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This game has become unplayable, no more strategy

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I have to agree with OP on the "hundreds of aim assist users" 

To say something like "do you have evidence for that?" implies that you are just plain and simply ignorant or are using aim assist your self.

as for evidence, I can install aim assist at any time I want. If I can do it (imagine how much higher my stats would be if I did) then I have to assume that many others will actually do it.

Wargaming did an excellent job of taking out and punishing aim assist users but the very nature of how these third party mods work means they can't get them all.

 

So... there's often between 20k to 30k players online.

"hundreds" - so between 200 to 999 - might be aim assist users.

Lets assume the lowest number of players and the hightest number of cheaters = 999 aim assist users among 20k players.

That would mean about 5% of the players online using some aim assist.

There are 24 players in a battle. Statistically 1.2 (= 5%) of them would use aim assist. Alas, they might be on your team.

Considering how bad the aim assists that were shown on this forum were, the advantage to this one player per game would be neglectable. Especially, if there are some really skilled players in the teams, who shoot better than any noob with an aim assist mod...

 

And considering the "lucky shots" I managed to make at maximum distance... targets behind islands... invisible targets in smoke... invisible targets that just had been there a second ago, sailing straight and have to be right THERE now - boom! might look to others like someone using an aim mod. It just isn't... it's just experience working. And regular offerings of virgins, goats and virgin goats to RNGesus

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What do you think why napolion lost his battle at waterloo? I give you a small tip (flank atack)
 

So tell me nothing about strategy, I'm not a good player but I must not be taught by even worse or 20 years younger players :)

 

I will not fight with you. I want constructive criticism! And I will not teach anyone here and I apologize for my bad english

 

 

 

 

So you want what instead? A lemming train?

 

If anyone is teaching someone here anything, you are surely not the lecturer and it would do you good to realize that, that is if you have any intention of actually getting better at the game (which I honestly don't expect to be the case since you went to the forum just to complain about how things don't go your way ... oh look what was bullet point #3 again; the irony).

 

If you want constructive criticism, you best change that attitude of yours and start by actually questioning what you might be doing wrong rather than just whining, brushing over "hundreds" of players that may just simply be better than you as cheaters and listing your personal pet peeves irregardless of them actually making sense or not. If you can't provide a halfway decent basis to criticise there's nothing anyone can help you with.

 

I do not have to prove to anyone the earth is round or? And everyone who says there are no hundreds of cheaters is naive or cheating himself !!!  Those are the people who lie to their wife at home I am not foreign :)

 

If you accuse someone of cheating, you better have proof for that. If you don't, the one who is lying is you and no one else. Right now you just sound like a n00b who's to full of himself (Dunning-Kruger effect says hi) and looking for excuses for why reality isn't bending to your will.

 

Git gud!

 

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since WoWs does not have a campaign mode allowing us to fight full wars, there never was any "strategy' in the game in the first place

 

OP may be thinking of tactics, but these still exist....

 

and a+b/b+c is not "camping" it's quite reliable tactic to win as long as executed properly...

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All i can find are aim assist mods from beginning of last year. And sites that want me to download world of warships - aim assist mp3s :hmm: Shooting halfway accurate in this game isn't even hard. All it takes is that Notser video how the dynamic crosshair works and some practice. 

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1. wide drive or not you get some random damage

 

wut?

 

2. beginner play hight Tier only a + b or b + c (full camping)

 

Concentrating on two caps wins games..... :facepalm:

 

3. insults or whining in any game

 

because of bad players

 

4. more and more experienced players can or do not want to play anymore

 

Really? Any source? Might be true, I mean gameplay/teamwork has gotten less with influx off new people.

 

5. But we are getting more and more new ships for what?

 

Since when is new ships a bad thing? 

 

6. since August last year it is only downhill

 

On some aspects yes, see point 4

 

7. Test server for what? 90% of the testers are of the opinion that something does not fit crapno matter what WG make and get money from us

 

'To provide statistics' ... not that I agree, I mean WG couldn't actually implement RDF after all the negative feedback they been given right..... right?

 

8. Hundreds of aim assist cheaters

 

Proof or GTFO. This is said by baddies and/or trolls.

 

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as for evidence, I can install aim assist at any time I want. If I can do it (imagine how much higher my stats would be if I did) then I have to assume that many others will actually do it.

 

crapthere goes my previous statement... :hiding:

 

Either way, I do not think aim assist is a thing right now. I haven't seen anyone posting links to ' paid for cheats '  in a long time ( and this was generally done to ensure more people knew about them.. or in some cases to scam people as the ' payed versions ' were nothing but a hoax ), and in game I only met ONE person which I found very suspicious in his aiming ( 75% wr + BB only + 35-40% hit ratio.. and that's including German BB's which he was shooting me with from 19km and landing shots when evading/kiting, in multiple games ). 

 

And if there were any free aim assists they would be known on this forum, as we/community despises this and would demand WG to ' fix it ' . 

 

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Lemming train mentioned here is something that people in general seem to dislike. Still, when a lemming train drives into a scattered flock of chickens, imho the latter get railroaded by the former.

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Lemming train mentioned here is something that people in general seem to dislike. Still, when a lemming train drives into a scattered flock of chickens, imho the latter get railroaded by the former.

 

Problem is that my team often likes a lemming train in a standard battle. Despite my protestations one sheep follows another leaving the enemy to sail into our cap behind the flock with only me in the way.Just so funny to see a slow BB try to make it across the map, having not got himself in range of anyone for the whole battle only to have to turn back to defend from the direction that he should have sailed if only he had a brain. He then gets sunk because he is fighting 6 ships on his own

Lemming trains are not good, when I see my team doing it, it usually ends in a loss.

 

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Lemming train mentioned here is something that people in general seem to dislike. Still, when a lemming train drives into a scattered flock of chickens, imho the latter get railroaded by the former.

 

That is assuming the players in that lemming train are smart enough to use their concentrated firepower and push onwards to preserve the momentum to pick apart the extended enemy line.

 

I have yet to see a single lemming train doing that. More often than not they just huddle up together after a single destroyer scared them with some torps.

 

Concentration of firepower and numbers sounds neat in theory and could definately work in practice on some maps and game modes, but sadly the kind of players that are prone to such have no clear intention of anything like this. It's just plain herd mentality and as soon as they start getting some return fire, the shuffle back because something might scratch their pretty ship ...

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Concentration of firepower does work in practice.

 

Yes, understandably without concentration of firepower a lemming train is the WoWS equivalent of a carnival duck shoot.

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Are you for real with this aim assist BS? Let me laugh, barely anyone bothers coding a cheat for a game like this, especially since it's so low skill cap. I understand if it was for games like CS:GO or LoL, but not for WoWs.

 

Let me roast this guy, because it feels like he really needs it:

I do not have to prove to anyone the earth is round or? And everyone who says there are no hundreds of cheaters is naive or cheating himself !!!  Those are the people who lie to their wife at home I am not foreign :)

 

So tell me nothing about strategy, I'm not a good player but I must not be taught by even worse or 20 years younger players :)

 

I will not fight with you. I want constructive criticism! And I will not teach anyone here and I apologize for my bad english


Condescending, hypocritical and delusional. Making a claim like "there is hundreds of cheaters!" without ANY evidence at all and claiming anyone who doesn't agree with you is cheating himself is ... hm, how to best explain it. Let's turn it around maybe?

"There are barely any cheaters and anyone who thinks otherwise just sucks at the game and wants to put the blame on something other than their own lack of skill."

 

So anyone disagreeing with you is not constructive criticism? Obviously, I mean if I was completely delusional I would disregard everything that doesn't fit my agenda as well. That's not how it works though. Constructive criticism doesn't mean "stuff that agrees with you", it means critique that helps improve what it criticizes, and that is best done by pointing out flaws, not by agreeing on the parts that are correct.

 

"20 years younger" means for you "something", for us that reads like you are some 40 year old guy, who can't even properly write english (I'm german myself) and simply disregards not just anyone who doesn't agree with him, but also everyone who is younger because someone younger can't possibly be smarter or know more, right? Or you're just trying to sound older than you are, either way, saying something like that doesn't help your course.

 

Most players here are far more experienced and better than you in the game, so maybe take some advice from them. I can't understand how someone with 400 battles in ARIZONA, the super accurate cruiser-bane of T6 can talk about aim assist? It's ships like that I get accused of cheating in, because some poor potato cruiser showed broadside at 10km. And that must be happening to you too, since you're not actually bad at the game.

 

So what is it? If you land a good hit it's skill and if anyone else does it's aim assist?

 

I don't like going full ad hominem here, but this just called for it.

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...but can you really? A quick search on the internet shows that none are available for the current version. I am not baiting for a link. I believe the aimbots are broken since long.

 

Yes you can aimbot, you can get one online or you can write one since for some its not that hard. 

Its really one of those issues WG will never solve because... Niche games don't take priority over super important WoT. 

 

Also a while back i found a mod that i thought was dead but it still working.. shell prediction, i mean really? Is it that hard not to move in a straight line and pay attention to where you are and who's shooting at you? 

 

Anyways the OP is right on these points here,

 

 

3. insults or whining in any game

 

7. Test server for what? 90% of the testers are of the opinion that something does not fit crapno matter what WG make and get money from us

 

And i would add.. Players sailing with a big ar** BB straight into the middle of a map and then start reversing... or just stay there afloat and shooting because slower boat accurate boat.... that and island hugging. :facepalm:

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