SovietFury43 Beta Tester 665 posts 7,033 battles Report post #1 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) [edited] Notice the two BBs at I 7 and 8? Yep they moved a total of 2m from the spawn pretty much the whole match Edited January 24, 2017 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #2 Posted January 22, 2017 Let me guess, NCs? Probably spotted an enemy near B, instantly hit full reverse and bow tank until there's no more ocean behind their aft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JozaVrabac Players 126 posts 32,770 battles Report post #3 Posted January 22, 2017 and they spreding to all the teames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #4 Posted January 22, 2017 For you it was the worst match you've ever seen. For me it was Sunday. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerderklaus Players 299 posts 16,115 battles Report post #5 Posted January 22, 2017 Emmm, that actually is extremely good to some of the teams I got today, f.e. a match with lots of BBs and all but one random BBs in my team got steamrolled (quckly killed without doing damage to them) by enemy BBs who constantly give broadside... In particular the random Monties today were extreme... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #6 Posted January 22, 2017 Let me guess, NCs? Probably spotted an enemy near B, instantly hit full reverse and bow tank until there's no more ocean behind their aft. NC bow on is one of the biggest noob trap, NC is a hunter, 11.8 km concealment, just go unspotted, check a sexy broadside and Coubs are always amazing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #7 Posted January 22, 2017 Emmm, that actually is extremely good to some of the teams I got today, f.e. a match with lots of BBs and all but one random BBs in my team got steamrolled (quckly killed without doing damage to them) by enemy BBs who constantly give broadside... In particular the random Monties today were extreme... Today's theme for me was Iowa's giving broadside. I thought it would be impolite not to shoot at them in my Izumo. NC bow on is one of the biggest noob trap, NC is a hunter, 11.8 km concealment, just go unspotted, check a sexy broadside and *snip* OMG my browser just completely crapped out when I tried to remove that video. When will that bloody Adobe Flashplayer finally die in a hole as it derserves? *grmbl* Anyhow: aye, NC and Iowa are amazing ambush predators. Get yourself a nice position to shoot from, smack some unsuspecting ship in the buttocks, get undetected again, then repeat the process until no more buttocks to smack. Too many people get a tanking hard-on about those 32mm bow armour profiles. Just image how soulcrushing their first encounter with a Yamato must be. One moment bow-tanking like a boss, next moment they catch 20k+ volleys straight through the nose ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Migulaitor Players 748 posts Report post #8 Posted January 22, 2017 Too many people get a tanking hard-on about those 32mm bow armour profiles. Just image how soulcrushing their first encounter with a Yamato must be. One moment bow-tanking like a boss, next moment they catch 20k+ volleys straight through the nose ... (150/6)x1,3>32 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #9 Posted January 23, 2017 Too many people get a tanking hard-on about those 32mm bow armour profiles. Just image how soulcrushing their first encounter with a Yamato must be. One moment bow-tanking like a boss, next moment they catch 20k+ volleys straight through the nose ... And imagine how satisfying it is to crush NC/Iowas dreams is while driving Yamato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #10 Posted January 23, 2017 And imagine how satisfying it is to crush NC/Iowas dreams is while driving Yamato What is so satisfying in crushing the player who has zero chance vs you? +/-2 MM is the cancer of this game, and NC vs Yamato is very good example. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #11 Posted January 23, 2017 (150/6)x1,3>32 True, but there are still a few "bounces" as they have some 37-38mm deck, and the turrets/AA guns like to om nom nom HE shells. I only found that skill useful against Amagis and Izumos, who now just eat salvo after salvo of crushing HE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerderklaus Players 299 posts 16,115 battles Report post #12 Posted January 23, 2017 Today's theme for me was Iowa's giving broadside. I thought it would be impolite not to shoot at them in my Izumo. I kid you not some of these people give perfect broadside at ranges like 6-8km, get noobsaved by RNG on first salvo (1 overpen + remaining shots maximum dispersion when aiming mid-lenth, slightly above waterline), double cita on second salvo and they act as if there was some sort of laming, a hack or luck when the only thing considerable something like this was the first salvo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #13 Posted January 23, 2017 What is so satisfying in crushing the player who has zero chance vs you? +/-2 MM is the cancer of this game, and NC vs Yamato is very good example. Its never 0 chance no matter what you are sailing.But when you know only how to do one thing, and then you see that one thing isn't working all of a sudden, and you have no backup plan, then its not a games fault, its yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #14 Posted January 23, 2017 Its never 0 chance no matter what you are sailing.But when you know only how to do one thing, and then you see that one thing isn't working all of a sudden, and you have no backup plan, then its not a games fault, its yours. Yeah sure. Let's play 1:1 me in Yamato, you in NC. Say, 10 battles, and guess the result (no offence) NC has no remedies against Yama, Yama can do whatever he wants, including penetrations from forbidden angles Backup plan is only like this: (or sit quiet and pretend you're not there = 0 dmg) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,375 battles Report post #15 Posted January 23, 2017 And that made you lose hope in humanity? Pff, I guess you are new to online gaming. Buckle up dude, you are in for a rough ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEWD] CLyDeThaMonKeY [LEWD] Beta Tester 436 posts 26,883 battles Report post #16 Posted January 23, 2017 I don't see any unusual stuff here. BBs reversing as far as they can is totally normal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #17 Posted January 23, 2017 Yeah sure. Let's play 1:1 me in Yamato, you in NC. Say, 10 battles, and guess the result (no offence) NC has no remedies against Yama, Yama can do whatever he wants, including penetrations from forbidden angles This game is not 1v1 and you know it. And as a NC you have more then enough tools to be useful when facing Yamato in enemy team. (No, you will not win in a 1v1 brawl, thats for sure) BUT, you have 13km concealment IIRC, so you can pop out of concealment to greet him with a friendly AP Freedom salvo when hes not properly angled to you. Or you can synergize with your cruisers by burning him to death with your HE. Or you can do this and that and bla bla bla. But what you should not be doing, is sitting bow on, not moving and thinking you are an unbeatable God allmighty because bow on tanking worked against Fuso, so thats only thing you have learned on "How to play NC 101". And that is exactly why I enjoy just charging down stationary bow on NC/Iowas and penning them trough the front, and watching them having no f***ing idea what to do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #18 Posted January 23, 2017 The match that made me lose hope in humanity. I agree. Those Red BBs around the B cap must have got lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominico Players 533 posts 2,226 battles Report post #19 Posted January 23, 2017 Whats worse is as a destroyer you are almost next to them.... There are 6 or 7 ships more advanced than you. As a destroyer you need to screen and lead. I now know why you get so many games with battleship players who "camp at the back" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #20 Posted January 23, 2017 Sometimes you just know the winter is coming. Like when half the nuBBs protect A line from white walkers. The more player influx the stronger the Black Guard. Remember those happy days when we had max 20k players in rush hours? I'd rather go with the Black Guard, as funny as they are at least there's something to prey upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #21 Posted January 23, 2017 Whats worse is as a destroyer you are almost next to them.... There are 6 or 7 ships more advanced than you. As a destroyer you need to screen and lead. I now know why you get so many games with battleship players who "camp at the back" Lead in a Kiev? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #22 Posted January 23, 2017 This game is not 1v1 and you know it. And as a NC you have more then enough tools to be useful when facing Yamato in enemy team. (No, you will not win in a 1v1 brawl, thats for sure) BUT, you have 13km concealment IIRC, so you can pop out of concealment to greet him with a friendly AP Freedom salvo when hes not properly angled to you. Or you can synergize with your cruisers by burning him to death with your HE. Or you can do this and that and bla bla bla. But what you should not be doing, is sitting bow on, not moving and thinking you are an unbeatable God allmighty because bow on tanking worked against Fuso, so thats only thing you have learned on "How to play NC 101". And that is exactly why I enjoy just charging down stationary bow on NC/Iowas and penning them trough the front, and watching them having no f***ing idea what to do Oh my. Sure it is not 1v1. But I have zero tools against Yamato, apart from avoiding him (or them, T10 players tend to division). But when I'm "being useful" elsewhere, I am still Yama beloved dmg source, because of guaranteed citadel (unlike ze Germanz most frequently met by Yamas these days). NC is not a Takao to make too much WASD hax... Yama range is what it is and you can receive a few 460mm projectiles from heavens at any time. Burning with HE, you say. Well, some kind of slowly shooting, not HE specialized, big, slow cruiser? Dealing ~5k with HE and getting 20-30k in return? Thanks, not attractive. Being charged at close range NC have no f***ing idea what to do, because there is nothing they can do. Any deviation from "bow-tanking" and NC gets not 10k, but 30-40k. Usually overextended NC is a result of either overaggressive push, or NC's "support" running away and leaving slowly backpedalling (and fighting) BB to die. Any T8 BB can charge at "bow-tanking" lone NC and win, I did this many times in Amagi (3 turrets in the back massacring broadside after turn) or even Scharnhorst (not full frontal approach, turret fast rotation+torps). And this is in an equal or lower tiered ship. What is so exciting in bashing NC with 460mm +2 tier Yama which just kills her through that bow in a few salvos while being impenetrable himself? And that is the problem. NC is nice ship, but needs support. In random games, usually you don't get any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warspite666 ∞ Beta Tester 172 posts 5,971 battles Report post #23 Posted January 24, 2017 Switch to fused HE, apply a good dose of fire and sail away laughing, so much for bow tankers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SinkTheOthersNotMe Players 440 posts 5,824 battles Report post #24 Posted January 24, 2017 NC is a very good ship and bow tanking is for certain situations, either when you have no other choice or when you are tanking for your team/division. A lone bow tanking NC = dead NC very fast A bow tanking NC with support (from div for example) = Tanks for the others This said the NC is at its best when at full or 3/4 speed and no a NC is not meat for the wolf for a yamato, had a NC the other day really being a pain for our yamato, NC well steered ofc who always managed to set the yamato on fire while at the same time hidding behind an island. In tier 10 battles NC makes a fine heavy cruiser (played in second line) whose broadside still can citadel T10 CA and still hurt a lot the BB. Much prefer to be in a NC in a tier 10 battles than in most other tier 8 ships, ofc my favorite is in a NO because it allows me to also kill DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karutapja Players 16 posts 1,548 battles Report post #25 Posted January 24, 2017 What is so satisfying in crushing the player who has zero chance vs you? +/-2 MM is the cancer of this game, and NC vs Yamato is very good example. Some time ago had a very disappointing match, what made me lose hope in humanity too... I was only T6 in T7/8 match and enemy team got a lead. 4 our vessels tried to get zone against same amount of enemy ships. Then, all of a sudden, all red ones started to hammer and chase me and had no interest to others or defend a zone!!! They (2 T8 BB-s, 1 T8 CA and 1 T7 BB) chased me almost to the end of the game! Of course they finally managed to sink me and of course they lost a game! What is this? To chase only low tier ship all game long and let rest of the team lose big time? Is it interesting? Or is it rewarding? WT*??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites