The main issue with RPF is ....

[ThePurpleSmurf]

After playing more than a dozen games (US DD only) on NA and EU i came to the conclusion that the main issue with RPF is that nobody knows what ship actually has this skill mastered. Usually it is a matter of pressing TAB key for 3 seconds to instantly see what ship has radar, which ship has hydro and it is easy to avoid them or kill them asap, so DDs can do their work. Not so with RPF, there is no hint whatsoever which ship detects me as DD with RPF and therefore can not be avoided or set as focus target to kill it asap.

WG officially stated on reddit, that this skill was introduced to get rid of the 'feeling helpless situations' for some ships. Funny enough they created an even more severe 'helpless situation' for anyone who is detected by RPF and the ships they actually think would need this skill, BBs that feel helpless against DDs, do not even make use of this skill but other ships do. The whole implementation as it is makes no sense.

WG, add some form of indicator in the scoreboard (TAB key) that clearly shows which ship has RPF skilled, so we have a counter to this fun and engaging new game mechanic.

 

Other than that i have noticed that RDF was so far in every game i played and i had several games where a friendly DD simply refused to go even near a cap if the 'detected' sign popped up on his screen. The psychologic effect of this skill already has a negative impact on the games that i've played so far.

 

Just one example what happened today right at the start of the game...

[Tyrendian89]

The main issue with RPF is ....

 

that waaaay too many people start their own threads about what the issues are in their opinion

[RobS80]

Personally I played 2 DD games yesterday in my Maas. I got lit up with RDF in the first one. I waited for something to happen, but no. I did have backup from a division mate so I was comfy to sit it out and see how bad it would be.

 

I can imagine the effect on an inexperienced soloplayer though.

 

A lot of them seem to think they get 'seen' with it though. Probably since it says detected and utterly flee. In a similar ish way to how some DDs when radar'd smoke up. Lack of knowledge of mechanics is pretty rife, even at higher tiers.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

 

that waaaay too many people start their own threads about what the issues are in their opinion

 

Which only shows the gravity of the issue that the players have with this skill. It's not only a bs skill that has more negative than positive impact on the gameplay, it also has NO counter - fair i guess.

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

that people suck and don't want to admit the skill is borderline useless.

[Corvi]

that people suck and don't want to admit the skill is borderline useless.

 

Well i got nuked a few times today already. Contesting cap against shimakaze, popping smoke as decoy, waiting quite far outside smoke, i get spotted by RFP, few seconds later the wall of skill is incoming directly at my position and nukes me. 

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

Corvi RPF isn't what got you killed, what killed you was the fact that you set a smoke screen on a cap you were trying to take giving away the fact you were there. Anyone, with or without RPF could have torped you, and for all you know, what if the DD/cruiser that torped you didn't have RDF. The Torps most likely weren't aimed well so they went off course or had the range to go behind the smoke, and you should have been more wary of incoming torps.

[Migulaitor]

 

Well i got nuked a few times today already. Contesting cap against shimakaze, popping smoke as decoy, waiting quite far outside smoke, i get spotted by RFP, few seconds later the wall of skill is incoming directly at my position and nukes me. 

 

OP RPF isn't what got you killed, what killed you was the fact you sat in a smoke screen on a cap you were trying to take. Anyone, with or without RPF could have torped you, and for all you know, what if the DD/cruiser that torped you didn't have RDF.

Btw, check Flamu and Notser guides for skills, a couple of potatos, 30% WR thats why they think its a good idea to use it 

 

[SirAmra]

that people suck and don't want to admit the skill is borderline useless.

 

So having a skill that tells u rougly where someone is trying to sneek up on u from stealth is useless?

Or that u actually left the smoke u popped and that smoke is safe?

Or u are the soul survivor of your team and everyone on the other team who has it knows where u are?

Yeah....it`s a useless skill. I`m sorry: Borderline useless

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

 

Btw, check Flamu and Notser guides for skills, a couple of potatos, 30% WR thats why they think its a good idea to use it 

 

Notser is an idiot. Flamu hides with his harem of followers on reddit, potato's just keep potatoing, and 30% peeps are the fuel for high damage games.

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

 

So having a skill that tells u rougly where someone is trying to sneek up on u from stealth is useless? - You can't see them sneaking up, but at the same time, you don't need RDF to stay wary and on the lookout for ambushes.

Or that u actually left the smoke u popped and that smoke is safe? -If you left the smoke, for all they know it might be one of your allies that came closer.

Or u are the soul survivor of your team and everyone on the other team who has it knows where u are? -If you are the soul surviver, one of several things will happen. A: You're being a coward and hiding. B: You try to Duke it out with the remaining enemies. C: You go and try to cap. Notice now, 2 of the 3 options will give your position away regardless. If you try and hide at the end of the game then you are a coward and should be sunk anyway.

Yeah....it`s a useless skill. I`m sorry: Borderline useless -Damn right it is.

 

[SirAmra]

 

 

OMG.

Lets try again.

If u sail a ship and I sail in my DD. U have the skill u will know from which direction I`m coming from since I`m the closest one to u. I doesn`t matter if I turn and go the other way....u will still know. Without that skill u won`t have a clue. Do u see the difference?

I`m a coward and what not.....it`s like talking to the kids. They don`t get the point either.

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

 

OMG.

Lets try again.

If u sail a ship and I sail in my DD. U have the skill u will know from which direction I`m coming from since I`m the closest one to u. I doesn`t matter if I turn and go the other way....u will still know. Without that skill u won`t have a clue. Do u see the difference?

I`m a coward and what not.....it`s like talking to the kids. They don`t get the point either.

 

I see it as if you are trying to sneak up on me, the instant you try to engage me with torps or guns, even if you remain unspotted, I'm still going to have a good idea of where you are at

[Migulaitor]

 

OMG.

Lets try again.

If u sail a ship and I sail in my DD. U have the skill u will know from which direction I`m coming from since I`m the closest one to u. I doesn`t matter if I turn and go the other way....u will still know. Without that skill u won`t have a clue. Do u see the difference?

I`m a coward and what not.....it`s like talking to the kids. They don`t get the point either.

 

Dont feed the troll, let it starve to death.

 

[SirAmra]

 

Dont feed the troll, let it starve to death.

 

 

Yeah. Just opened a beer.

[IntelligenceData]

Corvi RPF isn't what got you killed, what killed you was the fact that you set a smoke screen on a cap you were trying to take giving away the fact you were there. Anyone, with or without RPF could have torped you, and for all you know, what if the DD/cruiser that torped you didn't have RDF. The Torps most likely weren't aimed well so they went off course or had the range to go behind the smoke, and you should have been more wary of incoming torps.

 

OFC it was RL(former RPF) that got him killed!

It was't his smoke that gave away the fact he was there,it was the fact that he was caping lol. He laid smoke as a distraction for torps and without RL the enemy would have torped the smoke.But since the enemy had the RL skill he saw the indicator was not pointing at the smoke,so he knew Corvi wasn't sitting in the smoke. The enemy just had to launch torps in the direction of the RL indicator and gg. Corvi did it right and prior 0.6.0 he would have stayed alive and the enemy wasted his torps into the smoke.

RL is just retarded,a player should never get so much information out of one skill without doing anything for it. Amazing that there are still players out there who don't realize how broken this skill is!

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

 

Dont feed the troll, let it starve to death.

 

 

 

Yeah. Just opened a beer.

 

So both of you have your stats hidden, which is perfectly fine, but I'm going to assume for now you aren't the greatest of players. I can understand why people would be scared of RPF, but if you look at it with a bit of common sense, it's not bad, all the skill does is waste 4 points and give you information at that price you could obtain simply by watching the minimap. I say this because there are great skills across the board for all ships now, and taking rpf is taking away another 4 point skill, or a 3+1, or 2 2 point skills, all for information that can be obtained by watching the minimap and paying attention to the flow of the battle.

[Fog_Battleship_NCarolina]

 

OFC it was RL(former RPF) that got him killed!

It was't his smoke that gave away the fact he was there,it was the fact that he was caping lol. He laid smoke as a distraction for torps and without RL the enemy would have torped the smoke.But since the enemy had the RL skill he saw the indicator was not pointing at the smoke,so he knew Corvi wasn't sitting in the smoke. The enemy just had to launch torps in the direction of the RL indicator and gg. Corvi did it right and prior 0.6.0 he would have stayed alive and the enemy wasted his torps into the smoke.

RL is just retarded,a player should never get so much information out of one skill without doing anything for it. amazing that there are still players out there who don't realize how broken this skill is!

 

or the Torps were launched blindly on the cap and Corvi ate one because he wasn't paying attention?

[IntelligenceData]

 

or the Torps were launched blindly on the cap and Corvi ate one because he wasn't paying attention?

 

There is always the possibility of random torps,sure.But the above described scenario is typical for RL abuse,highly doubt the torps were random.I killed 3 DDs today using the RL indicator for my torps. They all died before they got spottet.

[SirAmra]

 

 

So both of you have your stats hidden, which is perfectly fine, but I'm going to assume for now you aren't the greatest of players. I can understand why people would be scared of RPF, but if you look at it with a bit of common sense, it's not bad, all the skill does is waste 4 points and give you information at that price you could obtain simply by watching the minimap. I say this because there are great skills across the board for all ships now, and taking rpf is taking away another 4 point skill, or a 3+1, or 2 2 point skills, all for information that can be obtained by watching the minimap and paying attention to the flow of the battle.

 

Here u go. My stats are open. Let me know when u are done fingering yourself so I can set it to private.

U assume all players in this game have tactical abilities. They don`t. And this skill gives them for free the same skill we have obtained by having brainactivity. Now a skilled player with this skill will have a field day with this. As we see and read more and more.

This will also be my last reply to u since u really don`t grasp the problem. Good bye.

[Catz_Are_Awesom_Siema_PL]

 

Well i got nuked a few times today already. Contesting cap against shimakaze, popping smoke as decoy, waiting quite far outside smoke, i get spotted by RFP, few seconds later the wall of skill is incoming directly at my position and nukes me. 

 

People need to adapt for this kind of meta change for DD's. I hate it too and wish it to be deleted, but all I can do is to keep abusing the skill and [edited]at the forums like everyone else. You just can't contest caps anymore if you don't have RL and hope the enemy DD's don't have it either

 

[Migulaitor]

[edited]

And no, you can not know when a dd is flanking if he is just positioning himself.

And if you are chasing a dd he will try to get an angle to torp you, impossible with the skill.

Just today I won a game with NO, no more radar, ahead on points and a tirpitz chasing me, I just kept turning around the island, with RPF telling me in wich direction to turn. Tell me, oooh great player, how could I have got this information from the minimap?

[ilhilh]

No need to bring click bait thread titles to the forums...

[Dominico]

there isn't really a problem like people feared!

 

There i finished your title.

[loppantorkel]

..I can't rush middle in 'two brothers' any more. thx a lot wg