WG 2017 plans

[allufewig]

Mines would increase the camping in game by exponential amounts... No idea how missiles would work but I'd rather have those in game than mines as mediocre players wouldn't get lol 1 shotted.

 

 

Agreed. I have no idea how mines could be designed to not be a total game-passivating cancerfest.

[Horin728]

I'd rather hope they will do something about the Z-52, it is so underwhelming... 

[Runner357]

I too hope they fix the German destroyers. They all are a big joke at the moment.

[HotshotJimmy]

Well they talked very briefly about RN ships so fingers crossed we can see some more interesting ships fairly soon. I know squat about French and Italian ships minus the Dunkerque so can't really comment on them. As for post war ships that could be a very interesting addition. Isn't there a few already in WoW?

[BCHood]

Well they talked very briefly about RN ships so fingers crossed we can see some more interesting ships fairly soon. I know squat about French and Italian ships minus the Dunkerque so can't really comment on them. As for post war ships that could be a very interesting addition. Isn't there a few already in WoW?

 

Yep, obvious example Mikhail Kutuzov, post-war designs aren't new, though missile ships will be.

Yes, finger crossed for RN BBs and DDs personally, since we don't know the number of lines, they might do the CV one as well.

French have unique designs, attractive looking ships, and will offer a different playstyle, I am personally very looking forward to any French line they add, though enjoying BBs and cruisers the most, those two is what I'm hoping for.

Italians, I don't think we will see in 2017, besides a premium or max two premiums. If I had to venture a guess, probably a T8 premium Italian cruiser, or an even tiered BB (Vittorio Venetto?), basing this on KM premiums, we got teased by a BB and a cruiser, both high tier. I see Italians being added if French bares fruit and people buy the italian premiums, most likely first line in 2018, if the RN BBs get added this year, because it seems it's (Italian) very popular. My speculation, but I think that's how it's gonna go.

[fumtu]

The introduction of ships that carried missiles in real-life might be a possibility, but I imagine they would remove the missiles on those and only keep the main guns/torpedoes.

 

While this could be case with some dd equipped with SAM in the Kildin's case this is not a posibility. Kildin class was designed and build as a anti-ship missile platform, first of that kind in the world if I'm not wrong. Except its missiles it don't have much of other weapons, one quadruple torpedo launcher and 4 quadruple 57mm AA mountings, which in wows would be considered as a very weak dd. It never has any guns that could be use as a main armament. But you are right, this is just a speculation. But the fact is that 2017 plans video shows Kildin class destroyer. We will see what they intend to do with it.

[Venom_Too]

I like it.

 

I wanna have the HMS Hood... HMS Rodney... HMS Nelson... ... And the new RU DD's....

 

And the New Armament is plz Kamikaze Pilots for CV

[fumtu]

 

But they already gave us this at WGfest:

 

Considering these are all post war ships I'd expect them to be the last ships on the branch so  Smeliy tier 8, Neustrashimy tier 9 andProject 56 will be tier 10 I'd assume so either Kotlin or Kildin (56M), not both. However the image used at WGfest seems to have the front turret which points to Kotlin.

 

But mostly I just hope that they won't do anti ship missile in WoWs. I mean this is a bloody guided missile while the IJN DD and BB tech tree ends with ships launched in 1941/42. Missiles have no place in this game.

 

I'm not 100% certain but I am fairly sure that the devs also said that they wouldn't be including such advanced weapons either. Their justifciation for using post-war designs was that gun technology didn't develop much further after the war so it would be somewhat balanced. So far they have given no indication that they are introducing missiles into the game and refered to the branches as destroyer leader and artillery destroyer. I'd also doubt they'd introduce a ship without a main battery (that is not a CV obviously).

 

Ship in that image is Kotlin class indeed. But also ship in the video is a Kildin class. They never specifically said that there will be only three destroyers. On the news page stays

 

Expect ships like Smelyi, Neustrashimyi and the Project 56 destroyers!

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/2017-plan-spotlight/

 

So there could be a more destroyers in the alternate branch than just three shown there. And to me Smeliy is more T7 material than T8.

 

[Sander93]

Missile ships? 1980s Iowa please.

[Panocek]

so that opens the gates for this 

 

fixed

 

Every Wargaming, and warthunder for that fact, game, just HAS to include god-damn Cold War stuff.

 

Why? Why? WHY?? What  is so wrong with leaving it from WW1 to the end of WW2???  Inclusion of missiles will just lead to inclusion of lot more cold war stuff on the slippery slope, Jet planes will come back...goddammit...

 

There is only so much stuff you can add from WW1-WW2 period and plenty of that is similar to each other. In WoWs terms, you and WG will be hard pressed to make any meaningful differences between RU and French gunboat DDs. IIRC Italians had number of large DDs as well, American light cruisers were build around the same good old 6"/47 PewPewKanone and had rather little "WoWs important" differences.

 

Power creep to keep players interested in new content is other option as well

[Exocet6951]

 

How is that post ridiculing the French navy? it isn't even mentioned in there. 

 

You should head over to the "Italian fan made tree" thread, then come back.

The amount of filth in there about the French, and the butthurt is phenomenal.

 

Italian fanboys are almost as bad as British fanboys right now, and it's devastating since I would have loved to see a Italian CA line this year, but now I'd rather just not just in spite.

[Takeda92]

 

Uhm, that's kinda unlikely considering, you know, the iJN got dissolved after WW2.

Any viable (read: non-missile) JMSDF cold-war DD would either be a Fletcher or thoroughly lacking in both gun and torpedo armament.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayanami-class_destroyer

 

This is the 2nd class of DD the Japanese had after WW2. 6 american 3"/50 guns, even lower caliber than Akizuki, and 4 torpedoes.

 

The 2 other classes that comes after this are a bit complicated because they have mixed gun caliber (both 3" and 5") and they start to lose torpedoes for rockets and depth charges, but if the Soviet are gonna have rockets they why not the Japanese too?

 

Yes none of them look viable to be a decent high-tier DD if its just guns and torps, but if they gonna add post-war ship then maybe they can be considered, at least one of them.

[fumtu]

... but if the Soviet are gonna have rockets they why not the Japanese too?

 

There are two obvious problems there:

1. They are not Soviet
2. Even worse, they are Japanese

 

[Verdius]

 

Any viable (read: non-missile) JMSDF cold-war DD would either be a Fletcher

 

At least that would make IJN high tiers competivive. 

 

Honestly I just hope that they are not going to introduce something so game and immersion breaking as guided missiles for the sole purpose of being able to put in more glorious stronk soviet boats because they are running out of soviet gun armed ships.

[Cosseria]

 

You should head over to the "Italian fan made tree" thread, then come back.

The amount of filth in there about the French, and the butthurt is phenomenal.

 

Italian fanboys are almost as bad as British fanboys right now, and it's devastating since I would have loved to see a Italian CA line this year, but now I'd rather just not just in spite.

 

I assume that your hostility is justified by the complete absence of biased opinions and silly jokes about "les macaronis" in the French forum.

[Exocet6951]

 

I assume that your hostility is justified by the complete absence of biased opinions and silly jokes about "les macaronis" in the French forum.

 

Considering you have to actually look for those, while you can just head over to any French or Italian branch discussion and see butthurt Italians, my hostility is justified, yes.

 

I was just as hostile to RN fanboys, who used the same buzzwords such as "deserve" "historical importance" "actions during the war".

Both are despicable.

[Cosseria]

 

Considering you have to actually look for those, while you can just head over to any French or Italian branch discussion and see butthurt Italians, my hostility is justified, yes.

 

I was just as hostile to RN fanboys, who used the same buzzwords such as "deserve" "historical importance" "actions during the war".

Both are despicable.

The choice is yours. You can keep on grieving because of some deceived kids writing BS, or just come to terms with the fact that there will always be idiots reviving staunch nationalistic rivalries, and get over it.

[Gnirf]

Regarding French/Italy ships and performance.

 

The Victor will write history. Some of the battles have been somewhat revaluated today.

First WNT limited French navy a lot compared with RN/USN/IJN far lower than historic size. France laid in the post WW1 economy in the military downsizing much of its Resources on the Maginot line and army.

Italian navy were also a Mussolini show thing and was often not risked as it was not in his best interest to actively seek battle. On paper some of the ships were quite interesting.

Zara-class despite mauled at Matapan were probably very strong ships. See how wargaming makes up for the dispersion (shellquality) in game. Armourwise they are strong.

 

The French contre -torpeillurs were intented often in 3 ship divisions for often independent strategic scouting and raiding purposes in the Med so not specifically built to counter the standard destroyers despite its name. French had ordinary destroyers for fleet work. Often these 3 DDs were intented to be able to match a Italian light cruisers if caught singlehanded.

 

I look forward to the new branches.

 

 

 

[triumphgt6]

This game should be just that - a game. It is always fun to play with those ships which were the most famous or which were held in the highest regard and clearly this will often depend on where one lives.I would like to see as many counties represented in the game as possible. Both French and Italian navies boasted some wonderful ships but for political reasons, neither were seen in their best light. That does not make the ships or indeed those who sailed in them any less worthy than any other nation. All nations have a good share of heroes and villains - the victors will tend to remember their heroes and remind the vanquished of their villains. In truth, we are all human and share the same frailties. Therefore the more countries represented the better.

 

[thestaggy]

More ship branches for the British tree

 

Branches? Plural. Battleships and. . .

[Kazomir]

 

Branches? Plural. Battleships and. . .

Well, DDs, duh.

[Comrad_StaIin]

Well, DDs, duh.

 

or CVs

[Panocek]

 

or CVs

 

Two branches of BB will do

[von_Boeg]

Power creep to keep players interested in new content is other option as well

 

Do not think so, cold war stuff and missiles for Soviet ships will break the WWII feeling once and for all.

[Cpl_johan11]

Don't get me wrong, i do want French ships in the game...hell, the dunkerque is the only BB i like, and i'm curious to see what their other branches are like...what winds me up is that there's still not the slightest hint of even an italian premium however. This would make France coming first a lot easier to digest...and make the wait easier. I will also not deny that i'm still far more excited for Italy than France, as none of the French ships really have names that are connected to any true naval battles during WW2 (i don't count the British attacking the French at anchor as a naval battle, given that the French were moored there and did not really get a fair fight as such). Is this because of nationalism? No, because i'm Belgian (and NOT of italian descent)...and i don't agree with anti French, or anti Italian jokes but i do understand why people are upset about the announcement. Ask random WW2 enthousiasts something about the French navy and most won't know what you're on about. Ask them about Italy and they'll at least now Italian defeats against the RN, and the names of ships involved. It's a bit pointless continuing this discussion though - they won't change their development schedule. The Italian navy better be next after France though...any of the other potentials would struggle to fill their branches, Italy would not.