god damn tiers of pensacola in a row................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GioIonutz Players 245 posts 13,478 battles Report post #2 Posted January 23, 2017 For me was worth to get DM and play all the other tiers for it. Trust me that with DM you'll be able to tank also against t8 BBs, your penetration is just... AMAZING! You'll see when you'll try it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #3 Posted January 23, 2017 Baltimore armor is godly compared to Pepsicola. Sure, it's just cruiser armor. But you can bounce stuff unlike Pepsi. Stock reload sucks, upgraded it's much better. Radar is very strong, but you rely on your team to get into the right position. This ship can't carry a bunch of potatoes or BallessBorderhuggers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #4 Posted January 23, 2017 I know the feeling, I couldn't get the Baltimore to work either. But you've made it this far, so push on and use the Baltimore to familiarise yourself with the tier X matchmaking. So by the time you unlock the DM, you'll know exactly what you're facing and you'll have an amazing tool to deal with a lot of problems. One remark though, shell arcs won't improve on DM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #5 Posted January 23, 2017 it always was crap , only go for dm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #6 Posted January 23, 2017 I'm suffering through this ship since june already. Can rarely muster up the motivation to take it into battle. 1 positive thing though: the matches are always blissfully short. I am on the verge of giving up. My top commander was on that ship but I took him off it: he'll be on Gearing when I've unlocked it. My only "hope" is re-speccing it to AA since I seem to notice the CV's are risen from the graveyards lately. I did have 1 match in which was a CV present. That was about the only time Baltimore shone. Ship to ship combat? I suck in this 1. Quadrupling it's armor by taking cammo didn't help either... Each ship which is looking funny at you, regardless what angle is an automatic citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOTEL] darkwingfighter Players 213 posts 7,882 battles Report post #7 Posted January 23, 2017 Trust me that with DM you'll be able to tank also against t8 BB Only Bismarck/Tirpitz and Baltimore can also do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #8 Posted January 23, 2017 Is it worse than New Orleans? Please say it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FloRead Beta Tester 289 posts 11,865 battles Report post #9 Posted January 23, 2017 Even Des Moines is a floating citadel. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I get citadeled on the Des Moines, when in other cruisers, that same hit would not have been a citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agantas Players 1,059 posts 7,793 battles Report post #10 Posted January 23, 2017 How did you guys like New Orleans vs Pepsi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #11 Posted January 24, 2017 Is it worse than New Orleans? Please say it isn't. it LOOKS like it would be better, with that 90deg aft section now gone, but i still eat juicy penns every so often the front armor is a little better and seems to bounce more stuff but really...... its just another (slightly buffed) pensacola Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #12 Posted January 24, 2017 Even Des Moines is a floating citadel. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I get citadeled on the Des Moines, when in other cruisers, that same hit would not have been a citadel. yeah but those 5s spam guns and the firing angles....... only cruiser that can do that AFAIK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #13 Posted January 24, 2017 How did you guys like New Orleans vs Pepsi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-5D-] HotshotJimmy [-5D-] Players 498 posts 5,250 battles Report post #14 Posted January 24, 2017 I began this game doing the US cruisers. That was my goal. I got to the Pepsi and thought hmmm... this sucks. So it was sold and I used the Cleveland to get enough for the New Orleans. Got that and boy did it suck hard. So much so I bought the Kutuzov for ranked battles. Sold the New Orleans and waited for something I really wanted. Rn line was announced. The rest is history... Honest opinion is I loved the Omaha and Phoenix with their guns and torps and also the Cleveland was an absolute hoot but then again more CVs played back then. Nowadays i'm finding everything else out classing the US cruisers APART from the Des Moines. I hate that thing with a passion. Its just so dam good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #15 Posted January 24, 2017 Honost question: can Des Moines be considered as a faster shooting Pensa/new Orleans/ Baltimore clone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1378] Nargoth73 Players 460 posts 3,784 battles Report post #16 Posted January 24, 2017 Pepsicola was a horrible experience. But then I got the New Orleans and I missed the Pepsi, since at least I had a few good matches in her, and NO seems to get citadeled iff a wave crosses your bow a bit hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowman79 Beta Tester 143 posts 5,228 battles Report post #17 Posted January 24, 2017 I love my Baltimore...playing aggressive is the way to go. If you stay in the rear and snipe...well...I can understand your frustration...Those guns are amazing at close and mid range, you can angle the ship and bounce a lot of shots while you can still fire 6 guns at the enemy... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #18 Posted January 24, 2017 the baltimore sucks the armor sucks the barrel count sucks the reload time sucks the shell speed sucks the shell arc sucks is it even worth grinding for the DM? its literally the same thing but now you can spam shells every 5 sec 4 god damn tiers of pensacola in a row................... The US CA line is a prime example why you should not skip ships. Each ship in this line T5+ prepares you for the further progress and ultimativly for the T10. If you skip a step/ship you are missing a part of the learning curve. If you play each ship to a point where you understand it and end up doing at least a little above average (compared to US CA Serverstats, nothing else) you will end up doing well in the T10. You skipped the Pensa and most of the NO. So there is no surprise you complain about the Balti because you never learned how to play the ships. Prediction: unless you grind out the Balti to a point where you have good results in ~10 battles in a row, you will suck in the DM at least in the first 50+ games. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #19 Posted January 24, 2017 How did you guys like New Orleans vs Pepsi? Actually New Orleans is ever worse than Pensacola, as it'll see tier 10 so often, and it's barely even viable at tier 8. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOK] Donar79 Players 1,968 posts 9,010 battles Report post #20 Posted January 24, 2017 Anyone who complaines about Pepsi, NO and so on has clearly chosen the wrong line. Just don´t play it. Skipping ships from T6 upwards is generally a bad idea in my opinion since mostly u get prepared for a certain playstyle. (in this context i dont understand the KM Yorck but different story) Personally i like the US CA style although i am only mediocre at best. It took me quite a while to get results above average on T7/8 but i am looking forward to the Baltimore anyhow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzkrieguk Beta Tester 438 posts 3,154 battles Report post #21 Posted January 24, 2017 when in other cruisers, that same hit would not have been a citadel. [Laughs in British] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,637 battles Report post #22 Posted January 24, 2017 I hated the Baltimore - stopped playing US cruisers because of it - and tier 9. But didn't like any of the US cruisers above T6 except Atlanta so probably my poor play. The RN line seems easier - maybe because you know you are made from paper - the NO and Baltimore give the impression of being tough but get citadellef very easily . Played the DM on PTS but got bored with the shell arcs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #23 Posted January 24, 2017 I saw this on Reddit today. Made me laugh because it's true https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5puxho/the_only_thing_a_new_orleans_is_good_at/ https://gfycat.com/InfantileFastBlackcrappie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sub_Eleven Players 1,225 posts Report post #24 Posted January 24, 2017 [quote name= Q: USN Cruisers balance? A: They have better AP and pen angles They have performance issues mostly stemming from Pensacola Sub_Octavian personally doesn't think NO, Baltimore and DM needs a buff Line split is an option to improve the line Don't hold your breath waiting for things to get better anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MPT] AkosJaccik Players 920 posts 11,177 battles Report post #25 Posted January 24, 2017 I saw this on Reddit today. Made me laugh because it's true https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5puxho/the_only_thing_a_new_orleans_is_good_at/ https://gfycat.com/InfantileFastBlackcrappie "Press F for respect" - made me burst out in laughter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites