[YEET] _KEANO_ Players 55 posts 18,887 battles Report post #1 Posted January 17, 2017 So am I correct in understanding that as I am currently up to the kiev, with around 100k XP after tree split i will be 100k towards the Khab? Has there been any info on the new Russian Tier X DD? Also will the kiev be changing if moving up 2 tiers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #2 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) So am I correct in understanding that as I am currently up to the kiev, with around 100k XP after tree split i will be 100k towards the Khab? Has there been any info on the new Russian Tier X DD? Also will the kiev be changing if moving up 2 tiers? Kiev will be buffed back to tier 9 (as in internal pre-alpha test) That is the new tier X project 40N Grovonoi : 3 x 2 130 mm guns and 2 x 5 torps Displacement: -2,890 tons – standard4,090 tons – full load Dimensions: -Length – 135 mBeam – 13.5 mDraft – 3.87 m Propulsion system: -2 GTZA geared steam turbines, 4 or 6 water-tube boilers2 propeller shafts powered by a total 72,000 – 81,200 shp Top speed: 36 – 40 knots Armaments: - Project 40N3 x 2 – 130mm/57 SM-2-1 twin DP gun turrets6 x 2 – 45mm/78 SM-16 heavy twin AA gun mounts (originally)[Modified]4 x 4 – 45mm/78 SM-20-ZIF heavy quad AA gun mounts -or-4 x 4 – 57mm/78 ZIF-75 heavy quad AA gun mounts -&-2 x 2 – 57mm/78.7 ZIF-31 heavy twin AA gun mounts2 x 4 – 25mm/79 4M-120 light AA gun mounts2 x 5 – 533mm 53-56 13.0km torpedoes -Upgrade-2 x 5 – 533mm 53-57 18.0km submarine torpedoes Edited January 17, 2017 by Darth_Glorious 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SNUBS] Bademeister02 Beta Tester 110 posts 3,805 battles Report post #3 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) If WG will handle this split like any other split before then you will get your Kiev replaced by the new T7 DD "Minsk". Of course your Captain will be retrained to the new ship and your xp (the 100k you were speaking of) will be transfered to the Minsk. That means that after the split you will still be at T7, just with a new ship. The new Kiev at T9 will surely be changed to fit into the higher tier bracket and the stronger opponents. I cant say how much she will be buffed, but i bet she will be. Cant say anything about the new T10 though. Edit: ninjaed^^ Edited January 17, 2017 by Bademeister02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #4 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Well, Kiev is originally balanced at tier 9 in pre-alpha test so they just need to switch back to its old stats. Edited January 17, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] _KEANO_ Players 55 posts 18,887 battles Report post #5 Posted January 17, 2017 18km submarine torpedos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2OP] Beardroid91 Players 357 posts 13,853 battles Report post #6 Posted January 17, 2017 Just bought the Kiev and Ognevoi yesterday as an investment as both of them gets moved 2 tiers up and gets more valuable, so would be stupid not to buy them now before the new split happens. And the Kiev was insanely strong back when it was released so they had to nerf it very hard and since then it wasn't really that fun to play. But it'll be interesting to see how much they buff the Kiev and what new goodies it get. And to be honest i think the Gnevny being moved from tier 5 to 6 is abit bad unless they give it more them 4 km torps, might become similar to the Anshan now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #7 Posted January 17, 2017 Well, the Gnevny always looked and felt a little too modern for T5, plus with possible soft stat or other buffs she could turn out more enjoyable a tier higher. I'm moderately hyped for the split, I enjoy the playstyle and the ships look nice, Kiev being at T9 makes more chronological sense and we get a non-premium Leningrad class to boot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #8 Posted January 17, 2017 Well, the Gnevny always looked and felt a little too modern for T5, plus with possible soft stat or other buffs she could turn out more enjoyable a tier higher. I'm moderately hyped for the split, I enjoy the playstyle and the ships look nice, Kiev being at T9 makes more chronological sense and we get a non-premium Leningrad class to boot! Half sister to the Leningrad if I remember correctly, actually. The main difference was the size though (most likely won't have that aft double 76mm either). And then there's that headscratcher of the new tier five. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #9 Posted January 17, 2017 Half sister to the Leningrad if I remember correctly, actually. The main difference was the size though (most likely won't have that aft double 76mm either). And then there's that headscratcher of the new tier five. I don't know if they dug up an actual project number for it but the profile and construction are similar to Leningrad, looks to be a preliminary of some sort, weaker to fit the lower tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #10 Posted January 17, 2017 I don't know if they dug up an actual project number for it but the profile and construction are similar to Leningrad, looks to be a preliminary of some sort, weaker to fit the lower tier. Indeed, possibly with smaller guns too. Those look too small compared with the rest of her to be 130mm guns to me.. Unless she's the size of a light cruiser of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X_MonsterMilkMan_X Players 29 posts 1,749 battles Report post #11 Posted January 17, 2017 Kiev will be buffed back to tier 9 (as in internal pre-alpha test) That is the new tier X project 40N Grovonoi : 3 x 2 130 mm guns and 2 x 5 torps Displacement: -2,890 tons – standard4,090 tons – full load Dimensions: -Length – 135 mBeam – 13.5 mDraft – 3.87 m Propulsion system: -2 GTZA geared steam turbines, 4 or 6 water-tube boilers2 propeller shafts powered by a total 72,000 – 81,200 shp Top speed: 36 – 40 knots Armaments: - Project 40N3 x 2 – 130mm/57 SM-2-1 twin DP gun turrets6 x 2 – 45mm/78 SM-16 heavy twin AA gun mounts (originally)[Modified]4 x 4 – 45mm/78 SM-20-ZIF heavy quad AA gun mounts -or-4 x 4 – 57mm/78 ZIF-75 heavy quad AA gun mounts -&-2 x 2 – 57mm/78.7 ZIF-31 heavy twin AA gun mounts2 x 4 – 25mm/79 4M-120 light AA gun mounts2 x 5 – 533mm 53-56 13.0km torpedoes -Upgrade-2 x 5 – 533mm 53-57 18.0km submarine torpedoes those 18KM torps will break completely break the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #12 Posted January 17, 2017 those 18KM torps will break completely break the game That assumes she will get them in game, which remains to be seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #13 Posted January 17, 2017 those 18KM torps will break completely break the game Torpedo ranges are nowhere near reality in game... and that is rather good... I do not want to know, how the game would look like, if Type 93 Mark III torpedoes would have their historical 30 km range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #14 Posted January 17, 2017 Aren't the main guns on that new T10 the 100mm secondaries on the Kutuzov? Seems Akizuki was an experiment for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #15 Posted January 17, 2017 Aren't the main guns on that new T10 the 100mm secondaries on the Kutuzov? Seems Akizuki was an experiment for this. These are more like 130mm/58 in SM-2-1 turrets. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_51-58_m1957.htm Spec wise, they seems to be flat out improvement over existing 130mm guns. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #16 Posted January 17, 2017 These are more like 130mm/58 in SM-2-1 turrets. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_51-58_m1957.htm Spec wise, they seems to be flat out improvement over existing 130mm guns. Yup, my bad, I saw the turrets looked similar and didn't read the stats. They do look good though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #17 Posted January 17, 2017 Aren't the main guns on that new T10 the 100mm secondaries on the Kutuzov? Seems Akizuki was an experiment for this. That's what I thought at first as well, but what Pano linked is what seems to be correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #18 Posted January 17, 2017 those guns do looks really really nasty the question tho,why would you play the Z-52 over this thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #19 Posted January 17, 2017 ¿New tier V premium? (from the offical WG Facebook). This thing is nasty: 7 guns and 12 torpedos. Tier V Derzki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #20 Posted January 17, 2017 I'd wait to see the range of said guns and torpedoes before counting her as something that great. Also, yeesh, that gun arrangement is horrid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2OP] Beardroid91 Players 357 posts 13,853 battles Report post #21 Posted January 18, 2017 That tier V Okhotnik ship is just crazy long, like what happened there, well i tell you, simple answer .. Too much vodka and someones said it had to have many guns - usefulness of said guns was and will be an after thought of the drunken haze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #22 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) ¿New tier V premium? (from the offical WG Facebook). This thing is nasty: 7 guns and 12 torpedos. Tier V Derzki It has the same Krasny Krym guns with very slow reloading time and gun traverse Edited January 18, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #23 Posted January 18, 2017 It has the same Krasny Krym guns with very slow reloading time and gun traverse Yeah, and the torps maybe would be the slow-low damage ones on Derzki and Izyaslav, but the ship itself is very troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HULK] warmi77777 Players 7 posts 21,206 battles Report post #24 Posted January 18, 2017 those 18KM torps will break completely break the game No will break the game -18 km torp - 45kt -http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/HH14%20-%20Type%2053.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #25 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) New russian DD stats are available. https://gamemodels3d.com/worldofwarships/?version=test Torps stats : - 10 km range, 65kt speed, 129s reloading time, 1,3 km detection range for Grozovoi - 8 km range, 66 kt speed, 129s reloading time, 1,4 km detection range for Udaloi - 10km range, 56 kt 69s, reloading time 1,1 km detection range for Ognevoi The new DD line has DF AA consummables (30s active, 120s cooldown) - Minsk has 4km range torps only, still worse than Leningrad - Okhotnik (tier 5 pre DD) : + 7 guns (1900 HE / 2500 AP / 10s reloading time / 36 s for 180 deg rotation) + 4 x 3 torps with 13866 dmg. 4,5 km range, 62 kt speed and 47s reloading time Edited January 19, 2017 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
