Missiles in game

[dasCKD]

With recent discussions of missiles in game and how no one wants missiles, my autism was severely triggered.

         Missile

noun

1. An object or weapon for throwing, hurling, or shooting, as a stone,bullet, or arrow

Any projectile used with an intention to cause damage is a missile. Ship artillery shells are missiles. Bullets are missiles. AA flak shells are missiles. A powered missile, a missile with built in propulsion, is a rocket. A guided rocket is probably what people think about when they say missiles. They are missiles, but so are ship artillery shells. We already have missiles in game.

 

Rant over. The next thread will be more constructive.

 

P.S. And for those who insists that colloquial definitions should hold over officials ones, battleships are colloquially used by most people  (i.e. people who have no idea what they're talking about) for ships that do battle. So great, thanks to colloquialism now the Gearing, the Hipper, and the Shokaku are now all battleships! Yay for the corruption of the English language!

 

[Nethraniel]

That's why guided ASM or SSM are the more suitable terms.

[Srle_Vigilante]

Still hoping it will be mines.

[SerPurr]

I'm hoping it will be Jennifer Connelly in bikini.

[Horin728]

Or they will completely suprise us and give the fighters another strifing ability, which would actually damage ships. 

 

[Kamikazesushi]

I thought that missile needs to have its own propulsion (reactive). Is OP correct?

 

[Torpedobeatz]

DEPTH CHARGES

SUBS INCOMING

 

[Mr_Tayto]

I'm hoping it will be Jennifer Connelly in bikini.

 

i literally always hope this. About everything. 

[Seinta]

Or they will completely suprise us and give the fighters another strifing ability, which would actually damage ships. 

 

They did mention somewhere giving some fighters that ability.

[xxNihilanxx]

I thought that missile needs to have its own propulsion (reactive). Is OP correct?

 

 

OP is correct. From the latin "can be thrown". Javelins, pilae etc were also missiles.

[mikelight1805]

Without a complete overhaul of the game mechanics, i assume it will be mines.

 

they are just static torpedos really

[Tungstonid]

With recent discussions of missiles in game and how no one wants missiles, my autism was severely triggered.

         Missile

noun

1. An object or weapon for throwing, hurling, or shooting, as a stone,bullet, or arrow

Any projectile used with an intention to cause damage is a missile. Ship artillery shells are missiles. Bullets are missiles. AA flak shells are missiles. A powered missile, a missile with built in propulsion, is a rocket. A guided rocket is probably what people think about when they say missiles. They are missiles, but so are ship artillery shells. We already have missiles in game.

 

You should also add the other definitions, not just the one that suits you (from http://www.dictionary.com/browse/missile):

2. guided missile.

3. ballistic missile.

 

Well, I am no native English speaker, but I had plenty of lessons in English. In one I learned about the "Cuban Missile Crisis" for example. And IRRC it had nothing to do with arrows or javelins but actual ballistic missiles/rockets. So as far as I can tell the term "missile" is mostly used as synonyme for (military) "rocket" (depending on the context of course). And since the "missiles" fired by turrets or AA mounts of ships  are normally referred to as "shells" or "bullets", there is nothing to get confused about.

 

Is there any serious source for the new weapon system anywhere? All I have found is a mentioning in WG's video that they want to implement a new kind of weapon. But besides some people mentioning mines or depth charges and this missile story here I haven't found anything.

[lup3s]

Or they will completely suprise us and give the fighters another strifing ability, which would actually damage ships. 

 

Damaging AA mounts would be nice though

[moomoo2]

With recent discussions of missiles in game and how no one wants missiles, my autism was severely triggered.

         Missile

noun

1. An object or weapon for throwing, hurling, or shooting, as a stone,bullet, or arrow

Any projectile used with an intention to cause damage is a missile. Ship artillery shells are missiles. Bullets are missiles. AA flak shells are missiles. A powered missile, a missile with built in propulsion, is a rocket. A guided rocket is probably what people think about when they say missiles. They are missiles, but so are ship artillery shells. We already have missiles in game.

 

Rant over. The next thread will be more constructive.

Give yourself a rest, a missile is colloquially a big rocket powered thing with a warhead.

 

If someone said there's a missile headed towards your house, would you just sit there and demand to know exactly what it is,

"Well the dictionary says it could be anything...I'm just hoping it's a slightly jagged pebble...."

 

Or would you have a mental image of a Flaming death arrow of technology flying towards you and take appropriate action?

 

What a silly thread.

[dasCKD]

You should also add the other definitions, not just the one that suits you (from http://www.dictionar.../browse/missile):

2. guided missile.

3. ballistic missile.

 

Those definitions links to their own pages for a reason. They are their own thing.

And IRRC it had nothing to do with arrows or javelins but actual ballistic missiles/rockets. So as far as I can tell the term "missile" is mostly used as synonyme for (military) "rocket" (depending on the context of course).

 

Doesn't change the facts of the matter. That's not what the word means. Rockets used for war are missiles, but so are bullets.

Give yourself a rest, a missile is colloquially a big rocket powered thing with a warhead.

 

No, I will not be giving myself a rest. The excuses made for the improper use of language is what led both "retard" and "moron" to fall from medical use. Colloquial use might be useful during conversation, but trying to make a word stop meaning something just because it's colloquially inconvenient is pointless.

 

If someone said there's a missile headed towards your house, would you just sit there and demand to know exactly what it is,

 

What a dumb question. I would not for the same reason that if someone told me that someone was aiming a gun at me, I would dodge instead of stopping to inquire about the model. If it's truly a missile that is aimed at my house instead of me personally, then I can already infer that the weapon could do considerable damage. It doesn't matter to me at that point whether the missile in question is the shell of a tactical artillery piece or a powered warhead. Your example fails.

 

What a silly thread.

 

What an inane response.

[mtm78]

DEPTH CHARGES

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In PvE then I hope...... 

 

 

They did mention somewhere giving some fighters that ability.

 

Unguided rockets ( I know I know, rockets are by definition unguided or they are missiles but I wanted to emphasize it anyway ) for fighters to strafe ships.. 

 

Either that or depth charges to fight AI controlled submarines. 

[dasCKD]

In PvE then I hope...... 

 

I wouldn't trust WG on it too much. They created Bastion after all.

[mtm78]

Yeah but they admitted it's not 'working as intended' and they plan on making significant changes on it. 

[dasCKD]

Yeah but they admitted it's not 'working as intended' and they plan on making significant changes on it. 

 

Well, I hope that change comes soon. Even in a heavily armored battleship, the shells from the fort just do insane amounts of damage. Even with my destroyers in full maneuver, those forts still find a way to hit me more often than not.

[mtm78]

I been lucky and have avoided the mode a lot even in playing my high tiers, but the fort accuracy does seem a bit overdone in relation with human players. But hey the AI in PvE, while being terrible at the actual game, can also aim pretty okish  

 

[Capra76]

Potatoes are missiles too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_O'Bannon_(DD-450)

 

As the Japanese sailors attempted to man their three-inch deck gun, the O'Bannon's deck hands, not having side arms, grabbed potatoes from nearby storage bins and pelted the Japanese with them. Thinking the potatoes were hand grenades, the submarine's sailors were too occupied with throwing them away from the sub to fire.

 

Maybe this is the answer.

[dasCKD]

Maybe this is the answer.

 

Implementing potatoes into the game?

[BlueMoon51]

Not really paying much attention to the game right now. However, I like to pass through ;) but while I think mines would be more logical, wouldn't they promote camping on a large scale with the BB's simply unwilling to venture forward????

[moomoo2]

 

Those definitions links to their own pages for a reason. They are their own thing.

 

Doesn't change the facts of the matter. That's not what the word means. Rockets used for war are missiles, but so are bullets.

 

No, I will not be giving myself a rest. The excuses made for the improper use of language is what led both "retard" and "moron" to fall from medical use. Colloquial use might be useful during conversation, but trying to make a word stop meaning something just because it's colloquially inconvenient is pointless.

 

 

What a dumb question. I would not for the same reason that if someone told me that someone was aiming a gun at me, I would dodge instead of stopping to inquire about the model. If it's truly a missile that is aimed at my house instead of me personally, then I can already infer that the weapon could do considerable damage. It doesn't matter to me at that point whether the missile in question is the shell of a tactical artillery piece or a powered warhead. Your example fails.

 

 

What an inane response.

Your whole OP is inane. A missile is a missile. You're not going to shout captain...long tubular device with a  pointy end, small wings and a flame coming out the back, resembles a javelin..umm white body and red pointy bit...well, that seems to be approaching us at some speed..

 

You're going to say missile incoming. People associate the word with missiles, funnily enough.

 

You're defending a ridiculous case of mental constipation. Stop pettifogging and calm yourself.

[dasCKD]

Your whole OP is inane. A missile is a missile. You're not going to shout captain...long tubular device with a  pointy end, small wings and a flame coming out the back, resembles a javelin..umm white body and red pointy bit...well, that seems to be approaching us at some speed..

 

You're going to say missile incoming. People associate the word with missiles, funnily enough.

 

You're defending a ridiculous case of mental constipation. Stop pettifogging and calm yourself.

 

If an average joe sees a ship shooting at them, they'll shout that there's a battleship shooting at them. The ship shooting at them might well be a destroyer, but they'll still yell battleship. They'll be wrong, but they won't stand there and try to guage the gun size, ship construction, and weapon specifications to try to evaluate the ship class. It's what people would do and they'll still be incorrect. You're defending ignorance. Stop making excuses and bugger off.