This game has become unplayable, no more strategy

[CIaymore]

 

1. wide drive or not you get some random damage

2. beginner play hight Tier only a + b or b + c (full camping)

3. insults or whining in any game

4. more and more experienced players can or do not want to play anymore

5. But we are getting more and more new ships for what?

6. since August last year it is only downhill

7. Test server for what? 90% of the testers are of the opinion that something does not fit crapno matter what WG make and get money from us

8. Hundreds of aim assist cheaters

 

 

Is no one at wargaming where the looks and something against it can not !!!!!????????????

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

2. Since when is going for caps considered camping?

[CIaymore]

How will you b push with bbs and cruisers vs 12 ships?

[Runner357]

Some good points, some bad points - even some weird points.

I hate the fact that the next patch seemed to be aimed at making noobs getting more tools to stay alive but what can we do about it?

Despite everyone I know, most youtubers and the majority of player on this very forum hating the next patch WG simply doesn't care. 

Pity. I hope they know who pays their salaries 

[MaxxyNL]

1. wide drive or not you get some random damage

2. beginner play hight Tier only a + b or b + c (full camping)

3. insults or whining in any game

4. more and more experienced players can or do not want to play anymore

5. But we are getting more and more new ships for what?

6. since August last year it is only downhill

7. Test server for what? 90% of the testers are of the opinion that something does not fit crapno matter what WG make and get money from us

8. Hundreds of aim assist cheaters

 

Is no one at wargaming where the looks and something against it can not !!!!!????????????

 

[ColonelPete]

How will you b push with bbs and cruisers vs 12 ships?

 

Could you explain this more? You usually do not encounter 12 enemy ships at once. That would mean the rest of the map is empty.

[Verdius]

8. Hundreds of aim assist cheaters

 

Do you have evidence for that?

[200Years]

MaxxyNL that car, is that supposed to be your Eenis Pxtension ?! LOL

 

Could also signify a midlife crisis ! I am worried about you man !

[Aotearas]

 

2. beginner play hight Tier only a + b or b + c (full camping)

 

Do you even know what strategy is?

 

The entire point of concentrating on some capture points is so that you have team coherence to make a concerted push rather than have everyone go everywhere and have the enemy team just mop up islolated people doing their own things rather than work together!

 

 

8. Hundreds of aim assist cheaters

 

 

Waaaah waaaaah

 

[Chiledip]

Simply WG cannot mask the natural traits of the average player and the average human being for that matter, even if they tried to. Even if WG were making good decisions about the future of the game, which clearly they aren't, the basic premise of playing team games with a demographic who in general have never played and never intend to play team games is flawed in itself. If you have played any team sport or game to any level, working with teammates and having some kind of tactical appreciation of WOWs will be simple. For most of the playerbase however, this is not the case.

Sadly if WG actually made decisions to improve the meta they would lose players. That's why the next changes will make things campier still if that is possible. The emphasis is on making cash, not making a good game. The dumbed down game will suit the dumbed down playerbase, it will be like a weekend for 365 days a year. 10 BBs a team, 3 afk at the start,3 sailing backwards and left, 3 backwards and right and the 10th "just waiting to turn my guns before i move".

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Some good points, some bad points - even some weird points.

I hate the fact that the next patch seemed to be aimed at making noobs getting more tools to stay alive but what can we do about it?

Despite everyone I know, most youtubers and the majority of player on this very forum hating the next patch WG simply doesn't care. 

Pity. I hope they know who pays their salaries 

 

As a noob player myself, I understand if some aspects of the game are made noob friendly, at least on the lower tiers if their intention is to encourage newcomers to keep on playing instead of slamming them out of the game on Day 1.

 

On higher tiers, however, the game should be more skill and experience based, although even there the experienced players will benefit from 15+ point captains.

 

 

Could you explain this more? You usually do not encounter 12 enemy ships at once. That would mean the rest of the map is empty.

 

I frequently encounter, if not 12, at least several ships firing at me from three differing directions. Might be the result of bad tactics on my part though....

 

 

Do you even know what strategy is?

 

The entire point of concentrating on some capture points is so that you have team coherence to make a concerted push rather than have everyone go everywhere and have the enemy team just mop up islolated people doing their own things rather than work together!

 

 

 

Waaaah waaaaah

 

 

Capping is a double-edged sword in itself, imo. Failing to cap can cost you at the end, on the other hand, capping early won't save your team if bad play results in it getting wiped out.

 

So, you need to both cap (at least one, preferably 2 out of 3/4 zones), defend your caps, scout, and attack consistently to sink the opposing force. That requires some knowledge of maps and tactics and at least basic form of team play and coordination.

 

In my last battle we came perilously close to losing because our forces were split to defend and attack. Our initial attack was made up of 1 BB, 1 CA and 1 DD. Both CA and DD were quickly sunk by the three opposing BBs that defended their base (all that was left of their team at that point). Prior to that we had the numbers but our tactics failed and nearly cost us the match.

[CIaymore]

 

Could you explain this more? You usually do not encounter 12 enemy ships at once. That would mean the rest of the map is empty.

 

1. BB the still standing there is suptional, because one is then better hit

2. Beach theoretically all ships can Hit you at cappoint b! And at a or c not, I wonder what wg tutorial videos has done. Although one does not need the logical thinking

 

 

Do you have evidence for that?

 

I do not have to prove to anyone the earth is round or? And everyone who says there are no hundreds of cheaters is naive or cheating himself !!!  Those are the people who lie to their wife at home I am not foreign

[CIaymore]

 

Do you even know what strategy is?

 

The entire point of concentrating on some capture points is so that you have team coherence to make a concerted push rather than have everyone go everywhere and have the enemy team just mop up islolated people doing their own things rather than work together!

 

 

 

Waaaah waaaaah

 

 

What do you think why napolion lost his battle at waterloo? I give you a small tip (flank atack)
 

So tell me nothing about strategy, I'm not a good player but I must not be taught by even worse or 20 years younger players

 

I will not fight with you. I want constructive criticism! And I will not teach anyone here and I apologize for my bad english

 

 

 

[SovietFury43]

Wait a minute are you complaining that people are pushing caps? That's a first.

[SovietFury43]

 

What do you think why napolion lost his battle at waterloo? I give you a small tip (flank atack)
 

So tell me nothing about strategy, I'm not a good player but I must not be taught by even worse or 20 years younger players

 

I will not fight with you. I want constructive criticism! And I will not teach anyone here and I apologize for my bad english

 

 

 

 

Actually the battle of Waterloo was already lost long before the Prussians showed up.

 

Napoleon lost the battle of Waterloo for several reasons:

 

1. Wellesley picked a terrain that favored defense.

 

2. Ney wasted to much time fighing for Hougoumont

 

3. Ney wasted the French cavalery charging what he thought were retreating British troops only to find out he marched his cavalery strait into British square formations. 

 

4. Napoleon didnt expect the ambush by British troops against his Old Guard. 

[Boris_MNE]

Wait for RDF. 

[albinbino]

There is strategy in high tier games. Whenever i am surrounded with tier 9 and 10 ships, game more often then not is strategic and people try to play good game.

[ColonelPete]

 

1. BB the still standing there is suptional, because one is then better hit

2. Beach theoretically all ships can Hit you at cappoint b! And at a or c not, I wonder what wg tutorial videos has done. Although one does not need the logical thinking

 

 

 

Deine Antworten passen nicht Entferntesten zu dem was ich geschrieben habe. Schreib lieber im deutschen Forum...

[Runner357]

English dude. Show some respect.

 

I say have the RDF skills at sup T7 and then remove it. 

I mean ranked with that crap? Clans? Teams? Fcuk off. 

 

I cant say that I've ever met someone who cheated. Just today I've oneshotted 12 cruisers, one third from max range. 

Is that my skill or them being potatos? The latter. Don't show your side when spotted and you will be oneshotted. 

 

A+B or B+C is the best way no make sure that your team DONT get flanked. Go A+C and the voice of the romans echo in my head  : "divide and counquer". Basic stuff 

[moomoo2]

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CIaymore, on 15 January 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

What do you think why napolion lost his battle at waterloo? I give you a small tip (flank atack)
 

So tell me nothing about strategy, I'm not a good player but I must not be taught by even worse or 20 years younger players

 

I will not fight with you. I want constructive criticism! And I will not teach anyone here and I apologize for my bad english

 

 

 

 

 

[Nebojsha67]

 

Do you have evidence for that?

 

I do! I had over 6500 fight, and I survived 1500. With a simple calculation you can reach the figure of 5,000 cheaters. All who have killed me. Piece of cake. 

p.s. My English is worse than my survival rate- I still looking from cheater for that.

[waxx25]

 

Do you have evidence for that?

 

I have to agree with OP on the "hundreds of aim assist users" 

To say something like "do you have evidence for that?" implies that you are just plain and simply ignorant or are using aim assist your self.

as for evidence, I can install aim assist at any time I want. If I can do it (imagine how much higher my stats would be if I did) then I have to assume that many others will actually do it.

Wargaming did an excellent job of taking out and punishing aim assist users but the very nature of how these third party mods work means they can't get them all.

[Babykim]

 

I have to agree with OP on the "hundreds of aim assist users" 

To say something like "do you have evidence for that?" implies that you are just plain and simply ignorant or are using aim assist your self.

as for evidence, I can install aim assist at any time I want. If I can do it...

 

...but can you really? A quick search on the internet shows that none are available for the current version. I am not baiting for a link. I believe the aimbots are broken since long.

[Ferry_25]

I wouldn't go as far as "unplayable." Reading between the lines of OP I must say I agree on a lot of things. RNG is driving me "nuts" often. Boy, I lost count of the "half damaged AA batteries" I've hit with my pen but no damage hits. Furthermore IMO it's plainly ridiculous a DD can approach a BB on close range and get away with a big gun salvo because of RNG-us! But I don't agree with the aimcheater accusation. As far as I've seen the aim assist "mods" are pretty useless when an "enemy" has learned the WASD hack.

[waxx25]

 

...but can you really? A quick search on the internet shows that none are available for the current version. I am not baiting for a link. I believe the aimbots are broken since long.

 

not true.