Camping BB's

[lezantas26]

In my experience most BBs don't camp... just a very visible minority.

 

i will disagree. when i push with my BB, i end up being alone with a DD/CA while the rest BB stay at 20km

mind you, there were times a BB was pushing while i was staying back cause i wanted to hold the line instead of suicide push, so sometimes it might just be bad communication and people feeling more or less brave about the situation

but the end result is the same, few guys pushing others camping/defending, problem is when you clearly have the advantage and people keep "defending" the empty sea far away from the cap..

[GeneraIlKrizmuz]

camping BBs or what I call them: BBs

[waxx25]

OP, cowards in real life will be cowards in game too. nothing will change that

 

[The_Great_SCH]

This is getting out of hand, every ship-calss except BB's are getting mid-high skill caped, and BB's are too forgiving for the low-mid skilled players, who don't know their role. FFS, i had a Bismarck and NC in my team who didn't want to engage a Neptune and an Atlanta to help 2 DD's going into cap, they were too afraid of the damage two floating citadels could deal to them .

 

Is there any chance that WG could change the way players get into games? I am getting sick of these games where Team A or team B is winning by eliminating 6-7 ships in 10 minutes. I am not complaining about this, but it takes away the fun factor of the game. I hate how nowadays DD's and cruisers has to be the ones who decides the faith of each game, because BB's can't handle some fire, and they are the ones who say everything else is OP.

[Technocrat_Prime]

Something has got to be done about them, , was in a match  where 4 of them hide behind one island, 2 N.carolina's warspite and a tirpitz, why do they both playing if all their going to do is hide behind islands ????????

 

That is the logical result of THE major design flaw in WoWS: islands. If there are islands to hide behind, people will hide behind them. As long as WG wants us to be Goast Guard and not Navy, people will play like Coast Guard skippers.

[Raziel_Walker]

Well every domination game I play a BB and push I die in a fire.

Every standard battle I hang back and defend I win.

So camping is promoted.. when you move forward and the rest falls back you can either stop/reverse and eat torps because you can't evade or turn away and eat some broadside citadels.

[IceyJones]

how are BBs suposed to push when theres DDs like the shimakaze that can send a wall with 15 torps. lates battles ive been in mm sends me against 5 DDs.

 

a shima can torp every 1.5-2 minutes. it is NO PROBLEM to push, when you notice that the shima just torped.

also when u go head on, you avoid nearly ALL of these 15 torps EASILY!

 

a DD cannot prevent a BB push! you know.....BBs have heal......and when the BB has support in his push (another DD for spotting, a CA for close support), its unstoppable

 

 

[Elenortirion]

Camping BBs does not exist. Camping BBs is a conspiray theory along with the faked moon landings, the ruling lizard elite and chemtrails. 

 

where were you when people whined here on torpedo soups?

 

why haven't you said the same on it back then?

 

oh maybe because it's just random crap with barely any relevance to the facts....

[or very well concealed sarcasm but given the nature of your other posts I doubt so]

 

there are Camping BBs, and to actually notice them you do not need much more than play a couple of games anywhere from low to high tiers, there xist and there is hell alotta of them

 

hard to judge if they are minority or majority of BB playerbase but for sure a big chunk of them

 

but then current game mechanics does not make it really possible to actually "do" about them, and even if there was solution, WG is to busy analysing their precious spreadsheets to notice any sort of problem in this regard....

[zuadao]

 

lets all wonder why BBs camp...

[Culiacan_Mexico]

 

 

lets all wonder why BBs camp...

Why?

 

[IceyJones]

5 BBs per match are ok it seems, but 5 DDs are FAAAAAAR to much....

 

typical BBaby comment

 

my response in such setups:

 

killed 3 DDs in this match in montana:

[Dominico]

Really, tell me how my mid-tier Japanese destroyer "get out of dodge fast" when it runs into a Kiev?

 

If you get caught out to the extent that you get wrecked it's a combination of over extending, bad positioning and lack of skills to retreat. 

 

If this happens a lot stick near to cruisers so they can support you.  If you see ships that can wreck you in the listing ie belfast etc.  Be careful till you know where they are. 

 

It means you have to use a bit of skill and be pro active which isn't usually necessary as a Destroyer but it's not that hard. 

 

Also Japanese have best concealment so you will see them first in most cases.

[steviln]

 

where were you when people whined here on torpedo soups?

 

I did not whine but took out my Benson to chase Fubukis. 

[SovietFury43]

5 BBs per team is pretty much a standard match now and when you point that out people like Dominico will rush to defend their prescious BBs saying that BBs should be the most powerful ship class.

 

But when rarely there happen to be 5 DD on each team suddenly its "Oh on! What are we poor BBs supposed to do with all those DDs around?!".

 

Funny how that works.

[zuadao]

5 BBs per match are ok it seems, but 5 DDs are FAAAAAAR to much....

 

typical BBaby comment

 

my response in such setups:

 

killed 3 DDs in this match in montana:

 

in shatter lolol

 

the more you ppl talk...

 

im not complaining about the amount of dds. im pointing out the absurd point of camping BBs.

 

fact of the matter is i will never push into torps when i cant safely avoid most of them.

[Date_A_Bullet]

I have very rarely games with only 2 or even just 1 BB each team in the middle of the night.

 

Spoiler: The cruisers camp too.

At the moment they just use the BBs as excuse (because all BBs have 10 secs reload speed and shells fly with the speed of light), but the truth is:

 

Camping is everywhere.

There is no escape.

[zuadao]

I have very rarely games with only 2 or even just 1 BB each team in the middle of the night.

 

Spoiler: The cruisers camp too.

At the moment they just use the BBs as excuse (because all BBs have 10 secs reload speed and shells fly with the speed of light), but the truth is:

 

Camping is everywhere.

There is no escape.

 

but thats because of gaming mechanics. i cant blame cruisers wont push when they take 4 citadels and get killed almost instantly.

 

i think wg did that radio positioning skill to facilitate pushing and as usuall solving the problem is hard so they have to come up with idiotic ideas like those...

[Elenortirion]

 

considering i have a montana i can say i have been torped by shimas. avoiding most torps is ok but you still take 4 or 5. and even if you stay alive its game over.

 

btw with the rudder upgrade i have 17.8 seconds rudder shift time. i dont think you have to be a genius figuring that when i see torps coming at 67 knots even if i spot them at 5 kms its very hard to dodge them.

 

iChase made a very godo video once on how actually so called "wasd hack" works - if you start turning your rudder when you spot torps [and end up eating 4-5 of them] you have already started turning it waaaay too late - the key is to make those turn all the time to throw off aiming of the ship firing those torps [and when done properly you may even evade torpedoes without never knowing they were there

 

while I don;t have shima just yet [didn't found it worthy nuff to farm the silver for it, for most cases of trying to torp competent BB players with 67kn and 73kn torps, the best I usually get is single torp per reload - unless I manage to catch him when he don;t expect it at all [for example with torpedo reload booster on yuugumo] then the follow up salvo can score more

 

and the only BBs I score more hits against are those kind of potato players that often don;t even start to take turn when their torpedo alarms goes off.....

 

 

I did not whine but took out my Benson to chase Fubukis. 

 

I meant more like why didn't you jumped out and called torpedosoups being conspiracy theory back then

[Quetak]

only BBs I score more hits against are those kind of potato players that often don;t even start to take turn when their torpedo alarms goes off.....

 

my friend always just say: "its too late"  and sail still straight. Despite he can avoid some torps if he started turning imidiately. Some ppl just never learn.

[steviln]

I meant more like why didn't you jumped out and called torpedosoups being conspiracy theory back then

 

I really did not mind the torpedo soup since I mostly played DDs when that was an issue

[Culiacan_Mexico]

 

If you get caught out to the extent that you get wrecked it's a combination of over extending, bad positioning and lack of skills to retreat. 

 

If this happens a lot stick near to cruisers so they can support you.  If you see ships that can wreck you in the listing ie belfast etc.  Be careful till you know where they are. 

 

It means you have to use a bit of skill and be pro active which isn't usually necessary as a Destroyer but it's not that hard. 

 

Also Japanese have best concealment so you will see them first in most cases.

"They can get out of dodge fast."

These are your stats

Fubuki
Games played 30
Win rate 36.67%
Survival    23%

 

If it is so easy, why aren't you doing it?

[zuadao]

 

iChase made a very godo video once on how actually so called "wasd hack" works - if you start turning your rudder when you spot torps [and end up eating 4-5 of them] you have already started turning it waaaay too late - the key is to make those turn all the time to throw off aiming of the ship firing those torps [and when done properly you may even evade torpedoes without never knowing they were there

 

while I don;t have shima just yet [didn't found it worthy nuff to farm the silver for it, for most cases of trying to torp competent BB players with 67kn and 73kn torps, the best I usually get is single torp per reload - unless I manage to catch him when he don;t expect it at all [for example with torpedo reload booster on yuugumo] then the follow up salvo can score more

 

and the only BBs I score more hits against are those kind of potato players that often don;t even start to take turn when their torpedo alarms goes off.....

 

 

I meant more like why didn't you jumped out and called torpedosoups being conspiracy theory back then

 

thats if they get spoted first. theres no way of guessing where they are at first. also with a barrage of 15 torps you hit more than 1.

[Hades_warrior]

Something has got to be done about them, , was in a match  where 4 of them hide behind one island, 2 N.carolina's warspite and a tirpitz, why do they both playing if all their going to do is hide behind islands ????????

 

Cant complain on Carolina since her armor is very squishy and any island cover is usefull for her survival. Carolina is to easy to citadel.

I dont use island when I play her, but I still try to keep distance with her from enemys, because its not my goal to be the first victim on the field.

[_ramrus_]

You would think people would be more agressive on PTS. They are even more campy.

I only feel reinforced in thought that TX gameplay is cancer.

[TheRonson]

I have very rarely games with only 2 or even just 1 BB each team in the middle of the night.

 

Spoiler: The cruisers camp too.

At the moment they just use the BBs as excuse (because all BBs have 10 secs reload speed and shells fly with the speed of light), but the truth is:

 

Camping is everywhere.

There is no escape.

 

Yeah but, that's because the Cruiser Captains are sick of being the only target early on in the battle because the BB's are so far back there on a different Map !

 

I don't play Cruisers normally unless it's missions or whatever so just lately I have seen this first hand for the last week, you really do get the impression that you go in to back the dd's when they're capping but it's a fool's errand as you have no backup as the BB's don't give S***

So to stop the piss-take for the missions I have resorted to using the IBUKI that has a 19.2k range so getting in close is unnecessary, just can't wait until this part of mission is over as it's no fun! 

I have never had  2 bb's in a battle........ never heard of that one,  alway 5 at least.