[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #576 Posted June 3, 2017 it will settle down again once it's over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #577 Posted June 3, 2017 The population has been spiked by the hunt the Bismarck campaign, it will settle down again once it's over. Some bonus missions which reward CC players should help as well. BB population has been high for a good while longer than the Bismarck campaign. If the BB queue is way high waiting for random's, just give us a few 12 v 12 BB games. It will be a blast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNBCD] The_White_Whale Players 283 posts 3,035 battles Report post #578 Posted June 3, 2017 BB population has been high for a good while longer than the Bismarck campaign. If the BB queue is way high waiting for random's, just give us a few 12 v 12 BB games. It will be a blast. True, but I can't remember 14+BB games before it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #579 Posted June 5, 2017 I'll just leave this here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzkrieguk Beta Tester 438 posts 3,154 battles Report post #580 Posted June 5, 2017 I'll just leave this here How did I guess this was coming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #581 Posted June 5, 2017 How did I guess this was coming How did I guess it would be tier 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzkrieguk Beta Tester 438 posts 3,154 battles Report post #582 Posted June 5, 2017 How did I guess it would be tier 7 No i knew you'd be in this thread like a shot upon finding out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #583 Posted June 5, 2017 No i knew you'd be in this thread like a shot upon finding out. Well that was kind of obvious really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzkrieguk Beta Tester 438 posts 3,154 battles Report post #584 Posted June 5, 2017 Well that was kind of obvious really. I laughed when I saw the BR. Time to run things over in my battle bunker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #585 Posted June 5, 2017 I laughed when I saw the BR. Time to run things over in my battle bunker I better do the same, pack up food before things go Nuclear on the forums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix_jz Players 74 posts Report post #586 Posted June 7, 2017 Oh, don't worry, NA general discussion did everything short of go up in literal flames when these pictures came out. Should KGV be tier VII, or VIII? Nelson is sea-sawing between tier VI and VIII depending on who you ask, and everyone thinks the Conqueror will be UP. Lion, meanwhile, has been relatively ignored... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #587 Posted June 7, 2017 Oh, don't worry, NA general discussion did everything short of go up in literal flames when these pictures came out. Should KGV be tier VII, or VIII? Nelson is sea-sawing between tier VI and VIII depending on who you ask, and everyone thinks the Conqueror will be UP. Lion, meanwhile, has been relatively ignored... Just like the Yanks to lose their marbles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #588 Posted June 7, 2017 I'll just leave this here You're going to be doing your nut when you read the latest datamined information from Reddit then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #589 Posted June 7, 2017 You're going to be doing your nut when you read the latest datamined information from Reddit then. You mean it is tier 8 with 381mm/45 for the top guns? I already said it wouldn't tier 8 without the 15" guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix_jz Players 74 posts Report post #590 Posted June 8, 2017 You mean it is tier 8 with 381mm/45 for the top guns? I already said it wouldn't tier 8 without the 15" guns. It's tier 8, yes. But the guns are listed as 14"... Although in performance they're 15" guns. 18.15 km range, 27.77 second reload, 1.8 sigma. AP does 11900 damage (high for a 15" gun, nevermind a 14" gun), HE rated at 6300 damage, with 95mm of penetration (a 15" gun with German penetration boost would get you that). I assume they obey the same overmatch rules as 15" guns, but I don't know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #591 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) It's tier 8, yes. But the guns are listed as 14"... Although in performance they're 15" guns. 18.15 km range, 27.77 second reload, 1.8 sigma. AP does 11900 damage (high for a 15" gun, nevermind a 14" gun), HE rated at 6300 damage, with 95mm of penetration (a 15" gun with German penetration boost would get you that). I assume they obey the same overmatch rules as 15" guns, but I don't know for sure. 14" guns as stock and 15" when upgraded, though Wargaming.net need to work on making the 15" guns detached from the B hull and making them the 3x3 and not the unrealistic 2x4, 1x2 set up, but we can expect WG to make bad decisions time and again as is with the L2 when the Lion 1945, equipped with 3x3 16" and 12x2 4.5" RP10 guns, would be a better fit. Edited June 8, 2017 by Chipmunk_of_Vengeance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OEL] Rabid_Turnip Players 367 posts 14,179 battles Report post #592 Posted June 8, 2017 Here are the full datamined modules, armour schemes, and 3D models for these 4 ships here: Nelson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFMZukNGFE&feature=youtu.be King George V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsiMyK23_w&feature=youtu.be Lion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4iZIPQIlE&feature=youtu.be Conqueror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxP61EU4kRs&feature=youtu.be And SEA Group are reporting the rest of the line to be confirmed as: "Roster for low-tier British battleships was finalized. They are Bellerophon (1909) at Tier III, Orion (1912) at Tier IV, Iron Duke (1914) at Tier V, and Queen Elizabeth (1915) at Tier VI." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #593 Posted June 8, 2017 Here are the full datamined modules, armour schemes, and 3D models for these 4 ships here: Nelson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFMZukNGFE&feature=youtu.be King George V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsiMyK23_w&feature=youtu.be Lion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4iZIPQIlE&feature=youtu.be Conqueror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxP61EU4kRs&feature=youtu.be And SEA Group are reporting the rest of the line to be confirmed as: "Roster for low-tier British battleships was finalized. They are Bellerophon (1909) at Tier III, Orion (1912) at Tier IV, Iron Duke (1914) at Tier V, and Queen Elizabeth (1915) at Tier VI." And we'll get Dreadnought eventually as the Tier 3 Premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Killerbin34 WG Staff 260 posts 32,026 battles Report post #594 Posted June 8, 2017 Here are the full datamined modules, armour schemes, and 3D models for these 4 ships here: Nelson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFMZukNGFE&feature=youtu.be King George V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsiMyK23_w&feature=youtu.be Lion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4iZIPQIlE&feature=youtu.be Conqueror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxP61EU4kRs&feature=youtu.be And SEA Group are reporting the rest of the line to be confirmed as: "Roster for low-tier British battleships was finalized. They are Bellerophon (1909) at Tier III, Orion (1912) at Tier IV, Iron Duke (1914) at Tier V, and Queen Elizabeth (1915) at Tier VI." Nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #595 Posted June 8, 2017 Orion at T4 seems a bit too powerful tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EUmofton Players 45 posts Report post #596 Posted June 8, 2017 Orion at T4 seems a bit too powerful tbh. I see Orion as a T4.3, but the alternative Colossus is a T3.3, easier to nerf 0.3 than buff 0.7 IMO. Oh, don't worry, NA general discussion did everything short of go up in literal flames when these pictures came out. Should KGV be tier VII, or VIII? Nelson is sea-sawing between tier VI and VIII depending on who you ask, and everyone thinks the Conqueror will be UP. Lion, meanwhile, has been relatively ignored... Holy moly, you're right - need to put Lion under the microscope! KGV/Nelson unending debate is part of it. I'm not sure on Conqueror, reckon she's either UP or gimmick-cruiser-line 2.0. Kinda hoped cruisers would be the gimmick limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #597 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure on Conqueror, reckon she's either UP or gimmick-cruiser-line 2.0. Kinda hoped cruisers would be the gimmick limit. L2 though, with Vanguard style Modernisation, is a very interesting choice anyway, most people, even if we disagree over the placement of the KGV, can probably agree that the L3 would have been a better choice. And personally I'd have placed in the same line as Nelson, M2 and N3 rather than after the Lion 1944. Edited June 8, 2017 by Chipmunk_of_Vengeance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix_jz Players 74 posts Report post #598 Posted June 12, 2017 Holy moly, you're right - need to put Lion under the microscope! KGV/Nelson unending debate is part of it. I'm not sure on Conqueror, reckon she's either UP or gimmick-cruiser-line 2.0. Kinda hoped cruisers would be the gimmick limit. Lion looks decent, her citadel is nice and snugly packed underwater. The newly buffed Iowa & Montana wish theres were so nice. As for KGV... all I can say is this; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[110] SeaMonsterUK [110] Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 4,379 posts Report post #599 Posted June 12, 2017 Lion looks decent, her citadel is nice and snugly packed underwater. The newly buffed Iowa & Montana wish theres were so nice. As for KGV... all I can say is this; Just Wargaming screwing up again, they need to split both guns and have the 15" guns in 3x3 set up rather than the unrealistic 2x4 and 1x2 set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenix_jz Players 74 posts Report post #600 Posted June 12, 2017 Just Wargaming screwing up again, they need to split both guns and have the 15" guns in 3x3 set up rather than the unrealistic 2x4 and 1x2 set up. As of now, there is no gun upgrade. There's just what's essentially a 4-2-4 setup of 15" guns that are labeled as 14" guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites