Skipping New Orleans?

[Dayaveer]

Hey

 

Pensacola was ok after playing a lot with it, but this New Orleans is just the same yet so much worse because of tiers. I was planning on skipping it as soon as possible with my 80k free xp. 

What you guys think about skipping it?

 

Dayaveer

[loppantorkel]

And end up with Baltimore?

 

[MercFHire]

If you managed to get past the Pensa the worst is over, The NO is a decent ship although she does have a tough time but the experience is neccesary for the Baltimore.  Your guns are good, you just have to make sure that you don't leave yourself exposed.

 

I had a tough time with the Baltimore but she was my first tier 9 CA.  I'm quite successful with the Des Moines but I believe that Concealment Expert plays a large part in that and I wonder if I had had CE back when I played the Baltimore if it would have made things easier on me.

[Ghostychan]

80k free XP is >10% for Missouri.

(I may have the Missouri in port, but since then I've decided to not use free XP anymore for anything. Especially since I believe that Kitakami is likely to return as a free XP premium ship - and maybe we get a Musashi (MusashI!(MUSASHI!(むさし！(武蔵！)))))

Well, it's up to you, but from what I've heard (don't have any non-premium USN CA), the New Orleans is better that the Pensacola and should be more pleasant to play. 

[txtspeak]

And end up with Baltimore?

 

yes, it's an OK ship

way better for its tier than the new orleans

it's hardly perfect, but you can make it work WAAAAY easier

[Dayaveer]

80k free XP is >10% for Missouri.

(I may have the Missouri in port, but since then I've decided to not use free XP anymore for anything. Especially since I believe that Kitakami is likely to return as a free XP premium ship - and maybe we get a Musashi (MusashI!(MUSASHI!(むさし！(武蔵！)))))

Well, it's up to you, but from what I've heard (don't have any non-premium USN CA), the New Orleans is better that the Pensacola and should be more pleasant to play. 

 

I see i see.

 

I dont want Missouri, all i want is Bismarck, Montana/Iowa, Des Molnes, Fletcher and maybe Yamato... but i guess its better to use free xp to skip stock items then. I will continue playing with NO for some time and upgrade it first and then see.

 

Thanks

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

not worth  u can grind it easy

 

[lup3s]

What you guys think about skipping it?

 

Don't.

 

The New Orleans is a decent ship (in my opinion), and I actually like playing it.

9.5 km concealment, 9 km radar, decent AA and American Piercing shells that wreck enemy cruisers.

 

Yes it's fragile and prone to citadel hits, but so is any Cruiser.

 

If you did well with the Pensacola, you should do well with the New Orleans (as it has a LOT better concealment and it can equip radar).

 

 

Radar is handy against DDs hiding in their smoke, but also against Kutuzovs or RN CLs hiding in their smoke.

Pop radar, and if they're broadside on, you'll wreck them in no time.

[txtspeak]

 

Don't.

 

The New Orleans is a decent ship (in my opinion), and I actually like playing it.

9.5 km concealment, 9 km radar, decent AA and (perhaps its biggest advantage) American Piercing shells that wreck enemy cruisers.

 

Yes it's fragile and prone to citadel hits, but so is any Cruiser.

 

If you did well with the Pensacola, you should do well with the New Orleans (as it has a LOT better concealment and it can equip radar).

 

 

Radar is especially handy against Kutuzovs or RN CLs hiding in their smoke.. Pop radar, and if they're broadside on, you'll wreck them in no time.

 

you heav a wrong opinion

[RobS80]

I quite liked the New Orleans. And I didn't hate the Pensacola (despite its effect on my stats at the time!)

 

The Balti is really where the line starts to come good though, and you wont appreciate that if you dont gain experience in the New Orleans.

 

I would reccomend though free XP'ing the modules for the N.O.

[Dayaveer]

So what should i do with free xp? Skip stock baltimore or north carolina? or something?

 

[lup3s]

 

you heav a wrong opinion

 

Thank you for your constructive answer!

 

Any particular reason why my opinion is wrong? Or is it just because you hate that ship?

 

It's not because you hate a ship that everyone should hate it and no one can like it.

 

 

So what should i do with free xp? Skip stock baltimore or north carolina? or something?

 

 

I use my free XP to skip stock ships (mainly CA/CLs and BBs). But atm I'm saving up for the Missouri

[MercFHire]

Skipping stock equipment is always a good idea, just pick which ever one you think you will play more.  Athough a CA skipping stock will benefit more than a BB skipping stock.  BB's can still be a threat and soak up damage where as a CA needs all the health and AA rating it gets.

[RobS80]

So what should i do with free xp? Skip stock baltimore or north carolina? or something?

 

 

Like I said, unlock the hull and fire control. The stock grind may be a little bit much, but upgraded its quite good. Take a look at some Youtube commentaries.

[txtspeak]

 

Thank you for your constructive answer!

 

Any particular reason why my opinion is wrong? Or is it just because you hate that ship?

 

It's not because you hate a ship that everyone should hate it and no one can like it.

It was meant to be a sarcastic hyperbole joke answer.

and yes, I just hate that ship

[lup3s]

It was meant to be a sarcastic hyperbole joke answer.

and yes, I just hate that ship

 

Ok, sorry then; seems like my sarcasm detector needs some fine-tuning.

 

I can understand why people don't like the New Orleans but I just do.

and I think that if you somewhat liked playing the Pensacola, you might also somewhat like playing the New Orleans

 

Btw, I didn't say the New Orleans is the best T8 cruiser (because it surely ain't), but that it's a decent cruiser in my opinion.

But my opinion might be biased as I seem to perform decent with the New Orleans.

[loppantorkel]

 

yes, it's an OK ship

way better for its tier than the new orleans

it's hardly perfect, but you can make it work WAAAAY easier

I think they're about the same. Both worst performers of their kind in their respective tier. So.. I wouldn't expect a huge upgrade performance wise from NO to Baltimore. I think the Pensacola is better than both though, so maybe different ships for different tastes.

[Hedgehog1963]

People still play cruisers with no smoke at high tiers...

[Donar79]

I first struggled with this ship but i really learnt to love the NO, was a similar experience with the Pensa. U can get her to 10,8km concealment without CE and this is really nice playin. With radar and T-Virus u are really strong. And she is tanky from the front. U have to fear BB but which CA/CL doesnt?

 

I wouldnt skip it.

[Slauter]

Before the buff it was a disaster, you'd get citadeled/deleted from every possible angle, so i would say yes. Now it looks much better, so i'm thinking of rebuying it for fun.

I guess it still lacks DPM/quicker reload/range/ability to actually kill DD's. But atm there's also more cruisers in the game, so you should have more fun.

[txtspeak]

 So.. I wouldn't expect a huge upgrade performance wise from NO to Baltimore.

if you got survivability expert at the end of the NO grind like I did (Needs more bloody survivability, dont judge) the baltimore has 10,000 more health, it has a damage repair party consumable, it has VASTLY superior AA (About equal to the clevelands) VASTLY superior armour (127mm vs 152mm) so much so that you can bounce battleship shells pretty regularly at close range. it has a spotter plane (if you really really want to, although I'd stick with the radar) and it's guns can fire 2km further thanks to the upgrade and-

sorry did I start rambling? oh wait, that's just the huge list of better things about the baltimore that makes is vastly better tier-for-tier than the NO

[Dayaveer]

I bought the torpedo and spotting range item instead of concealement item, should i switch to it?

[VC381]

I bought the torpedo and spotting range item instead of concealement item, should i switch to it?

 

Absolutely. NO is one of the most agile ships in the game, if you can't dodge torps without that module I'm sorry to say you're doing something quite wrong.

 

If, and only if, you have a 15 point captain with Concealment Expert, take the new -40% rudder shift module in that slot instead. With that setup you can play "can't touch this" as your game sound track as you troll BBs by baiting their shots with a bit of broadside and turning completely clear before the shots land.

 

OK sorry, I'm a huge US cruiser fanboy and I absolutely loved the Pensacola, NO and now Baltimore. You aren't going to get an unbiased opinion from me on this. So I say use the free XP to skip the stock grind but don't skip the whole ship. Yes Baltimore is "better" in a way but it's also worse (always in T10 matches, bigger and more sluggish). The whole line plays the same from here up so you're better off (in my opinion) learning the tricks in NO. If you really don't like it or can't get the hang of it, better drop the line than waste the free XP because Baltimore will not be kind to you if you go to it unprepared.

[Dayaveer]

Ty

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