British Battleship line for 2017?

[Sea_viper]

 

Realistically representing APBC rounds? LMAO! Special AP rounds doesn't even represent APBC rounds.

 

CPBC =/= APC 

Please read careful before shouting at people.

RNCL never carries APC, rather they carry CPBC, which stands for Common Pointed Ballistic Caped. So the shell have no Armor Piecing cap to defeat face hardened armor makes them shatter more easily. But it have advantage at oblique angles since AP cap would shear off at oblique angles and lead to more bounces.

Hence "special AP" really have its roots from reality and it is much welcomed. 

 

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

CPBC =/= APC 

Please read careful before shouting at people.

RNCL never carries APC, rather they carry CPBC, which stands for Common Pointed Ballistic Caped. So the shell have no Armor Piecing cap to defeat face hardened armor makes them shatter more easily. But it have advantage at oblique angles since AP cap would shear off at oblique angles and lead to more bounces.

Hence "special AP" really have its roots from reality and it is much welcomed. 

 

 

I assumed it was just a typo on your part, and the special AP rules do not represent any of the shells used by the Royal Navy and is not welcome at all.

[Sea_viper]

LOL, I explained to you what CPBC is. If you don't want to learn, I can't force you.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

I don't lack knowledge at all, I know a lot more about British ships and their capabilities than you will EVER know, I also have pretty good understanding and logical thinking, don't like that? Then you can f*ck off, but KGV will always be Tier 7 with those 14" guns, no tier higher, no tier lower, and I don't give a f*ck if that doesn't conform to your beliefs, but at least I'm not a complete knob jockey.

 

Also the AP shells are ineffective against DD's and BB's, one of the problems with the Special AP rounds.

 

You haven't played the ships then. Because actually, it's different from HE, but just as effective.

 

And yeah, you finally cracked  Quite amusing.

The knowledge you have displayed in this forum so far is pretty abysmal. Doubt you had ever even seen navweaps before we showed it to you and that's the basics.

[SeaMonsterUK]

LOL, I explained to you what CPBC is. If you don't want to learn, I can't force you.

 

The fact is, special AP doesn't represent CPBC either.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

You haven't played the ships then. Because actually, it's different from HE, but just as effective.

 

And yeah, you finally cracked  Quite amusing.

The knowledge you have displayed in this forum so far is pretty abysmal. Doubt you had ever even seen navweaps before we showed it to you and that's the basics.

 

I have played the ships, currently on the Fiji, and I've known about Navweps for quite along time since the WT forums, and again, I know more about every ship in the Royal Navy then you ever will, that's minus the paper projects, and like I said, I couldn't give a f*ck what you think.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

I have played the ships, currently on the Fiji, and I've known about Navweps for quite along time since the WT forums, and again, I know more about every ship in the Royal Navy then you ever will, that's minus the paper projects, and like I said, I couldn't give a f*ck what you think.

 

One could write a book about all the completely wrong statements on this forum alone. Now, you also sound like a kid who doesn't want to go to bed

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

One could write a book about all the completely wrong statements on this forum alone. Now, you also sound like a kid who doesn't want to go to bed

 

I'm not a kid, and few of my statements have been wrong, but I can't wait to be proven right about the KGV, I really cannot wait.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

Also...what the heck...are you a griefer? That would explain a lot, but you're still one of the few cases I have ever seen in this game.

[SeaMonsterUK]

Also...what the heck...are you a griefer? That would explain a lot, but you're still one of the few cases I have ever seen in this game.

 

I'm not a griefer at all.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

I'm not a griefer at all.

 

Mate, your stats suggest you regularly throw games despite clearly being capable of performing better. Really gives perspective on what you are writing here.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

Mate, your stats suggest you regularly throw games despite clearly being capable of performing better. Really gives perspective on what you are writing here.

 

I'm not throwing games away at all.

[Sea_viper]

 

The fact is, special AP doesn't represent CPBC either.

Such a powerful argument! I am amazed!

Now seriously, I won't be surprised if the representation is not accurate, but saying it is not a representation at all without justification at all is not convincing from someone who claimed to have overwhelming knowledge about the subject

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

I'm not throwing games away at all.

 

Sure. I also congratulate you on your 15 games with mid tier British cruisers, which were all terrible.

Maybe you shouldn't blame the AP for your lack of damage and blame yourself. You shoot at the wrong targets and you shoot at the wrong places. And then, you likely rage and quit. "Knowledge", hm?

[SeaMonsterUK]

Such a powerful argument! I am amazed!

Now seriously, I won't be surprised if the representation is not accurate, but saying it is not a representation at all without justification at all is not convincing from someone who claimed to have overwhelming knowledge about the subject

 

I said the ships, not the ammunition, and besides that, you put this down:

So the shell have no Armor Piecing cap to defeat face hardened armor

 

Wouldn't that mean I shouldn't be penetrating the turret of an Arizona with the Fiji? Considering that 18"

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

Sure. I also congratulate you on your 15 games with mid tier British cruisers, which were all terrible.

Maybe you shouldn't blame the AP for your lack of damage and blame yourself. You shoot at the wrong targets and you shoot at the wrong places. And then, you likely rage and quit. "Knowledge", hm?

 

The problem is with the AP shells, great for taking out other cruisers, but they aren't great at all against anything smaller or bigger, and my games are contributed to playing them aggressively.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

The problem is with the AP shells, great for taking out other cruisers, but they aren't great at all against anything smaller or bigger, and my games are contributed to playing them aggressively.

 

It's just factually wrong. Thousands of players prove you are just completely and absolutely wrong.

I averaged 76k damage with the Leander, how have I done that? Wizardry, or what?

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

It's just factually wrong. Thousands of players prove you are just completely and absolutely wrong.

I averaged 76k damage with the Leander, how have I done that? Wizardry, or what?

 

It's factually correct, as I said, the AP shells work wonders on Cruisers, but not on Battleships or Destroyers.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

It's factually correct, as I said, the AP shells work wonders on Cruisers, but not on Battleships or Destroyers.

 

You really are daft. Of course it's not you playing terrible, it's the shells which do not work! Since you are this knowledgeable, it's clearly not your mistake.

 

I need to ask that Kagero I shot for 10k with one salvo from my Edinburgh yesterday how he feels about my shells not working.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

You really are daft. Of course it's not you playing terrible, it's the shells which do not work! Since you are this knowledgeable, it's clearly not your mistake.

 

I need to ask that Kagero I shot for 10k with one salvo from my Edinburgh yesterday how he feels about my shells not working.

 

Really? Most I've done with a Destroyer with the British AP shells is 3K, even a full salvo with most hitting only produced 1K of damage with the Fiji.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

Really? Most I've done with a Destroyer with the British AP shells is 3K, even a full salvo with most hitting only produced 1K of damage with the Fiji.

 

Yup, because your aim is bad and you shoot at the wrong targets.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

Yup, because your aim is bad and you shoot at the wrong targets.

 

My aim isn't bad and I am shooting at the right targets.

[Sea_viper]

"The fact is, special AP doesn't represent CPBC either."

It is your own words...

 

Now the why would you even bring up the turret face of Arizona... Both Cleveland with APC or Fiji with CPBC won't penetrate at any useful ranges... 

[SeaMonsterUK]

"The fact is, special AP doesn't represent CPBC either."

It is your own words...

 

Now the why would you even bring up the turret face of Arizona... Both Cleveland with APC or Fiji with CPBC won't penetrate at any useful ranges... 

 

Yet I was able to penetrate the turret face of the Arizona with the Fiji. As you said it's CPBC, it shouldn't be able to penetrate Face Hardened Armour or Thick armour slabs.

[Earl_of_Northesk]

 

Yet I was able to penetrate the turret face of the Arizona with the Fiji. As you said it's CPBC, it shouldn't be able to penetrate Face Hardened Armour or Thick armour slabs.

 

You weren't.