Co-op

[MuddyMo]

Co-op credit earning is way too low for how much a tier 8 ship costs too repair. either the credit earning should be improved or the repair cost should be reduced in co-op

[Smeggo]

You get 25% maintenance returned after the battle. With premium time / ships you can do really good. 

[waxx25]

Co-op credit earning is way too low for how much a tier 8 ship costs too repair. either the credit earning should be improved or the repair cost should be reduced in co-op

 

you need to play against other players. You want low risk gameplay then dont expect high returns in co-op.

[SV_Kompresor]

There's a very good solution...don't play coop

[mtm78]

Co-op credit earning is way too low for how much a tier 8 ship costs too repair. either the credit earning should be improved or the repair cost should be reduced in co-op

 

Or you should not play tier 8 coop and expect results which differ from what you're getting now. Low investment of skills -> low returns in xp and credits, as it should be. 

[bushwacker001]

Co-op for me is a way to play at work at lunchtimes on a shitty computer with a crap GPU using my 5 ARP embarrassing, multi coloured, daft looking boats to get their doubles and some easy XP. 

 

Co-op is funny sometimes....humans apologising to bots on the same side for collisions, humans calling enemy bots noobs and hackers after being sunk. I really hope some of them are joking. 

[mtm78]

Co-op is funny sometimes....humans apologising to bots on the same side for collisions, humans calling enemy bots noobs and hackers after being sunk. I really hope some of them are joking. 

 

Ow man you should have been in my last coop match me and my division were trolling the bots so hard

 

They never said anything back though

[Vaderan]

These days, there are three ways to deal with WoWs.

 

1.) Go PvP, get the team with the tomatoes, do the best you can, take down 3+ reds, receive their salty comments, end as best player of the defeated team.

2.) Go CoOp, get the team with the tomatoes, do the best you can, take down 3+ reds, receive no salty comments, maybe end as best player of the victorious team.

3.) leave WoWs and play an enjoyable game with less rage factor.

 

Seriously, the average player performance in this game has gone way below the tolerable. Against players, you don´t just have to deal with your team in a 1vs 29 situation, but aswell with that wonderfull RNG, preventing your well deserved success, only gaining you frustration, rage and salty comments.

Funny though, PvE appears to have become the hard mode of the game: less income, enemies which automatically hit your weakspots/citadells and either bots or worse human players as teammates.

I seriously understand those who complain about bad PvE economy. Sick of PvP, players try to squeeze at least some fun out of this game from PvE, just to stick with the game, and get treated like some sort of lower caste players.

[Artech52]

Speaking as someone who plays far more co-op than PVP: Umm, no.

 

This gamemode is nearly impossible to lose, and is rewarded accordingly. Sorry but you need to deal with that. I play it because I enjoy it, not to make money.

[Acetessigester]

I had played no PVP for a long time. Recently I tried several PVP again but found nothing changed since the old time. Many players, no matter in your team or in the other, are still giving their team crap and making your fight meanless. I would rather turn to PVE to keep away from most of them. Hope you can enjoy the game, for nothing but fun.

[mtm78]

I had played no PVP for a long time. Recently I tried several PVP again but found nothing changed since the old time. Many players, no matter in your team or in the other, are still giving their team crap and making your fight meanless. I would rather turn to PVE to keep away from most of them. Hope you can enjoy the game, for nothing but fun.

 

There is a mod which disables chat Would allow you to play against humans which should be more enjoyable then bots if you can ignore the 'crap' they give each other I guess? You can't talk with the division mates you're playing with though. 

[T0L0S]

Atm I play mostly co op, due to the fact I have to afk a lot, and I think the rewards are probably alittle to high if im honest. Hell its nearly impossible to lose. You get decent rewards for absolutely no effort.

 

Most of the time im watching tv or clearning up after my son and I still make credits and mostly finish top of the xp.

[Nechrom]

Atm I play mostly co op, due to the fact I have to afk a lot, and I think the rewards are probably alittle to high if im honest. Hell its nearly impossible to lose. You get decent rewards for absolutely no effort.

 

Most of the time im watching tv or clearning up after my son and I still make credits and mostly finish top of the xp.

 

The best reason to actually play co-op I've seen so far.

[SerPurr]

Just don't play Co-op. Besides Co-op being populated by the very worst of the worst who are too cowardly to join in real PvP fights, it's not intended to be played beyond your first 4 or so practise rounds.
People who still play Co-op seem to not understand this simple rule. If it were up to me I'd actually force players who insist on playing Co-op, to pay a monthly contribution to those actually wanting a real Random Battle.

That and a giant pink 'Pussy' badge for their forum avatars. Just ask yourself what seperates the boys from the men and decide accordingly.

 

[Hedgehog1963]

There's a very good solution...don't play coop

 

Stop! Imagine if he played on your team in PvP.

[SV_Kompresor]

 

Stop! Imagine if he played on your team in PvP.

 

Well he could just start with tier 1

[Skyllon]

Well... I got once torped in Co-Op by ally, because he didn't like the fact I was shooting the same ship he wanted to torp... Good times!

 

When I started with WoWs I played like 400 battles in PvE to learn my way around. But then I experimented with PvP and noticed even loosing battles yielded at least 4 times the same amount of experience and never looked back. Grind in PvE must take ages. And most nice rewards cannot be earned in PvE.

 

PvP can be frustrating at times but is also neverending source of amusement. Lot more opponents means more ships to sink. Gives more credits and xp. And play for objectives is more satisfying, especially when people cooperate, which happens more often them many are willing to admit. And it is a nice feeling when you outplay the enemy.

[BCHood]

PVE mode(s) is in the works, it will bring atleast similar experience to Haloween event, probably better, and I suspect it will give better rewards.  For now, people need to understand two things, xp is okin coop because its generally easier mode and that people that play coop aren't lower or inferior to manly epeen [edited]but instead prefer different game mode, as they still might prefer the game, in fact if you ever bothered checking T8 coop its filled with tirpitzes and scharnies,  coop crowd support the game as well.  

 

Last but not least, some of us random players like the change of pace, and sometimes only wish to finish that daily bonus on that one ship that you constantly is unlucky to get potato teams and a dozen losses in random, so you queue coop knowing if you give your best you're probably be highest player and have tons of fun. Most importantly,  finish bonus on that ship and get back to something called real life.  And if that makes people pussies... Then I guess were all pussies since all of average random players will do occasional coop for the reasons stated earlier. 

[Procrastes]

The choice between PvP and PvE is a matter of personal preference. Me, I prefer to have real people on both sides - there's just no way they can make an AI player to be even one tenth as entertaining an opponent, as even the worst the vast majority of real people players.

I would welcome some well thought-out PvE scenarios though, such as the last Halloween special. They could build some kind of convoy scenarios, perhaps?

[ilhilh]

These days, there are three ways to deal with WoWs.

 

1.) Go PvP, get the team with the tomatoes, do the best you can, take down 3+ reds, receive their salty comments, end as best player of the defeated team.

2.) Go CoOp, get the team with the tomatoes, do the best you can, take down 3+ reds, receive no salty comments, maybe end as best player of the victorious team.

3.) leave WoWs and play an enjoyable game with less rage factor.

 

Seriously, the average player performance in this game has gone way below the tolerable. Against players, you don´t just have to deal with your team in a 1vs 29 situation, but aswell with that wonderfull RNG, preventing your well deserved success, only gaining you frustration, rage and salty comments.

Funny though, PvE appears to have become the hard mode of the game: less income, enemies which automatically hit your weakspots/citadells and either bots or worse human players as teammates.

I seriously understand those who complain about bad PvE economy. Sick of PvP, players try to squeeze at least some fun out of this game from PvE, just to stick with the game, and get treated like some sort of lower caste players.

 

If they are automatically hitting your citadel then that is because you are presenting them with your citadel.  The predictability of the bots mean that this simply shouldn't happen.  PvE is not the hard mode.

 

Also, if you are always on the tomato team then how is that easier than PvE hard mode?

[xxNihilanxx]

 

Ow man you should have been in my last coop match me and my division were trolling the bots so hard

 

They never said anything back though

 

Of course, after he got out of the battle he discovered all the bots had reported him and he got chat-banned for 24hrs

[T0L0S]

Just don't play Co-op. Besides Co-op being populated by the very worst of the worst who are too cowardly to join in real PvP fights, it's not intended to be played beyond your first 4 or so practise rounds.

People who still play Co-op seem to not understand this simple rule. If it were up to me I'd actually force players who insist on playing Co-op, to pay a monthly contribution to those actually wanting a real Random Battle.

That and a giant pink 'Pussy' badge for their forum avatars. Just ask yourself what seperates the boys from the men and decide accordingly.

 

 

What a crock of crap.

 

People play co op for there own reasons, not because they are cowards. I wonder how much you would whine like hungry 5 year old, if people like myself afked in your precious pvp because we have got to leave at a seconds notice.

[Vaderan]

Just don't play Co-op. Besides Co-op being populated by the very worst of the worst who are too cowardly to join in real PvP fights, it's not intended to be played beyond your first 4 or so practise rounds.

People who still play Co-op seem to not understand this simple rule. If it were up to me I'd actually force players who insist on playing Co-op, to pay a monthly contribution to those actually wanting a real Random Battle.

That and a giant pink 'Pussy' badge for their forum avatars. Just ask yourself what seperates the boys from the men and decide accordingly.

 

 

Well, the best about your narrow minded opinion is the fact, that it is more or less ignored by WG so far.

While i might still agree, that you can find some of the worst players in Coop WoWs can provide, it has also become the last sanctuary of a number of veterans, just sick with the PvP and ranked battle mechanics. These players however still keep supporting the game and stay in touch, waiting for the changes that will most likely never come, which could make the game "great again". But at least, they throw money at WG, something, most of the PvP f2p tomatoes don´t even consider.

If WG would force players into PvP mode, many, who return from time to time to this game, would just leave forever, resulting in even more decreasing numbers on the servers.

PvP has nothing to do with bravery or manlyness or anything. PvP is the pool, where the mass of the unknowing, lowskilled, f2p kiddies try to die their way through to the toptiers, accompanied by some veterans and, from time to time, trolled by sealclubbers. It´s the mode, where no matter how good you are, your skills mean nothing, due to the impact of RNG, as long as you are not playing a DD or CV, which actually are of any worth, if you have some skill AND luck.

Where PvP is something like a 1 vs 29 to 3 vs 27, PvE is something between 1 vs 15 and 3 vs 13, with the difference, that bots act more predictable, in both ways. Allied bots will always rush aggressivley, launch torpedoes, no matter if an ally is in their way or not, but they will also provide an additional target for the enemy, and be of some sort of support. Enemy bots will always attack, present more or less predictable target, and they will always automatically aim for your weakspots. In addition, they will never leave salty comments. As a result, you can expect a halfway smooth and engaging ship to ship combat, instead of 20 minute hide and seek and evade walls-of-skill game.

In PvP, you can expect 9 out of 10 players being tomatoe red lowskillers, more caring about their paintjob than team success or supporting teammembers. If they die, they will blame the team or insult the enemy, getting really salty. The same goes for the red team.

The few good players have to hope to be in a position, from which they can carry the game, and pray for RNGesus to be generous.

 

If you enjoy the "thrill" of PvP, fell free to play it. But if you don´t want all that rage and frustration, PvE at least offers an option to avoid it. Take it away from the players, and you will see the veterans leave (since they just won´t let themselves get forced into PvP) and have the very low of the lowbob tomatoes pushed in your PvP mode, making the "thrilling" experience even "better". The same guys who camp with their BBs in PvE mode and throw walls-of-skill into their teammates, will do the same in PvP aswell. Enjoy!

 

@ Ilhilh: i said hit, not penetrate! In other words: bots don´t do mistakes in terms of aiming, and they get the rng to make use of their aim efficiently. As a player, throw your BB shells on a broadsiding cruiser 5 km away, aiming for the citadell. Of 8 shells,  5 will go short or wide, 2 will overpen, one will maybe pen regularly or the citadell. Be the cruiser and engage a bot BB, the bot will penetrate your citadell anyway, most of the time even if you are angeling.

[triumphgt6]

I play a little PvE often with ships I am less happy playing in PvP as relaxation. Difficult to lose and refreshes on how a ship handles. I hate playing BBs these days so tend to play them in PvE as well just to see if they are any more fun- not really would seem be my experience - I far rather play cruisers with the associated sense of perpetual danger in PvP!

[SerPurr]

 

What a crock of crap...

 

 

Well, the best about your narrow minded opinion is the fact, that it is more or less ignored by WG so far...

 

 

O dear. I figured by now it was kinda well known I play Co-op exclusively 

Guys! My beloved brothers in Bot-battles! My significant PVE others! My fellow Tirp-Campers! I hear you. Do not worry. I'm at and on your side!