[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #1 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) as the title says, both in shop bundled and unbundled. bought the smith because the tachi is just soo much fun, will have to think about kami, as i already have the fujin... https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/main/?utm_content=cm-top&utm_source=global-nav&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=wows-forum Edited January 6, 2017 by Salentine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #2 Posted January 6, 2017 well no need to buy when some of us got these two for free 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] Runner357 Players 542 posts 18,076 battles Report post #3 Posted January 6, 2017 Picked up the Kami for the lulz. Miss my old T5 slayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #4 Posted January 6, 2017 Kami is good value, get it and feel the power. Not sure if I'd get a Smith, passed the opportunity during GNB. I've got the Banana, a German DD and a Cambeltown for my low tier thrills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zathras_Grimm Players 1,438 posts Report post #5 Posted January 6, 2017 Kami is similar to the old Minekaze. Minekaze WR was 51.65%, kills per game = 0.9. A good ship! Put a good points captain in her and you can raise that WR to 57% as indicated on WoWs Stats with Fujin and Kami premiums. Yes there are another 50 non premium ships that score the same or better than the Minekaze, but it was a good ship before the IJN line change and the kami is very close to her (just the Kami speed, rudder and AA being a little less effective). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syrchalis Players 1,401 posts 3,820 battles Report post #6 Posted January 6, 2017 I've been waiting for this for a while. I didn't want the Fujin, because I dislike the very un-ocean-ly camo (warm helloween colors) and I didn't get the Kamikaze during the event because I couldn't play at that time. Was scared that it was gone forever after the rework of the IJN line but oh wonder, WG EU gave us the same as WG NA, I'm very pleased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #7 Posted January 6, 2017 Aaahh!!! I couldn't resist. I won Kamikaze R with the Pearl event. But I just got to have the other Kamikaze as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #8 Posted January 6, 2017 Well now i have 3 of them ,-)) Still dont really find it aceptable to sell even more of her when Techtree one is nerfed to the groud They might as well allow a direct Research from T4 to T6 if they continue to sell Kamikazes. Really dont make sense to nerf a techtree ship because its op then selling same ship for Money. Sorry in this case clearly P2W 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zathras_Grimm Players 1,438 posts Report post #9 Posted January 6, 2017 Kami is similar to the old Minekaze. Minekaze WR was 51.65%, kills per game = 0.9. A good ship! Put a good points captain in her and you can raise that WR to 57% as indicated on WoWs Stats with Fujin and Kami premiums. Yes there are another 50 non premium ships that score the same or better than the Minekaze, but it was a good ship before the IJN line change and the kami is very close to her (just the Kami speed, rudder and AA being a little less effective). Well now i have 3 of them ,-)) Still dont really find it aceptable to sell even more of her when Techtree one is nerfed to the groud They might as well allow a direct Research from T4 to T6 if they continue to sell Kamikazes. Really dont make sense to nerf a techtree ship because ist op then selling same ship for Money. Sorry in this case clearly P2W As stated, the Minekaze was not OP, unless you wish to label the other 50 tech tree ships that have the same or better WR and Avg Kill Rate OP? Where it failed miserably was bringing attention to itself by being a good ship that could do well. A DD killing bigger ships, nerf it! Lol Strange that the other 49 ships aren't considered OP. Must be a DD thing. Stats available at WoWs Stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #10 Posted January 6, 2017 Woohooo, this is what i was asking for. Going to buy both for my "collection". Thank you Wargaming! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #11 Posted January 6, 2017 I have both of them in port allready, and tbh, i have "around" 0 battles in Smith Not sure if I ever took him out for a spin (Tachibana included ^^) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #12 Posted January 6, 2017 I bought both, the Smith mainly as a captain trainer. I can use the Sims for that purpose too, but I think CE makes a larger impact on tier 7, so I mainly use my 15 point captains on the Sims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted January 6, 2017 A Smith? You mean the suicide destroyer which can't torp unless it's spotted and which has guns with about the same range? No thank you. And I already have Kamikaze R from the event 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #14 Posted January 6, 2017 have the kamikaze r so wont buy another but by god that's a nice ship smith I got from a event wg did but that ship is awful only played a couple games in it but the normal tier 2 dd makes a way way way better trainer so I would advise getting the smith only if you collect ships if your going to pick a ship for fun and training take the kamikaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #15 Posted January 6, 2017 As stated, the Minekaze was not OP, unless you wish to label the other 50 tech tree ships that have the same or better WR and Avg Kill Rate OP? Where it failed miserably was bringing attention to itself by being a good ship that could do well. A DD killing bigger ships, nerf it! Lol Strange that the other 49 ships aren't considered OP. Must be a DD thing. Stats available at WoWs Stats. DD are harder to play than other classes, even the mighty Gremy doesn't have good stats. I'd imagine yolo children bring down the average WR. Good for the skillful as it's easy to pretend a ship isn't OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syrchalis Players 1,401 posts 3,820 battles Report post #16 Posted January 6, 2017 DD are harder to play than other classes, even the mighty Gremy doesn't have good stats. I'd imagine yolo children bring down the average WR. Good for the skillful as it's easy to pretend a ship isn't OP. Pretty much the same the other way around. Bismarck is easy as hell to play, so potatoes have fun in it, so more potatoes play it (which has the same effect). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #17 Posted January 6, 2017 Have both Fujin and Kamikaze R, so no Kamikaze required. Might buy Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FFP] IsamuKondera Supertest Coordinator, Modder 1,365 posts 13,372 battles Report post #18 Posted January 6, 2017 Well now i have 3 of them ,-)) Still dont really find it aceptable to sell even more of her when Techtree one is nerfed to the groud They might as well allow a direct Research from T4 to T6 if they continue to sell Kamikazes. Really dont make sense to nerf a techtree ship because its op then selling same ship for Money. Sorry in this case clearly P2W Well... they won't sell her again... at least on NA.. According to this message Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #19 Posted January 6, 2017 Smith is a beast. Dem guns are Brutal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOME] RobS80 [HOME] Weekend Tester 969 posts 10,786 battles Report post #20 Posted January 6, 2017 I have both Fujin and Kamikaze R so see no reason to buy the Kamikaze. Already have 15 point captains on both Shima and Akizuki. Had the Smith sinch GNB too lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #21 Posted January 6, 2017 Smith is meh, kamikaze probably as good as my Kamikaze R, but since I have the R I don't need the green, My next mission is to get the Missouri in port, still 270k'ish off but creeping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #22 Posted January 6, 2017 Well... they won't sell her again... at least on NA.. According to this message Make an item rare, increase the sales. Fell for it once, not again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FFP] IsamuKondera Supertest Coordinator, Modder 1,365 posts 13,372 battles Report post #23 Posted January 6, 2017 Make an item rare, increase the sales. Fell for it once, not again. Well... I own Kamikaze R (and i think the blue camo is the best one already)... i never bought the fujin when she came up the first time and i got Kami R from project R and I'm quite happy with it. I will at least not invest into a copy from her. But anyone that wanna know something about this ship: For the price it is totally worth it. If you don't own it yet i would recommend buying it. It's not a high price either... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #24 Posted January 6, 2017 Well... I own Kamikaze R (and i think the blue camo is the best one already)... i never bought the fujin when she came up the first time and i got Kami R from project R and I'm quite happy with it. I will at least not invest into a copy from her. But anyone that wanna know something about this ship: For the price it is totally worth it. If you don't own it yet i would recommend buying it. It's not a high price either... I agree with you there, if you don;t have one of the variations of this little beauty you should get her, it's a really fun dd to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #25 Posted January 6, 2017 I have both of them in port allready, and tbh, i have "around" 0 battles in Smith Not sure if I ever took him out for a spin (Tachibana included ^^) i havt playeed it much either but you should play it atleast couple of times its "torp guns" are fun;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites