British Battleship line for 2017?

[Arctiheat_]

 

Actually other nations tended to go with fast Battleships rather than Battlecruisers, but they more or less were the same thing in some context when you make comparison with British Battlecruisers, like Admiral and G3 for example. As for CV's, Britain tended to sacrifice Air group numbers for better deck armour.

 

but the BCs wouldnt be at all competitive past tier 7/8 becasue of iowa and the like as they are as fast with as good guns but miles better armour

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

I just want to avoid other people taking you seriously as well, so I will call out your mistakes again and again. And there's a ton of them.

Actually there isn't many mistakes at all. And I have a horrible habit of being within my calculations.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

but the BCs wouldnt be at all competitive past tier 7/8 becasue of iowa and the like as they are as fast with as good guns but miles better armour

 

Battlecruisers tend to have an edge in speed though,

[Arctiheat_]

 

Battlecruisers tend to have an edge in speed though,

 

not a considerable one on iowa and montana they also stopped being built in favour of KGV so if you guys are saying KGV is teir 7 hood and her sisters in the BC line are tier 5-7 only

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

not a considerable one on iowa and montana they also stopped being built in favour of KGV so if you guys are saying KGV is teir 7 hood and her sisters in the BC line are tier 5-7 only

 

G3 class and up are still Battlecruisers, but are closer to what the US navy would consider a Fast Battleship.

[Arctiheat_]

 

G3 class and up are still Battlecruisers, but are closer to what the US navy would consider a Fast Battleship.

 

fair enough but i still dont think that we built enough DIFFERENT varitants that it warrants its own line that couldn't just be squished into the BB line

[shockinhockin]

Having read all this I'm still on the camp of KGV working fine as a tier 8 above nelson at 7, with hood joining at teir 7 it just makes sence to me for this to be the case even if this means the gun calibre is up and down a bit through the tree.

 

This has all been discussed / argued about for months and months now. And almost all the ground has been covered. We will just have to wait and see what WG descided to go with and then see if we like the outcome or not.

 

Iv got my idea of the tree but as long as the ships are decent il just be happy to have some more Royal Navy battleships to play with. Just add some RN dds and CVs and il have no need for my old yank ships anymore and it will be a case of keep calm and carry on gentlemen

[Arctiheat_]

Having read all this I'm still on the camp of KGV working fine as a tier 8 above nelson at 7, with hood joining at teir 7 it just makes sence to me for this to be the case even if this means the gun calibre is up and down a bit through the tree.

 

This has all been discussed / argued about for months and months now. And almost all the ground has been covered. We will just have to wait and see what WG descided to go with and then see if we like the outcome or not.

 

Iv got my idea of the tree but as long as the ships are decent il just be happy to have some more Royal Navy battleships to play with. Just add some RN dds and CVs and il have no need for my old yank ships anymore and it will be a case of keep calm and carry on gentlemen

 

^^^

sounds good 

i'm sure they'll make it work

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

fair enough but i still dont think that we built enough DIFFERENT varitants that it warrants its own line that couldn't just be squished into the BB line

There are at least 4 to 5 different BC designs that fit in the game from Tier 7, replacing HMS Hood, upto to Tier 10:

F3 - Tier 7, basically a ship that was developed further into the O3 Battleships, the O3 essentially became what we know as the Nelson class Battleship

J3 - Tier 8, like the F3, it was armed with 3x3 15" guns, but followed the same design path as the Admiral class

G3 - Tier 9, this was the first true Fast Battleship design that Britain came up with, still a Battlecruiser but it's often accredited as a True British Fast BB, armed with 3x3 16" guns

K3 - This was designed before the G3, but in terms of placement, it would come after with 3x3 18" guns

Having read all this I'm still on the camp of KGV working fine as a tier 8 above nelson at 7, with hood joining at teir 7 it just makes sence to me for this to be the case even if this means the gun calibre is up and down a bit through the tree.

 

This has all been discussed / argued about for months and months now. And almost all the ground has been covered. We will just have to wait and see what WG descided to go with and then see if we like the outcome or not.

 

Iv got my idea of the tree but as long as the ships are decent il just be happy to have some more Royal Navy battleships to play with. Just add some RN dds and CVs and il have no need for my old yank ships anymore and it will be a case of keep calm and carry on gentlemen

KGV would be better off at Tier 7, Nelson is more likely to appear in a slow BB line along with M2, N3 and L3, KGV would also, with a nerf to AA, but competitive at Tier 7, long as we keep the realistic slow traversing turrets which should represent the unreliability of the guns in real life, either that or giving the KGV the 3x3 15" guns it was meant to have to make it competitive, but Nelson would still be better placed in a slow BB line.

[Arctiheat_]

There are at least 4 to 5 different BC designs that fit in the game from Tier 7, replacing HMS Hood, upto to Tier 10:

F3 - Tier 7, basically a ship that was developed further into the O3 Battleships, the O3 essentially became what we know as the Nelson class Battleship

J3 - Tier 8, like the F3, it was armed with 3x3 15" guns, but followed the same design path as the Admiral class

G3 - Tier 9, this was the first true Fast Battleship design that Britain came up with, still a Battlecruiser but it's often accredited as a True British Fast BB, armed with 3x3 16" guns

K3 - This was designed before the G3, but in terms of placement, it would come after with 3x3 18" guns

KGV would be better off at Tier 7, Nelson is more likely to appear in a slow BB line along with M2, N3 and L3, KGV would also, with a nerf to AA, but competitive at Tier 7, long as we keep the realistic slow traversing turrets which should represent the unreliability of the guns in real life, either that or giving the KGV the 3x3 15" guns it was meant to have to make it competitive, but Nelson would still be better placed in a slow BB line.

as you said a bb in the bc line, kinda defeats the point?

[SeaMonsterUK]

as you said a bb in the bc line, kinda defeats the point?

 

F3, J3, G3 and K3 are all Battlecruisers, but the G3 is often accredited as being a true Fast Battleship design.

[Arctiheat_]

 

F3, J3, G3 and K3 are all Battlecruisers, but the G3 is often accredited as being a true Fast Battleship design.

 

it could work but i think that WG wont do it atleast not untill they have got a french BB line and a italian BB line however i think that its overdoing it and theyre more likely to use g3 in the BB line as tier 9 or something than have a whole BC line after all you said it is a fast BB

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

it could work but i think that WG wont do it atleast not untill they have got a french BB line and a italian BB line however i think that its overdoing it and theyre more likely to use g3 in the BB line as tier 9 or something than have a whole BC line after all you said it is a fast BB

 

I never said it was a fast BB, but more accredited as one, but I think we will get both the fast and slow BB lines to accompany the main BB line for the British, this way it fully represents the entire tree, I also think we'll get the French BBs and British BBs at the same time.

[Arctiheat_]

 

I never said it was a fast BB, but more accredited as one, but I think we will get both the fast and slow BB lines to accompany the main BB line for the British, this way it fully represents the entire tree, I also think we'll get the French BBs and British BBs at the same time.

 

maybe but i think that will be too many ships but idk

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

maybe but i think that will be too many ships but idk

 

Too many ships? Don't think that's even in my vocabulary.

[Arctiheat_]

 

Too many ships? Don't think that's even in my vocabulary.

 

no as in too many ships on one plate to do french and british at the same time, also having so many british ships may make it too complicated and to learn what to do for each may be quite long

note MAY

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

no as in too many ships on one plate to do french and british at the same time, also having so many british ships may make it too complicated and to learn what to do for each may be quite long

note MAY

 

I think it'll be fun none the less to have 3 Battleship lines.

[Arctiheat_]

 

I think it'll be fun none the less to have 3 Battleship lines.

 

yeah

[Exocet6951]

 

You are aware that the North Carolina doesn't reach that kind of thickness at any part of her belt? I mean, you are not of course, but I still felt the other people here deserve to know.

 

 

I had a doubt because I haven't used the imperial system in 15 years, then entered the numbers on the calculator and saw 350mm.

 

I lol'd at weakspot.

A spot so weak it's actually stronger than most armor belts in the game.

 

 

Better downtier it to tier6, just to be safe with that glaring weakspot and all 

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

 

I had a doubt because I haven't used the imperial system in 15 years, then entered the numbers on the calculator and saw 350mm.

 

I lol'd at weakspot.

A spot so weak it's actually stronger than most armor belts in the game.

 

 

Better downtier it to tier6, just to be safe with that glaring weakspot and all 

 

You're quite bad at sarcasm. But in terms of her armour scheme it is a weak spot.

[Exocet6951]

 

You're quite bad at sarcasm. But in terms of her armour scheme it is a weak spot.

 

Just because you don't like it making fun of you doesn't mean it's bad.

Also, you're quite good at turning minor details that can't possibly even be considered a flaw, seeing as it's still better than anything else at that tier, and turning it into a reason to further your own agenda.

 

That's a trait reserved for politicians and lawyers, both universally considered as scum.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

Just because you don't like it making fun of you doesn't mean it's bad.

Also, you're quite good at turning minor details that can't possibly even be considered a flaw, seeing as it's still better than anything else at that tier, and turning it into a reason to further your own agenda.

 

That's a trait reserved for politicians and lawyers, both universally considered as scum.

 

I never I didn't like being made fun of, just that your sarcasm is just bad. And it's 349.25mm not 350mm. And I'm not using anything to further my agenda in anyway, but don't blame me when the KGV is the worst ship of Tier 8 (which it undoubtedly will if they put it there, that I'm over 100% certain of).

[Exocet6951]

 

I never I didn't like being made fun of, just that your sarcasm is just bad. And it's 349.25mm not 350mm. And I'm not using anything to further my agenda in anyway, but don't blame me when the KGV is the worst ship of Tier 8 (which it undoubtedly will if they put it there, that I'm over 100% certain of).

 

Woah woah woah, 0.75mm less than what I said?

That changes everything.

That settles it guys the KGV should go tier7.

 

 

On an unrelated note, have you ever considered going into politics.

You'd fit right in.

[SeaMonsterUK]

 

Woah woah woah, 0.75mm less than what I said?

That changes everything.

That settles it guys the KGV should go tier7.

 

 

On an unrelated note, have you ever considered going into politics.

You'd fit right in.

You still need to improve your sarcasm, it's terrible.

 

Infact, I was not using it at all to further my agenda, I was using it to further my argument that it wouldn't be overpowered at Tier 7, just in case you don't know the difference, I've included a hyperlink to both.

[shockinhockin]

KGV would be better off at Tier 7, Nelson is more likely to appear in a slow BB line along with M2, N3 and L3, KGV would also, with a nerf to AA, but competitive at Tier 7, long as we keep the realistic slow traversing turrets which should represent the unreliability of the guns in real life, either that or giving the KGV the 3x3 15" guns it was meant to have to make it competitive, but Nelson would still be better placed in a slow BB line.

It's seems you believe that I'm getting involved one this subject again. I'm not. 

it's all been covered before and we will soon see what the outcome is when the ships turn up. It does seem however that you feel the need to have an answer for everything. Can you not just except that others have different views and simply wait to see what WG does?