Official comment on possible BB limit.

[steviln]

 

Let me correct you, BB's are much easier to hit than cruisers if you are playing a BB. Cruisers need to get close and risk everything just for a salvo or two.

 

A cruiser does not need to go near a BB to hit it. It can spam the BB from long range, and the BB will have problem hitting back. 

[AgarwaenME]

 

I mean that the cruiser whiners will get their will, and get BBs nerfed rather than learn to play the game better? I did not like the DD nerfs, but I loved the CV nerfs, and I hope they nerf CVs even further,. 

 

You're just cute aren't you. You have no understanding whatsoever what whining like yours brought on, and how you now whine to try to avoid the consequences of the changes brought on by that whining.

 

You're just yet another potato who wants the game to change to fit your lacking ability. But guess what, you'll still be a potato.

[CleverViking]

A cruiser does not need to go near a BB to hit it. It can spam the BB from long range, and the BB will have problem hitting back. 

 

The difference is that 1 hit (one shell), can ruin an entire match for a cruiser.

 

To set a BB on fire you'll most likely need a few volleys before you even get 1, then some more for 2. Then he's going to repair making you start over again.

All this takes time, time in which the cruiser likely does not have stealth and even 1 hit can take of over half your health. 

 

Sure, cruisers aren't meant to counter BBs. But they have to kill them in the current meta since it's just about the most common ship type in higher tiers. 

[steviln]

 

You're just cute aren't you. You have no understanding whatsoever what whining like yours brought on, and how you now whine to try to avoid the consequences of the changes brought on by that whining.

 

You're just yet another potato who wants the game to change to fit your lacking ability. But guess what, you'll still be a potato.

 

Yes, but it seems that the earn more money from poor players like me, so the adapt the game more and more to us anyway What do you think whining like mine bought on?

[AgarwaenME]

 

Yes, but it seems that the earn more money from poor players like me, so the adapt the game more and more to us anyway What do you think whining like mine bought on?

 

It brought on making the game simpler to cater to potatoes like you. You're a McDonalds player, so of course you don't mind simple drek aslong as you get it cheaply and easily.

[steviln]

 

The difference is that 1 hit (one shell), can ruin an entire match for a cruiser.

 

To set a BB on fire you'll most likely need a few volleys before you even get 1, then some more for 2. Then he's going to repair making you start over again.

All this takes time, time in which the cruiser likely does not have stealth and even 1 hit can take of over half your health. 

 

Sure, cruisers aren't meant to counter BBs. But they have to kill them in the current meta since it's just about the most common ship type in higher tiers. 

 

But if the few good hits BBs get on crusier does not get good damage, the cruisers kan just slowly burn the BBs to death. When it comes to the patch, I am a bit concerned about the nerf to fire in addition to the radio positioning skill. I do however hate CVs with a vengeance, but I did not like all the DD nerfs that have been for the past year.

[steviln]

 

It brought on making the game simpler to cater to potatoes like you. You're a McDonalds player, so of course you don't mind simple drek aslong as you get it cheaply and easily.

 

I do not like McDonalds, but I eat frozen pizza for dinner each day How do you mean the game have been simpler by the CV nerfs?

[ClappingLollies]

 

It is fine. And I can say that even as a Cruiser and a DD player. 

 

As a DD - it's hunting season

As a Cruiser - load HE and burn them all. Tons of damage = tons of credits and XP.

 

Besides, in current meta they all camp on borders / behind islands.

 

As I said - DDs are problem.

 

 

Too many BBs and no CVs is the problem. It's such a big problem that many of us DD/CL/CA players actually have to resort to HE spamming. Nowadays i just do it to piss off BBs. Why play the objective? Seeing that most of the team is having lunch behind an island at B-7. You can see that it's going to be a loss or a lazy win, and you just farm fire DMG and torp DMG. Again it's not DDs, CLs or CAs that is the problem. It's to many BBs and pretty much no CVs.

 

I'll happily spot, cap, smoke and support when i get some help pushing caps and so forth, But until then. HE spam it is. 

 

[steviln]

Too many BBs and no CVs is the problem. It's such a big problem that many of us DD/CL/CA players actually have to resort to HE spamming. Nowadays i just do it to piss off BBs. Why play the objective? Seeing that most of the team is having lunch behind an island at B-7. You can see that it's going to be a loss or a lazy win, and you just farm fire DMG and torp DMG. Again it's not DDs, CLs or CAs that is the problem. It's to many BBs and pretty much no CVs.

 

I'll happely spot, cap, smoke and support when i get some help pushing caps and so forth, But until then. HE spam it is. 

 

 

No, the problem is still to many CVs

[Elenortirion]

 

No, the problem is still to many CVs

 

not sure if trolling or.....

[FaceFisted]

 

No, the problem is still to many CVs

 

I agree with this!

 

jk

 

CVs are fine as they are now. Before they were rebalanced, they ruined every match. Nothing could have countered them properly except other CV, but that led a team to rely on someone who was quite possibly far below average. I hated those matches with OP CVs as much as I hated constant shima torp spam. They were all nerfed for a good reason.

 

CV's don't need nerfs or buffs atm, but... let's wait and see how much did new skills changed everything. 

 

 

But, really - what is problem with BBs? Most of you who complain don't know how to counter them or what?

[CleverViking]

But, really - what is problem with BBs? Most of you who complain don't know how to counter them or what?

 

The problem isn't so much the BBs in themselves but the quantity of BBs in matches.

[El2aZeR]

not sure if trolling or.....

 

His reasoning to remove CVs is that he and the majority of the playerbase are too stupid to evade CVs.

Take from that what you will.

[Hades_warrior]

Nope they are not planing on hard cap , rather "nerfing" and "rebalancing" so less players play BB

 

 

And that ofc wont happen. I doubt any current BB player will quit the line just because of whiners.

 

 

I hope we do get a limit on BB's. I play BB's, I like them, but too many of them is a bad thing 

 

Not as bad as 4-5 DD's per one team.

As far as I know BB's are the closest to definition of ''warship'' term, which this game contains in the title.

[CleverViking]

As far as I know BB's are the closest to definition of ''warship'' term, which this game contains in the title.

 

Sort of a derail, but a "warship" is just a ship designed for naval warfare. A ship used for war, i.e. a warship. 

 

Don't discount other classes. "It's not the size of the ship but how you use it" 

[FaceFisted]

 

The problem isn't so much the BBs in themselves but the quantity of BBs in matches.

 

I still don't see how is that a problem. They are easily countered, but as I said problem is influx of campers. WG will never be able to change that. As game becomes more popular it will become worse. WG doesn't need to change anything, players will change it as they have changed it now. Same thing happened in WOT, WOWP and will happen here.

 

Enjoy it while it lasts. Again talking from experience. 

[Gunship14]

 

The problem isn't so much the BBs in themselves but the quantity of BBs in matches.

 

Can't be bothered to find it now, but that's exactly what many of us were saying a long time ago, when seeing 4-5 Shimas in a team was a common occurrence. The shima was never OP on its own, the threat of 4 of them was, however, a major issue and made the game come to a halt.

 

Of course, WG went ahead and nerfed all IJN DDs to the ground. Having a limit on BBs and DDs, and no limit on CAs would solve a lot of problems without making whole lines neigh unplayable.

 

EDIT : Oh and we used to get flamed for voicing our concerns about the number of DDs.

[AgarwaenME]

 

 

Not as bad as 4-5 DD's per one team.

As far as I know BB's are the closest to definition of ''warship'' term, which this game contains in the title.

 

Why on earth would more BBs not be just as bad, or worse, than the ship class that not just were far more numerous IRL, but that WG also said they tried to design to be more common when they made the game?

 

Nevermind how laughable it is to claim that only BBs are "warships". More than that, it's shitting all over those who (while outnumbering people serving on BBs by thousands to one) served on not just cruisers or destroyers, but smaller classes of ships (while outnumbering people serving on BBs by thousands to one).

[Hades_warrior]

"It's not the size of the ship but how you use it" 

 

Is this the matter of sex?

[Bladezfist]

I'm not sure I agree with capping DD numbers as well, it's an issue when you get a game like that but DDs rebalance each other within the first 5 minutes of the match and games like this are rare, where as it is rare to join a game that does not have 5 BBs at T8+. I'm not sure I want the numbers of every ship to always be the same (which is what we currently have with 5 BBs a game so limiting them does not really change that) 

[steviln]

 

not sure if trolling or.....

 

Have you ever imagined that people can actually disagree with your opinion?

[Raziel_Walker]

I'd rather face 6 BB as 5 DD in my games.

[tajj7]

You mean the cruisers than can fire at you from 20km with devastating HE salvos and that can change direction 4 times before your shells reach them at that distance making them near impossible to hit, or god forbit, even be completely invisible while doing so ?

 

Cos every cruiser is a Zao? Which I'd like to point out not only has stealth fire ability, very high fire chance, and good AP, but also has strong and troll armour for a cruiser so it's survivability is quite high. 

 

Are people honestly still whining about fires? Cos for most BBs it'll take a long while for one cruiser to burn down a BB at long range, I followed a Colorado around in my Budyonny the other day, sapmming him with HE from max range and got multiple fires, kiting, changing speed and he fired one salvo from his rear turret and took 80% of my HP, whilst I'd barely taken 30% of his from 100s of hits cos he'd repaired most of it.

 

Fires should be a legitimate threat to BBs, but let's not try to pretend they are OP or anything when BBs have like twice the HP of Cruisers and a heal that is able to 100% repair all fire damage. 

[The_Great_SCH]

Make MM great again! Seriously, they should do something about the player quality in matches, rather than nerfing everything to the ground. All these nerfes just take away from the quality of the game, making it more and more P2W (because premium don't get direct nerfs). 

 

They have to make changes so the game remains action-packed and fun to play, not inceasing dispersion and you get frustrated that every 30 seconds you miss your target, or nerf torp speed and every 1,5 minute you get frustrated because your torps get spotted on launch and that's that. 

 

This game needs skill balancing not ship-type balancing.