cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #1 Posted January 19, 2017 Just a heads up for everyone, before you start training your captains for the new patch.WG spoiled us once again, and gave us a discount on captain skill redistribution, by lowering it to 1 doubloon so you can play around a bit with new skills and reset your commanders.They even gave us new missions in which you can earn 100 doubloons so you have enough resources to play with respecs. BUT! THE COST OF RESPECING IS 1 DOUBLOON PER SKILL POINT! That means, to respec your 10 point captain, you need 10 doubloons, to respec your max level (19 pt) captain, YOU NEED 19 DOUBLOONS. So think carefully before you use your points on your new captains, because, if you have a lot of ships with a lot of high level captains (I have 40 ships in port currently), you will need A LOT of doubloons to respec them if you are not happy with your first choice. Enjoy your "testing" with new captain skills for only 50 €... cheers 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #2 Posted January 19, 2017 Hear Hear. This patch is even worse "fluckup" than the whole santa convoy charade. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TKGL] Farnaby [TKGL] Beta Tester 4 posts 2,979 battles Report post #3 Posted January 19, 2017 Thanks for the heads up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #4 Posted January 19, 2017 Yeah it's funny, how they give us these great missions with 20 doubloons per nation to test builds and then it appears that you get only enough doubloons to reset one commander for the whole nation, despite how many ship lines and ships you have. WG logic, nothing surprises me anymore, really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #5 Posted January 19, 2017 Hear Hear. This patch is even worse "fluckup" than the whole santa convoy charade. At this point no, but it has the potential to become a $hitstorm of the same magnitude. In regards to OP, i have 170 ships in my port so i have not much room for error for my captain builds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #6 Posted January 19, 2017 The price is displayed right next to the respec-button. I haven't tried but I'm fairly certain you also get a Yes/No dialogue box pop-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCHood Players 268 posts Report post #7 Posted January 19, 2017 Thank you for letting us now. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,879 battles Report post #8 Posted January 19, 2017 I am thankful they did not put the whole 25 doubloons per point on us. Just be mindful how you spent your points and if you don't need to respec any captain at all, you basically win 100 doubloons at the end of the month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #9 Posted January 19, 2017 The price is displayed right next to the respec-button. I haven't tried but I'm fairly certain you also get a Yes/No dialogue box pop-up. Yes it is, but since they were saying something about dropping it to 1 doubloon, giving us missions for earning few doubloons to test things out, I was (maybe I was the only one, but I highly doubt it) thinking that for next few days, we will have 1 doubloon PER CAPTAIN respec cost, so we can try out few different builds on our ships. As it stands now, I guess a lot of my ships will gather rust in my port before I watch like 10 videos where someone else was willing to spend nice chunk of money to test things out... Anyway, just wanted to give people heads up in case they shared my toughts about 1DB/captain, so they don't have to waste their money, or they captains 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCHood Players 268 posts Report post #10 Posted January 19, 2017 I am thankful they did not put the whole 25 doubloons per point on us. Just be mindful how you spent your points and if you don't need to respec any captain at all, you basically win 100 doubloons at the end of the month. To this end, does anyone have a good link with reccomended builds per ship (well atleast the premiums) that can post? I'd really like atleast some basic builds "safe choice" to minimize the doubloon cost. I'm sure it could help other people too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted January 19, 2017 I doubt someone needs dozens of different setups. I have around 60 captains and will probably have around 12 different setups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #12 Posted January 19, 2017 I am thankful they did not put the whole 25 doubloons per point on us. Just be mindful how you spent your points and if you don't need to respec any captain at all, you basically win 100 doubloons at the end of the month. 7 wins per nation to get 20 doubloons that let you respec one commander. The average joe need what, 14 games for the 7 wins? This is 52 games (working folks often can not play more than 3-5 games per day) to earn 100 doubloons. This is a pretty crappy deals IMO. And you have to test or not play at all and wait until you assign your points from the reset right now, because there are many cases where even the hull of a ship, and with it a different gun caliber, make a complete different build necessary. They forced these new skills on us, so they should have said 'here guys, test this stuff for the next14 days, reset a commander is completely free during this time'. People with a lot of ships and not so much time to play and test will have a hard time to find a setup even within 14 days. Something that they should have done long time ago is to reset single skills. If i wanna change one tier 3 skills, why can i not simply reset this one tier 3 skill, pay the doubloons for these 3 points and assign them new? Do you change your whole car too if the ashtray if full? This is what this complete commander reset feels like just to swap around very few skill points. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Greyshark Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,315 posts Report post #13 Posted January 19, 2017 Yeah it's funny, how they give us these great missions with 20 doubloons per nation to test builds and then it appears that you get only enough doubloons to reset one commander for the whole nation, despite how many ship lines and ships you have. WG logic, nothing surprises me anymore, really. If I'm not mistaken, thay also gave you test server, where you could have tested all builds for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #14 Posted January 19, 2017 At this point no, but it has the potential to become a $hitstorm of the same magnitude. In regards to OP, i have 170 ships in my port so i have not much room for error for my captain builds. Wow! I'm SO happy to see I'm not the only nutcase with my 135 ships! Boy not looking forward to respeccing all those buggers. But on the other hand: it gives me the opportunity to "experiment" with skills in less important ships first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,879 battles Report post #15 Posted January 19, 2017 They forced these new skills on us, so they should have said 'here guys, test this stuff for the next14 days, reset a commander is completely free during this time'. People with a lot of ships and not so much time to play and test will have a hard time to find a setup even within 14 days. Of course there are far better option how they could have compensate us. But at least they did not go full greed-mode in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #16 Posted January 19, 2017 If I'm not mistaken, thay also gave you test server, where you could have tested all builds for free. Not everyone has the time to play on PTS, grind all the ships he has on live, especially since it overlapped with the oh so cool convoy mission that put quite some time pressure on people. Aside from this, PTS is not Live, skills change, circumstances are different and what do you personally guess how many of all the wows players actually make use of the PTS? 1%? 3%? But this skill overhaul and reset affect ALL the players, not the tiny amount of players that actually tested on PTS. You can not compare these two things and justify this screw up that WG did again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #17 Posted January 19, 2017 Of course there are far better option how they could have compensate us. But at least they did not go fullgreed-mode in this case. They didn't go full greed mode, but they went "don't play for next 10 days" mode... I can't put the same captain spec on my Chapayev and Des Moines for instance. I want to know is DE even worth it now. I want to know am I better off with Inertia Fuse on Chappy or not, etc etc etc. To give someone 20€ just to try that out? Nah... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #18 Posted January 19, 2017 It might have made sense if the mission for the 20 doubloons was repeatable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #19 Posted January 19, 2017 this respec is almost free, I have no complaints. They didn't go full greed mode, but they went "don't play for next 10 days" mode... I can't put the same captain spec on my Chapayev and Des Moines for instance. I want to know is DE even worth it now. I want to know am I better off with Inertia Fuse on Chappy or not, etc etc etc. To give someone 20€ just to try that out? Nah... Lets say all your captains are 15 points, you get over 33 respecs for 500 doubloons/2.25 €... sorry thats not even close to 20€ This has to be the biggest whiny circlejerk I've seen in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,879 battles Report post #20 Posted January 19, 2017 and what do you personally guess how many of all the wows players actually make use of the PTS? 1%? 3%? I did a couple of matches on the PTS, only a few for the rewards. But in general that is the reason why I also like how the community contributors feature the PTS more frequently now. They usually spent more time than me and have indeed more time to go really crazy on new builds or general mechanics (especially changes to them). Everyone can pick up some insights from these reviews. My advice in this case, to safe the doubloons: go only with those ships you are absolute certain you want to have that one particular build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOFI] SgtTincan Beta Tester 229 posts 13,259 battles Report post #21 Posted January 19, 2017 what happend to "free respecc since we rebuilt the entire skilltree" ..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #22 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) this respec is almost free, I have no complaints. Lets say all your captains are 15 points, you get over 33 respecs for 500 doubloons/2.25 €... sorry thats not even close to 20€ This has to be the biggest whiny circlejerk I've seen in a while. Go ahead throw money into their bag. On the last tree change they gave us doubloons along with the discount. Now they offer grinding... a kick in the nuts if you ask me. Luckily we have community contributors who help us out with the skill. Edited January 19, 2017 by nambr9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORCH] A_British_Hedgehog Beta Tester 50 posts 4,480 battles Report post #23 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Bump Important 'buy before you try'...I think that should have been the other way around... Edited January 19, 2017 by A_British_Hedgehog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Players 847 posts Report post #24 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) THE COST OF RESPECING IS 1 DOUBLOON PER SKILL POINT! Enjoy your "testing" with new captain skills for only 50 €... 1st: Reading patch notes helps. And WG never said anything else... 2nd: 500 Doublons cost 2,25 EUR and lets you reset 26 captains until the end of this month. Plus you can win 100 Doublons with gives you at least 5 resets. But yes, it's a wise hint to try out some skills with few captains and after that select skills for all the other commanders. Edited January 19, 2017 by anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #25 Posted January 19, 2017 This has to be the biggest whiny circlejerk I've seen in a while. I'm not whining you a$$hat, I'm just giving people a heads up. And as I said, I don't want to pay them to try out something they forced onto me. End of story... You want to? Cool, fine by me, your money, you can do whatever the heck you want with it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
