[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #26 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) its fun to play if you stay bow on you can get alot of citidals Actually, you tend to get a lot of citadels when you turn broadside on as well. Edited January 16, 2017 by Procrastes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MPT] AkosJaccik Players 920 posts 11,177 battles Report post #27 Posted January 16, 2017 Last time when WG put a discount on T6, I was hesitating to buy either Warspite or Dunk'. Decided on the latter, and I am really happy with it, as I got what I am searching for in a premium ship: Something else. Granted, at my "skill" level, I don't find the Dunkerque a competitive ship in the sense that she would probably be the last T6 BB (well, BB in the game's terms) I would choose for a ranked match, but the gun placement, the turret traverse and the overall maneuverability makes her really fun to play. Most of the pros and cons are already listed above, I'd add one though: HE is great to the extent that I use it probably in greater numbers than on any other battleship. That is somewhat of a balancing factor when encountering with bow-on yolo-ing Tirpitzes. If I could wish for anything regarding the Dunkerque, personally I would maybe vote for a tad bit faster reload, maybe 1-2 sec. faster. Everything else is something I can live with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #28 Posted January 16, 2017 It's a fun little ship, surprisingly tanky until you meet 15" guns. Forget it when 16" guns show up as you're just one big fat bag of XP waiting to be popped. Turrets are great, very easy to keep on target and they don't seem to get knocked out much anymore. The talk of both turrets being fried is exaggerated, In fact I believe turret knock outs were nerfed awhile ago so BB seldom lose them these days. Hell even DDs don't seem to lose them all that often now. I swear by AP only, I do for the Scharn and Dunker's guns have better pen and dispersion... Personally I prefer the Warspite, as her guns are simply early 20th century rail guns. However there's no reason why you can't enjoy both as they play drastically different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darzok Beta Tester 196 posts 5,408 battles Report post #29 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) She is not a bad ship but not that good at the same time. She has a nice top speed but is poor to accelerate and takes forever to come to a stop and turns like an island. Guns are ok but the RNG is a massive troll not uncommon to miss broadside targets at under 8km since spread will make every shell fall short or fly right over the top. Great HE so you can burn the enemy to death or BB if there angle means ap is doing all most nothing but at the same time she will go up in flames the second a HE round looks at her. The Secondarys are real powerful much more than people think had a few DD's miss torps and charge past thinking there in a safe spot behind my main guns only to melt to the quad secondarys. Over all i can not recommend her as she just feels like a T5 ship you can do ok vs T7 ships but T8 will wreck you. Edited January 16, 2017 by Darzok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WSW] ColorsOfRainbows Players 665 posts 7,534 battles Report post #30 Posted January 20, 2017 I would say no. Its a cruiser with bb guns in T6, so you will end up vs T8 almost all the time. Sure its fun to play - when played smart (read - exploiting its speed), but to be honest there are far better premium ships available. if u play her broadside she may be like a cruiser but with the front she aint a cruiser at all, last game had 10.000hp left while driving backwards and still managing a krakenwith 4 bb shooting on me nonstop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WebSpawn Beta Tester 120 posts 4,876 battles Report post #31 Posted January 20, 2017 She's great fun, one of the ships I do very well in (or so I feel). Sometimes I get comments in the chat about how ironic it is that a french ship is leading the attack Bow on she deflects a lot of fire and tanks suprisingly well. Her guns are very good, (especially considering her low(er) caliber) the arcs and shell velocity great and the dispersion is mostly horizontal, so perfect for straddling the full length of broadsiding ships.... I too was hesistant to buy her at first because of the lackluster reviews, but boy did she prove me wrong. Awesome ship! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,963 battles Report post #32 Posted January 20, 2017 The problem with the Dunkerque is not the ship itself, but that it inspires bad players to play badly. When I see a Dunk on my team it is almost always a terrible player who stays bow on at max range with slow speed, no speed or even reverse, and eventually gets taken out by a CV or DD with ease while doing very little damage. When played with brains, the ship can be a really fierce opponent though because of its great tactical flexibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moomoo2 Players 384 posts 12,670 battles Report post #33 Posted January 20, 2017 Great ship, teaches you not to do stupid stuff and the guns are good. A broadside cruiser can be deleted no problem. Do a secondary build as a sneaky DD creeping up behind you will regret it immediately. Learn to find lines on the map where you can move forward easily, but still have some cover for your sides. Don't find one island and lurk behind it all match. You're fast and pretty agile. Don't watch the Flamu video as he genuinely doesn't like it. He's allowed his opinion, but try a more sympathetic review. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WebSpawn Beta Tester 120 posts 4,876 battles Report post #34 Posted January 20, 2017 The problem with the Dunkerque is not the ship itself, but that it inspires bad players to play badly. When I see a Dunk on my team it is almost always a terrible player who stays bow on at max range with slow speed, no speed or even reverse, and eventually gets taken out by a CV or DD with ease while doing very little damage. When played with brains, the ship can be a really fierce opponent though because of its great tactical flexibility. The thing is, doing that does not necessarily make one a bad player. If he or she does his damage and stays alive this way? I myself have had great results with this method, but also yolo'ing bow on can work great. All about the stage of the game , and reading the situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #35 Posted January 20, 2017 I find it a bit underwhelming, but it may just be RNG hating France. Guns overpen cruisers and fail to pen BBs. The main belt is very weak. I still love her because HONNEUR VALEUR PATRIE DISCIPLINE, but if I had to choose I would pick Arizona instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #36 Posted January 20, 2017 I love this ship. But basically if you are bow on reversing from an enemy you've gone wrong. She's fast and can get where she needs to go. I like parking next to an island to shoot enemies one at a time if possible, then relocate. Her guns feel very good but if you go 1v1 in a fair fight with a battleship that's not usually good. I would recommend her for experienced cruiser players though. She's definitely got s cruiser feel about her. I have Arizona as well but she's frustrating as her lack of speed can leave you doing literally nothing in a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CleverViking Players 503 posts 1,982 battles Report post #37 Posted January 20, 2017 Any ship that has to spend its life camping near an island bow-tanking and running away reversing is not for me. You don't have to camp with it. I played a Dunk division with my brother and we pushed through A cap on Two Brothers singlehandedly(ish, we did the heavy lifting but we got some spotting support and had a cruiser along for the ride). Both finished with more than 100k damage and 2-3 kills a piece. It's a fun ship but it's got some problems. (also I enjoy the French captain voiceover). She does struggle a bit as bottom tier though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozbrus Players 79 posts 1,491 battles Report post #38 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) While I do not own one, I consider it a good training for US T8-10 BBs. Basicaly the same tactics, trying to bow on and not showing sides too much. But that does not mean you can not turn around. I have a NC a MO and I get citadeled in one of eight games or so. Bear in mind that most players can not hit a barn. You just get unlucky to find someone capable in Nagato or Amagi who can actualy aim. The best thing is that in Duknk, you even do not have to show side, while in US ship you must if you want a full salvo. From what I have seen a good player is quite deadly in it. And it definitely is the best looking ship of all T6 premiums. Edited January 20, 2017 by Rozbrus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites