[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #26 Posted January 13, 2017 It doesn't matter in the slightest what year a ship was built, only its capabilities.Which is why the (1915) Fuso is at the same tier at the (1943) Independance, and the (1948) Des Moines at the same tier as the (1941 redesign of a 1935-built ship) Zao. If we only used service/design date, then we'd see Kongos, New Mexicos and even Amagis clubbing tier3-4 CLs. Bismarck, North Carolina, and Yamato at the same tier clubbing the same-tiered Bogue and Zuiho, while the Lexington enjoyed feasting on pre-WII superdreadnoughts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #27 Posted January 13, 2017 So, Des Moines, Midway, Gearing etc. fought in WWII? Hmm. All real cold war ships there actually. To be honest, the time the ship was built is actually a bit irrelevant because some nations were really behind on technology or building ability. All the Russian "cold war" ships were designed to WWII principles (some even before the war) just Russia didn't have resources to actually build them until the 1950s. Functionally they are equivalent to same tier ships in other nations, there is nothing magically "modern" about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Strawberry Players 306 posts 5,559 battles Report post #28 Posted January 13, 2017 A giant shark that randomly eats ships would be so cool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #29 Posted January 13, 2017 Nobody mentioned missiles except in the forum. It could be mines, it could be flaming arrows, it could be a giant shark that randomly eats ships. Calm yourself dearie .... BB players would complain about flaming arrows and have them nerfed to just arrows. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] peachpest Beta Tester 208 posts 10,789 battles Report post #30 Posted January 13, 2017 A giant shark that randomly eats ships would be so cool. I'm calling it we are getting the Mind controlled Giant Squids from RA2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #31 Posted January 13, 2017 Nobody mentioned missiles except in the forum. It could be mines, it could be flaming arrows, it could be a giant shark that randomly eats ships. Calm yourself dearie .... True, no official statement on the subject. Yet, the possible options are limited and unguided missiles were indeed a thing in WWII. I'd prefer a kraken that eats camping and HE flinging BBs, scond row torping douchebaguettes and HE spamming clusters of CL chickens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #32 Posted January 13, 2017 Well, now I want my Currywurst floatplane converted to a FW Condor able to drop Fritz-X's and launch Henschel Hs 293's! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RN-GF] EvilBob Beta Tester 92 posts 6,880 battles Report post #33 Posted January 13, 2017 True, no official statement on the subject. Yet, the possible options are limited and unguided missiles were indeed a thing in WWII. I'd prefer a kraken that eats camping and HE flinging BBs, scond row torping douchebaguettes and HE spamming clusters of CL chickens. An unguided missile is a rocket, big difference. Yes there were plenty of rockets in WWII also a few very early guided bombs (Fritz X) and missiles (V1, V2), but as far as i'm aware nothing ship to ship. I know of rockets being fired from ships at planes/land targets (UP on King George Class, specialised landing boats), and planes shooting rockets / guided bombs at ships (Roma, Warspite). (someone please correct me if i'm wrong) I'd rather not see missiles anywhere near this game, certain ship characteristics are bit far fetched as it is without introducing this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bladezfist Players 349 posts 2,320 battles Report post #34 Posted January 13, 2017 Pigeon guided bombs added to the bastion mode. AI now a third team that can claim victory for itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #35 Posted January 13, 2017 Last of the Gearings, Netzahualcóyotl of the Mexican Navy, was decomissioned in 2014 :p If they put that one out as a premium ship, I'll buy her simply for the name! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #36 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) An unguided missile is a rocket, big difference. Yes there were plenty of rockets in WWII also a few very early guided bombs (Fritz X) and missiles (V1, V2), but as far as i'm aware nothing ship to ship. I know of rockets being fired from ships at planes/land targets (UP on King George Class, specialised landing boats), and planes shooting rockets / guided bombs at ships (Roma, Warspite). (someone please correct me if i'm wrong) I'd rather not see missiles anywhere near this game, certain ship characteristics are bit far fetched as it is without introducing this. I was searching a bit, and also could not find any ship-to-ship rockets ever used in WW2 Edited January 13, 2017 by Nethraniel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #37 Posted January 13, 2017 I'd rather not see missiles anywhere near this game, certain ship characteristics are bit far fetched as it is without introducing this. All depends on how realistic they'd make them 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #38 Posted January 13, 2017 All depends on how realistic they'd make them looks like the perfect Missile-Destroyer for all the BBabies out there... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander93 Beta Tester 990 posts 3,431 battles Report post #39 Posted January 13, 2017 It doesn't matter in the slightest what year a ship was built, only its capabilities. And even capabilities don't really matter anyway since WG can just buff or nerf specifications as they see fit. Like with the Cleveland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torpedobeatz Players 61 posts 170 battles Report post #40 Posted January 13, 2017 Secret prototype... In any case, bear in mind that a lot of navies had their shipbuilding interrupted by war - "cold war era" ship may not necessarily mean "cold war era design" (case in point: Chapayev class, construction started in 1939, finished in 1950). In the same way, post-war cruiser projects or destroyers of Project 56 (built in 1955-1958 time frame) were firmly planted in the "gun" era - in a similar way as while being modern, say M60 tank in WoT is stills ticking to the classic era (rifled gun, no composite armor...). You can expect for example many such ships with French or other navies - only USA and, to an extent, Britain had the luxury to build "end of WWII state of the art" ships actually during WWII, rest of the world had to stop completely (Germany, Japan) or play a serious catchup. Super Yamato was planned before the end of the war. As was Unryu, H-44, and H-41. All you've actually said it's that it's okay for Russia to get ships launched in the 50s because designers started them in the 30s. If so, that should apply to Axis powers too. If anything, the Axis powers have the best excuse for getting these designs, as they basically knew they were going to war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #41 Posted January 13, 2017 Super Yamato was planned before the end of the war. As was Unryu, H-44, and H-41. All you've actually said it's that it's okay for Russia to get ships launched in the 50s because designers started them in the 30s. If so, that should apply to Axis powers too. If anything, the Axis powers have the best excuse for getting these designs, as they basically knew they were going to war. Don't you want a giant octopus instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #42 Posted January 13, 2017 Don't you want a giant octopus instead No, I want the real Japanese cold war super project. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #43 Posted January 13, 2017 A guy in a lizard costume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #44 Posted January 13, 2017 A guy in a lizard costume? Kinda odd choice but yeah, guess it could work.. Keep ehm coming people! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOneAndOnlyGoldstein Alpha Tester 474 posts 816 battles Report post #45 Posted January 13, 2017 Secret prototype... In any case, bear in mind that a lot of navies had their shipbuilding interrupted by war - "cold war era" ship may not necessarily mean "cold war era design" (case in point: Chapayev class, construction started in 1939, finished in 1950). In the same way, post-war cruiser projects or destroyers of Project 56 (built in 1955-1958 time frame) were firmly planted in the "gun" era - in a similar way as while being modern, say M60 tank in WoT is stills ticking to the classic era (rifled gun, no composite armor...). You can expect for example many such ships with French or other navies - only USA and, to an extent, Britain had the luxury to build "end of WWII state of the art" ships actually during WWII, rest of the world had to stop completely (Germany, Japan) or play a serious catchup. You are not fooling anyone, I know you are going to release a bias-clad stalinium plated, sekrit document-sourced ship ))))))))))) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #46 Posted January 13, 2017 Super Yamato was planned before the end of the war. As was Unryu, H-44, and H-41. All you've actually said it's that it's okay for Russia to get ships launched in the 50s because designers started them in the 30s. If so, that should apply to Axis powers too. If anything, the Axis powers have the best excuse for getting these designs, as they basically knew they were going to war. Game-play > reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #47 Posted January 13, 2017 Secret prototype... In any case, bear in mind that a lot of navies had their shipbuilding interrupted by war - "cold war era" ship may not necessarily mean "cold war era design" (case in point: Chapayev class, construction started in 1939, finished in 1950). In the same way, post-war cruiser projects or destroyers of Project 56 (built in 1955-1958 time frame) were firmly planted in the "gun" era - in a similar way as while being modern, say M60 tank in WoT is stills ticking to the classic era (rifled gun, no composite armor...). You can expect for example many such ships with French or other navies - only USA and, to an extent, Britain had the luxury to build "end of WWII state of the art" ships actually during WWII, rest of the world had to stop completely (Germany, Japan) or play a serious catchup. Yes. And Soviet navy was even more delayed because they basically ceased all (war)shipbuilding after the Revolution. Know-how was lost and it took decades to recover. Gnevny, Tashkent, Kirov - all Italian designs. Battleships - all pre-revolution models. Soviets tried to design new battleships by themselves, but again Great Purge stopped everything. So their technology was stagnated since 1917, not 1941... Only after WW2 they had resources and acquired the know-how to design and build large warships comparable to what leading navies had 10-15 years earlier - yet those ships were already obsolete at that time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEOND] kodos [LEOND] Alpha Tester 1,222 posts 6,575 battles Report post #48 Posted January 13, 2017 why does russia get cold war era ships because the official time frame for alle 3 World of games is 1900 to 1960 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #49 Posted January 13, 2017 You are not fooling anyone, I know you are going to release a bias-clad stalinium plated, sekrit document-sourced ship ))))))))))) With this as a floatplane... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Tuccy [WG] WG Staff, Alpha Tester 3,516 posts 11,619 battles Report post #50 Posted January 13, 2017 Super Yamato was planned before the end of the war. As was Unryu, H-44, and H-41. All you've actually said it's that it's okay for Russia to get ships launched in the 50s because designers started them in the 30s. If so, that should apply to Axis powers too. If anything, the Axis powers have the best excuse for getting these designs, as they basically knew they were going to war. H-41 is in game - as it was to be, basically, H-39 with 42cm guns mounted. H-44 was nothing more than a study of "what would be needed to have a ship that can withstand air power" and finished with conclusion that it is actually impractical to try to build anything like that. Design A-150 went through quite some axing in the study process and when actual design works started, she would be a slightly enlarged Yamato with more frustrating armament. Unryu does not have currently place in the tech tree (as they were based on Hiryu design with all its drawbacks and would not reach the qualities of Taiho and Super Taiho). So yeah, the same rule applies to the Axis projects too. Or the British cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
