[TACHA] VedranSeaWolf359 Players 714 posts 11,288 battles Report post #1 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Hello Mates, I think that would be nice if WoW devs made Premium version of Cleveland cruiser, it not need to get big buff over basic version only maybe better shell hang time or access to repair consumable. Ship looks as mini Iowa/Missouri so she would be great as premium CL Edited January 4, 2017 by VedranSeaWolf359 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #2 Posted January 4, 2017 There is already Atlanta. Basically the same ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #3 Posted January 4, 2017 There is already Atlanta. Basically the same ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #4 Posted January 4, 2017 Nah, not every premium cruiser needs heal. Something about the shell flight time would be really nice though. I bought Cleveland again yesterday, I was bored and I remembered that months ago I had quite some fun with the Cleveland so I bought it again to play a few games... and oh boy... I don't know if they changed the shell flight time in some patch or it's just that it has been so much time without playing it that I completely forgot about how to aim with that thing. It's like shooting with a USN DD, but with 10 seconds reload it's quite painful. It's a very good reload for a cruiser, but when you are trying to shoot something smaller than a BB that changes course when you shoot at it readjusting the aim with 10 seconds between shots it's not that fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #5 Posted January 4, 2017 Cleveland is fine the way she is. Hell all she needs is some minor tweaks and it could just as easily be a tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] BadGene616 Beta Tester 773 posts 8,197 battles Report post #6 Posted January 4, 2017 It's a shadow of its former self after the range nerf and the removal of the split citadel. Used to be a tough little beast. Playing it recently it felt like the turret traverse had been reduced as well but might just be poor memory. The ap can be savage at close range though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #7 Posted January 4, 2017 We don't need even more p2w ships. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #8 Posted January 4, 2017 Cleveland will most likely be moved to tier 8 when a USN CL line arrives. This would means buffs to her historical AA outfit, 10RPM (6 sec reload), possibly HP, and other small stats. The tier 6 spot in said CL line would be taken by a weaker 1930s Brooklyn preliminary: As for a premium Cleveland, if not a clone of her sister ships, Little Rock being a decent candidate due to being a museum ship, the Fargo class would essentially be a Cleveland with slightly more HP and different AA, unless WG add in extra consumables. Helena could also manage being a tier 8 premium, and her playstyle would be very similar to Clevelands. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,792 battles Report post #9 Posted January 4, 2017 My guess is we'll see the Fargo-class pop up as a Premium someday. Or a Premium Brooklyn. Or a Premium St. Louis-class but that's unlikely cause it would be a really great ship and WG doesn't do that where it concerns USN cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #10 Posted January 4, 2017 There is already Atlanta. Basically the same ship. LOL wut? Care to explain this one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParEx Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,449 posts 7,711 battles Report post #11 Posted January 4, 2017 There is already Atlanta. Basically the same ship. Cleveland is a different ship in almost every way I can imagine. The only things Cleve and Lollanta have in common are the US-Flag, the outstanding AA capability on their Tier and the fact they are both cruisers. Thats it. Atlanta is a tincan with blowguns, shells that travel around the moon and short range. I love it. Hello Mates, I think that would be nice if WoW devs made Premium version of Cleveland cruiser, it not need to get big buff over basic version only maybe better shell hang time or access to repair consumable. Ship looks as mini Iowa/Missouri so she would be great as premium CL Cleveland doesnt need a buff at all, it has a nice hard to hit citadel (compared to the other CAs on its tier) with good guns and awesome AA. The shelltime was nerfed ages ago because of OPnes and for gods sake this ship does not need repair consumeable. In Closed Beta it was THE ship of tier6. Flatter shell path, benefits fom AFT, and the HE mechanics back then. It burned everything to death. *sigh* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lin3 Players 746 posts Report post #12 Posted January 4, 2017 We don't need even more p2w ships. I agree. Pay to win has gotten so embedded in this game that the OP assumes that the Premium version would be better than the Freemium version. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,792 battles Report post #13 Posted January 4, 2017 I agree. Pay to win has gotten so embedded in this game that the OP assumes that the Premium version would be better than the Freemium version. Oh cum cum, it's not that bad is it. Just admit you'd secretly enjoy a Preium PlewianPla..(pff!!!) P2Wian USN Tier VIII CA that would club Atago's and Kuto's for breakfast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #14 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) My guess is we'll see the Fargo-class pop up as a Premium someday. Or a Premium Brooklyn. Or a Premium St. Louis-class but that's unlikely cause it would be a really great ship and WG doesn't do that where it concerns USN cruisers. You mean, after having launched the St Louis and it became a big success story, they then launched the Bogatyr which is basically a tsarevist St Louis only slightly better in all but armour and better looking to boot? And now they are planning to launch the Oleg, which is basically a premium Bogatyr? No, no, I really can't say that I see a pattern here... Edited: It should be noted that I love the Bogatyr. The Oleg would end up in my port five minutes after I got hold of my virtual wallet. Edited January 4, 2017 by Procrastes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #15 Posted January 4, 2017 Cleveland and Atlanta is like Chalk and Cheese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #16 Posted January 4, 2017 LOL wut? Care to explain this one? Whats there to explain ? The Atalanta is a Cleveland with 5" instead of 6" guns. They basically play the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-CHL-] Fizzy_Odin Beta Tester 545 posts 4,334 battles Report post #17 Posted January 4, 2017 WG could make premium version of Celeveland like the one it was in Beta ( the beast with normal shell arc ) i would buy it in sec ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #18 Posted January 4, 2017 1945 USS Little Rock. Tier 8. 27mm bow. 25mm hull/stern. 10rpm guns. Historical AA. 7km secondary range. Consumables: Defensive fire, Radar, Plane. The rest can be identical the T6 Cleveland. Selling feature: Bismarck/Tirpitz troll CL. Auto bouce 15" AP off the bow and match them with HE secondary spam at 10km. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] VedranSeaWolf359 Players 714 posts 11,288 battles Report post #19 Posted January 4, 2017 Cleveland will most likely be moved to tier 8 when a USN CL line arrives. This would means buffs to her historical AA outfit, 10RPM (6 sec reload), possibly HP, and other small stats. The tier 6 spot in said CL line would be taken by a weaker 1930s Brooklyn preliminary: As for a premium Cleveland, if not a clone of her sister ships, Little Rock being a decent candidate due to being a museum ship, the Fargo class would essentially be a Cleveland with slightly more HP and different AA, unless WG add in extra consumables. Helena could also manage being a tier 8 premium, and her playstyle would be very similar to Clevelands. Thx for information I always think that shy missed its level she look like Level 7-9 with armament, but due strange shell fire arc devs put into Lvl VI and lower her HP, I didn't know that in beta she have better shell firing arc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red_eye1980 Players 387 posts 3,102 battles Report post #20 Posted January 4, 2017 So when they split the US CA line, do you think they might also release the San Diego as the alternative to premium Atlanta? I had that ship as a matchbox model when I was a kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AWG] blademansw Beta Tester 279 posts 7,500 battles Report post #21 Posted January 4, 2017 Oh cum cum, it's not that bad is it. Just admit you'd secretly enjoy a Preium PlewianPla..(pff!!!) P2Wian USN Tier VIII CA that would club Atago's and Kuto's for breakfast You leave my firestarter alone.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLDG] Verence196 Players 313 posts 7,457 battles Report post #22 Posted January 4, 2017 So when they split the US CA line, do you think they might also release the San Diego as the alternative to premium Atlanta? I had that ship as a matchbox model when I was a kid. At a rough guesstimate, the rumored upcoming cruiser line split would look something like this if split after tier V: I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X Erie Chester St. Louis Phoenix Omaha Pensacola Northampton or Portland New Orleans Baltimore Des Moines Brooklyn St. Louis (1938/Helena) Cleveland Fargo Worcester Or something like this if split after tier VI: I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X Erie Chester St. Louis Phoenix Omaha Brooklyn Pensacola New Orleans Baltimore Des Moines St. Louis (1938/Helena) Cleveland Fargo Worcester It is difficult to see how Wargaming can avoid putting the 1938 St. Louis-class into the tree at tier VII. There's not much else that could bridge the gap between the Brooklyn at tier VI and the Cleveland at tier VIII (which is where most people seem to think she fits best). That still leaves a number of interwar/wartime US cruiser designs as possible premiums. The Northampton (personally I'd love to see a USS Augusta team up with an HMS Prince of Wales =p), Juneau, Wichita and Oregon City classes. Whether any of those could be made unique enough to warrant their own premium versions is another matter entirely. In any scenario I struggle to see how the San Diego would fit in. She's an Atlanta, and it probably isn't attractive to Wargaming to put in the time and effort to produce yet another premium version of the same ship (although the Omaha-Marblehead-Murmansk and Gnevny-Gremy-Anshan are examples of how it could be done). Nor is she likely to go into the tree at tier VII. Wargaming looks like they are reserving the 5-inch spamboat concept for premiums, and in any case it would be a significant departure from splitting the US cruisers into pure 8-inch CA and 6-inch CL branches. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #23 Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) it not need to get big buff over basic version only maybe better shell hang time or access to repair consumable Nice bait Edited January 4, 2017 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superdeluxe Alpha Tester 1,200 posts 2,787 battles Report post #24 Posted January 4, 2017 Cleveland will most likely be moved to tier 8 when a USN CL line arrives. First time I read that was in 2014 during alpha test. 2 full years later, Cleveland has been heavily nerfed, but still no US CL tree in the horizon. I wouldn't count on the Cleveland being moved soon. World of Helicopters or World of Submarines might be released before it happens :p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red_eye1980 Players 387 posts 3,102 battles Report post #25 Posted January 4, 2017 Thank you verence196. Makes sense that way. Just thought it would come out maybe same tier as Atlanta since it was a highly decorated ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
