Fix chat report abuse please

[Corvi]

tbh Corvi, you're a good player but quite an a$$hat often in the gamechat and thats the mainreason you get these chat bans by all the reports.

 

Yeh, im also being an asshat when a lone DD sails off to a flag where noone is becasue entire team goes the other way, gets his [edited]handed to him by enemy bombers and dds, starts spamming chat "muh muh no support stupid noob carrier fag reported no help afk" and then sails back across half the map with his 200 hp left and teamkills my Midway because i wasnt babysitting him. Went to port, found 5 reports. Mind you im still chatbanned ..

 

Of course sometimes im an asshat, never said otherwise. But the the amount of asshattery that makes me rage is just mindboggling .. 

[Hades_warrior]

Today I got notification for reported 2 times. It was in the round where I was playing Carolina and yelling at two our DD's who was chasing enemy CV instead of defending our zones.

Thanks to those idiots we lost and I got reported...

 

What a [edited] system!

[DeletedUser]

 

im taking that Quote for the Q/A to the Community Topic:

And thats an official Statement on this "Issue"

 

 "Are there any improvements planned for the in-game report system?

We are working on improvements to this system, even though currently we have bigger fish to fry (as you will see in few upcoming updates).

And, of course, we are following the results of the report system all the time".

 

[EdiJo]

I think that sick "chat ban system" counts "complains" not only from this one game. Also, as mentioned above, it probably lowers the ban threshold if you were already banned before. 

 

I got this nice 24-hour present on Saturday in my second game of The Weekend. I just said a few words to some (divisioned...) weekend potatos, and they evidently felt offended, together. 

I have been banned previously a few weeks ago.

 

Then my following Saturday games turned into a nightmare, because being silenced I could not even tell the potatoes what to do (and what NOT to do...) - so, least to say, I had to stack all "500k credit" missions to the next day, because most of games sucked beyond my moderate carrying abilities....

 

Sick, stupid, unfair system designed only to "vent the frustration" and avoid putting any possible moderating work on WG staff. 

[loppantorkel]

I got this nice 24-hour present on Saturday in my second game of The Weekend. I just said a few words to some (divisioned...) weekend potatos, and they evidently felt offended, together. 

I have been banned previously a few weeks ago.

 

Then my following Saturday games turned into a nightmare, because being silenced I could not even tell the potatoes what to do (and what NOT to do...) - so, least to say, I had to stack all "500k credit" missions to the next day, because most of games sucked beyond my moderate carrying abilities....

So, potato-oppressed people in this thread are learning their lessons, or will they try to make WG change the chatban system to allow them their God-given right to politely enlighten potato captains of their wrong doings?

[mtm78]

So, potato-oppressed people in this thread are learning their lessons, or will they try to make WG change the chatban system to allow them their God-given right to politely enlighten potato captains of their wrong doings?

 

And what is wrong with politely pointing out someone is " doing things wrong " ????

 

As long as people don't curse or insult, criticism is not something chat abuse report option is meant to ' punish ' 

 

edit: which reminds me stop using this wows-stat thingie as seeing the < 45% performance matching with how much of a ....... player some people are makes it VERY hard to not cross the line and just insult their intelligence. 

[txtspeak]

Not too long ago I got chat banned for no reason

and I mean literally no reason

 

in the match I had done 30K damage in my Baltimore, killed no-one and not spoken a word and yet still found myself chat banned...

how bizarre...

[loppantorkel]

 

And what is wrong with politely pointing out someone is " doing things wrong " ????

 

Nothing, if it really is done politely. Usually you aren't chat banned for being impolite either. Unless you've got an history, of course. If the chat ban system really was an issue, I think more than a few set of people would be bringing it up again and again.

 

I wonder if there's any correlation between chat bans and low Karma, or no chat bans and high Karma

[mtm78]

Not too long ago I got chat banned for no reason

and I mean literally no reason

 

in the match I had done 30K damage in my Baltimore, killed no-one and not spoken a word and yet still found myself chat banned...

how bizarre...

 

Only happens if a chat report carried over from the last match, sometimes you get the notification later. I do believe chat abuse reports are ignored if you haven't used chat in that game 

 

 

Nothing, if it really is done politely. Usually you aren't chat banned for being impolite either. Unless you've got an history, of course. If the chat ban system really was an issue, I think more than a few set of people would be bringing it up again and again.

 

I wonder if there's any correlation between chat bans and low Karma, or no chat bans and high Karma

 

Ofc, chat abuse reports lowers karma so even while I just been a joly old chap and spend most of my match in my Sims providing smokes for a Neptune and Atago so they could support my cap zone's I still have a low karma.. just saying I do get complimented but seems people don't like criticism. 

 

And well, I guess you should be in some of my games where I get reported for saying stuff which shouldn't be applicable to a chat abuse report. Being critical != toxic. Spamming insults = toxic. And yes, I admit I've crossed that line in some games, and those reports in those games are not something I object to. I ' earned ' them ( in the most negative manner possible sadly ). But it's this accumulation of reports also for things which would never happen if those reports were checked manually which makes me unhappy with the system. 

 

Also, even on forum people sometimes accuse me of being confrontational even when I agree with them, guess my communication skills leave something to be desired Extrapolate that into ingame chat, and you might understand how unhappy I am with getting reports sometimes even for things I say with the right intentions ( like saying: " Why did you do that for, you threw away the victory by XYZ while all we had to do was XZY " -> you been reported *FeelsBadMan* ). 

 

 

[loppantorkel]

It doesn't seem to differ much from what I do. The difference must be the other games that gave you your history and the quicker chat bans. Maybe WG could make people erase their bad history by earning Karma. Sort of community service

 

[EdiJo]

 

Nothing, if it really is done politely. Usually you aren't chat banned for being impolite either. Unless you've got an history, of course. If the chat ban system really was an issue, I think more than a few set of people would be bringing it up again and again.

 

I wonder if there's any correlation between chat bans and low Karma, or no chat bans and high Karma

 

why exactly should I be polite when someone to "why are you going A, we agreed on B+C a while ago" replies "f**k you noob"?

Potatos, especially those divisioned, just KNOW BETTER. And they have doubled or tripled voting power.

 

Correlation between this useless "karma" and chat ban is for sure very strong (and not only because chat "misbehaviors" lower karma...). But so what?

Who cares what his "karma" is, if any potato can "vent his frustration" and downvote you for nothing?

 

 

Only happens if a chat report carried over from the last match, sometimes you get the notification later. I do believe chat abuse reports are ignored if you haven't used chat in that game 

 

 

Ofc, chat abuse reports lowers karma so even while I just been a joly old chap and spend most of my match in my Sims providing smokes for a Neptune and Atago so they could support my cap zone's I still have a low karma.. just saying I do get complimented but seems people don't like criticism. 

 

And well, I guess you should be in some of my games where I get reported for saying stuff which shouldn't be applicable to a chat abuse report. Being critical != toxic. Spamming insults = toxic. And yes, I admit I've crossed that line in some games, and those reports in those games are not something I object to. I ' earned ' them ( in the most negative manner possible sadly ). But it's this accumulation of reports also for things which would never happen if those reports were checked manually which makes me unhappy with the system. 

 

Also, even on forum people sometimes accuse me of being confrontational even when I agree with them, guess my communication skills leave something to be desired Extrapolate that into ingame chat, and you might understand how unhappy I am with getting reports sometimes even for things I say with the right intentions ( like saying: " Why did you do that for, you threw away the victory by XYZ while all we had to do was XZY " -> you been reported *FeelsBadMan* ). 

 

 

 

Yup, probably report just lagged. And I am afraid a direct manual moderation is not possible - there are millions of battles on each server per week. Scale is the problem. But one can imagine that if there are smart self-learning filters, then if WG hires 100 moderators, and they check only 100 reported games/day, and say 5% of games contains a report with "filtered content" (bad language, correlation with battle result like TK or very bad one), we have 100x100x(1/5%)x7 = 1.4 million games checked weekly, so it is close to the order of magnitude of the real number.

 

Anyway, it is just wishful thinking. WG strategy (of course) is to minimize costs, maximize income - so they don't pay attention even to obviously botting accounts, not only to potatoing ones.

 

Even today I met two different potatos, who both drove premium DD (Leningrad and Błyskawica), and one had only a few games on tier 1-2 on his account, the other one's account can't be found by any stat engine, including WG player's page.

Both just started moving, and frantically shooting around - suicided at the start of the battle going straight into enemy fleet. One was so elaborate that sailed through the channel on the Brothers map...

Didn't respond to chat, just executed their very short routine.

 

Strange? First week of 2017 on EU server again shows hundreds of accounts with more than 500-700 battles/week. This is 24 hours/day of playing WoWS. So either these are quitters/afkers, or just bots. Not the first such week, not the last.  

Hundreds of thousands of games with bots during one week - so probability of meeting one is quite high.

[EsaTuunanen]

I wonder if there's any correlation between chat bans and low Karma, or no chat bans and high Karma

Clearly nothing what so ever.

 

Got chat banned now after lately having been losing more than handfull of karma (couple percents of total) mostly clearly as revenge from torping some straight line sailors/smoke sitters and likely for detonating couple ships.

 

For example after one match had mysteriously three less karma even though I didn't even have rear hiding battleships in team to tell to move to support cruisers.

While highly suspiciously there was three same clan player division whose cruiser got finished by torpedo (meant for smoking destroyer) while I hunted and finished its destroyer in late match...

 

Similarly in early December in one match enemy division of Isokaze and Kamikaze R just didn't learn to keep distance to battleships screened by me.

So after few minutes of hide and seek both went down because of  keeping coming back for more shelling.

After which that Kamikaze player went full on abusive in chat and after the match got greeted by announcement of two reports.

Replay actually showed also other thing I had missed during that action: Team mate (also in Kamikaze R) derping by stopping in front of enemy Gremy's torps and then doing same in chat!

 

 

So with clans increasing number of divisions that reporting mechanics abuse is just going to increase meaning report system should be fully overhauled.

[Ast3lan]

Ill just leave this here...

 

The team died in like 7 or 8 minutes after i got most of the A point .. the rest is history.

 

None of the nicks uncovered are involved in that crap, its was just 1 player.. oh and he reported me 3x because i actually sunk the Taiho. 

 

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[TheOneAndOnlyGoldstein]

Is it possible to report the same person multiple times with the same account? How did the devs miss such a thing?

[Hades_warrior]

''Your mother is a screenshot''? (from fletcher pic)

This nowadays kids need to work on theyr insults 

[TheOneAndOnlyGoldstein]

''Your mother is a screenshot''? (from fletcher pic)

This nowadays kids need to work on theyr insults 

 

This brings me back in the days of CoD 4 and Xbox 360.

 

Only a 12 year old that screams at the top of his lungs when he gets killed can come up with such a insult.

[Dont_Care_2015]

U even get banned for chatting in a chat, WG doesnt care!

So if u get false reports u will be banned no matter if ur right or wrong!

[mtm78]

 

This brings me back in the days of CoD 4 and Xbox 360.

 

Only a 12 year old that screams at the top of his lungs when he gets killed can come up with such a insult.

 

He was probably typing an insult, then read what was said to him by some other player and was thinking that he should make a screenshot so he could show how he got insulted ... freudian slip

[Ast3lan]

''Your mother is a screenshot''? (from fletcher pic)

This nowadays kids need to work on theyr insults 

 

Best thing about that game was..

 

Minute 1 .. one of our DDs goes ..somewhere ( Boom ) DD dead

Minute 3 .. the fletcher that was with me at A starts shooting CA with Radar.. Radar comes up.. me like nononono .. Fletcher lives ( somehow ) , torps are dropped, people get hit i'm happy.. CA takes hits from me and starts roasting

 

Minute 1 - Minute 7 ( lotsa ranting from team because they are dying , at this point im like.. damn ur all showing broadsides ) 

 

Minute 8 - Well their Taiho is doing things .. lets follow the planes 

 

The rest is history.. found the Taiho sitting at spawn point, torps dropped.. got bombed.. start shooting... Barbecue ensues but team is dead really fast so i get all the steak

 

Get reported.

 

this is more or less how games are happening nowadays, hop into the Fletcher, do serious damage, cap , scout.. team dies horribly fast, noob DD, Noob CV, Noob Team whatever...get reported

 

Rince and repeat. 

 

[Warspite75]

Head into Cap, get no support, die. Get flamed and reported.

​Don't cap, there's never any close support, even when you dump smoke for others, get flamed and reported.

​Focus on caps and denying territory, all CA's go CV-blind because your IJN DD has sailed around the edge to chase a CV that's now spotted, you question why you are holding an entire flank alone. Get flamed and reported.

​Take cap, note that CV is carving through your BB's because they are bow-plowing and the CA's all started off by looping backwards to opposite sides of the map and are thereby offering no AA or DD support, so head through to harass carrier and play bait. Get flamed and reported for not staying with campers.

​KIll six ships in a complete B cap BBQ with all manner of gods own thunder raining down on you, get shot at cos you've apparently been a kill-stealer. Discuss discontent at being shot at. Get flamed and reported.

​In 300 games I've seen my Karma yoyo up and down from 1 to 8 and back up and down again dependent entirely on the spite or goodwill of others, usually bearing no relevance to my performance or chat.

Broken AF.
 

 

 

 

 

[mtm78]

The problem is partly that sometimes listening to advice is a bad thing. I seriously seen 42% win rate Shima's start the game with pinging all over the map and telling people what they should go do

 

In CBT you knew most people ( in comparison with current playerbase ) and you generally knew the good and above players so if they gave advice you knew it made sense. 

[walter3kurtz]

Is it possible to report the same person multiple times with the same account? How did the devs miss such a thing?

 

I'm baffled as well

[Reyte]

Is it possible to report the same person multiple times with the same account? How did the devs miss such a thing?

 

Only one report is counted with every account, even tough it displays u would ve been reported 7 times. The only thing which will counted with 7 reports is karma.

[Corvi]

 

Only one report is counted with every account, even tough it displays u would ve been reported 7 times. The only thing which will counted with 7 reports is karma.

 

Im pretty confident that its not like this and that the reports stack. I tested it myself already. Got into a division with a friend, we both spammed our chat reports at a third player we where on TS with and he was instantly banned.

[txtspeak]

Only happens if a chat report carried over from the last match, sometimes you get the notification later. I do believe chat abuse reports are ignored if you haven't used chat in that game 

 

well, I did say something but I think it was "AC" (take A and C) at the beggining which was met with a resounding:

Affirmative

Affirmative

Affirmative

Affirmative

Affirmative

from the rest of the team. the tactic worked as well.

 

I will never understand these people...