[MA-GE] T3ddyBear Beta Tester 298 posts 12,764 battles Report post #51 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) There's no point in writing much more on the forums, RDF is coming, it will be in the game regardless of what the vast majority of the forumites think. Unfortunately those that care about the game and want to improve both the game and their game play will visit these forums, unfortunately, the vast majority never come to the forums, ever. The only way to make WG take a step back is to stop playing and stop paying, when the server that brings in the most revenue per user suddenly dries up, then they may stop to think for more than a second. Unfortunately, again, this won't happen, most here will carry on playing and adapt accordingly. WG rely on this inertia, WG rely on our desire to play these sorts of games. To be really effective, 2 things have to happen; 1. For every forumite here to stop spending money with WG, keep the servers busy but with ZERO revenue coming in. 2. For the Community Contributors to stop making their "content", essentially stopping the "free advertising" WoWS receives. Reduce it's exposure and the rate of new players slows and maybe, just maybe WG wake up. It's not going to happen though, so bite the bullet and get on with it. Harrier. Edited January 16, 2017 by HarrierUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #52 Posted January 16, 2017 In short, it means replacing true player skill with a game mechanic. I think we must assume that this is a conscious decision by WG. That is their prerogative. Personally, I think it's the wrong decision, but there you are. Ofc it is, because WG wants more new player retention and they seem to have data this isn't happening. Coupled with ' newbies ' coming on forums complaining about ' OP this and OP that ' and accusing whole game to be full of cheaters WG thinks making the game easier to play for those people will result in a larger player base. I think it's a bad road to go on, and that it will results in less overall player retention. You can dumb down a game to keep new/bad players happy, but it's the good players, those who spend some effort into learning the game, who have invested in it more and are therefore more likely to stay around and spend money on the game. The ' casuals' will wander off the ' next new thing ' when that comes along and it will end up like WoWp. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] Dirty_Filthy_Scrublord Beta Tester 110 posts 15,245 battles Report post #53 Posted January 16, 2017 Uh... why does it have to send? RDF just picks up radio signals (like situational awareness imho) and evaluates the direction the signal comes from. The concept you describe seems more like hydro-acoustic search where both ships hit each other with their pings. However, if both ships have hydro with the same range they spot each other anyway. The point is that if you have the skill you can locate and be located as the closest ship, however if you do not take the skill you cannot be located as the closest ship. You have to choose to have the advantage of knowing roughly where the closest ship is as well as the disadvantage that the enemy can also locate you as the closest ship. Gives you the choice, and choice is good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUPID] AndyTheCupid Community Contributor 310 posts 31,868 battles Report post #54 Posted January 16, 2017 I've spent a fair bit of cash on this game, but if this change comes in not another penny will be spent. That works out ok for me as I now have enough premium ships and will happily grind captains in them rather than shed out more cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #55 Posted January 16, 2017 90% of the player base responding to this poll http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/71283-implementation-of-rdf/ are unhappy with RDF in its current form wrong 90% of players who find and use the forum and found that specific thread within the dozend threads about RPF and bothered enough to vote. do not exaggerate your opinion only because there are some other people crying with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #56 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) wrong 90% of players who find and use the forum and found that specific thread within the dozend threads about RPF and bothered enough to vote. do not exaggerate your opinion only because there are some other people crying with you Thank you for the correction. Have i offended you? I know it is hard to infer tone when typing, but you seem quite harsh? I think you may misunderstand me though, and i am certainly not crying In the poll i linked, i actually voted yes to the implementation, and explained my reasons for doing so. So what am i exaggerating exactly? Edited January 16, 2017 by mikelight1805 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #57 Posted January 16, 2017 This is just another unnecessary and utterly useless thread about RPF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #58 Posted January 16, 2017 If it is so pointless, why are you wasting your time here talking to me about it then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #59 Posted January 16, 2017 Glad I found me some other online games to play. This game gets less appealing by every update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #60 Posted January 16, 2017 I wonder if this RPF thing will really help player retention. The first thing I'll do when it comes live, will be to give it to my Tenryu, Phoenix and Murmansk captains and mercilessly hunt down and murder newbies in DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #61 Posted January 16, 2017 See my signature for my view on RPF, including (not my idea) a suggestion of how it could be made worse. TLDR version: I don't want it, but IF they implement it, against all our objections, it will be a slightly smaller pile of excrement if they allow us to turn our radio off. Feedback is overwhelmingly negative, not just here, but also on the other servers:On the NA server, a quick google search reveals that feedback is also overwhelmingly negative. On the RU server, at least in the subforum for the current round of testing, most people don't talk about it at all, a few don't mind/don't think it'll do much, and a few think it is bad, but in the end, a poll shows that about 75 percent rejects the new skill tree and that is a poll from the second round of testing. From what I can see on the Asian server, feedback is not much better. If they push this through.. It would be very bad, even if just from a customer relations point of view. We shall see next Thursday, 0.6.0 will go live on EU then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #62 Posted January 16, 2017 wrong 90% of players who find and use the forum and found that specific thread within the dozend threads about RPF and bothered enough to vote. do not exaggerate your opinion only because there are some other people crying with you You don't happen to play more BB's then other classes, and thus be the least affected by this game breaking new ' addition ' WG is spoiling us with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] xxNihilanxx Beta Tester 2,018 posts 13,254 battles Report post #63 Posted January 16, 2017 wrong 90% of players who find and use the forum and found that specific thread within the dozend threads about RPF and bothered enough to vote. do not exaggerate your opinion only because there are some other people crying with you And here we have someone who doesn't understand the concept of "representative". Didn't you ever wonder how they got the viewing figures for a TV show even though nobody had ever asked you what you watch? The answer is they have a small number of people who give these figures and then extrapolate the percentages as a whole. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MNF] Littlepea Players 305 posts 14,197 battles Report post #64 Posted January 17, 2017 Just boycott the first 24h after the release of 0.6.0. If we do it massively, maybe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites