Current state of T10

[P2Win]

In a game where the whole point of progression is to get to the top (t10) why is it so difficult to find games where almost everyone is t10? I know some people will argue that t10 is no fun, bla bla bl. But you see when I click "Play now" and there are t8 ships that I have to shoot, it doesn't end well for them. They need a higher incentive for those of us who primarily stick to max tier. Perhaps double credits/free exp or something that will FORCE people to play those tier.

[KaraMon]

Buy camo -50% repair and you are close to double credits :p

[P2Win]

Yea but there should be some other incentive without the need to spend 5k doubloons. I have those camo but it doesn't seem like it's enough for other people lol..

[159Hunter]

Some people don't want to spend that kind of money ( 5 k doubloons per ship is a lot ) moreover the gameplay can be very boring as well ( sniper battles ). So unless the gameplay itself changes you won't attract more people to play tier X.

[Panocek]

Yea but there should be some other incentive without the need to spend 5k doubloons. I have those camo but it doesn't seem like it's enough for other people lol..

 

There is none in Tanks, why there should be one in Ships? Already you can turn T10 boat into quasi premium. Economy changes favouring high tiers appeared some time ago too.

[Shagulon]

the incentive to be tier 10 is to always be top tier in the best ship, the tier is fine now and needs no more changes

[Celandri]

why bothering with tier 10? the game is based on play whatever tier you want and what you wana play. It is not rush to the highest tier as there is any endgame. so there isnt any spesial insentives to actualy play 10 unless you wana play tier 10.

 

if i wana play tier 8 and meet tier 10 its my own choice, same if i meet the tier 6 in the 8, and so on. 

[Bismarck_chan]

In a game where the whole point of progression is to get to the top (t10) ...

 

This isn't necessarily the point for everyone. Usually WG games work in a way where you have to play lower tiers to pay for playing the higher ones. Or buy premium time/premium camoes/premium ships. They need to make money after all.

[Lin3]

In WoT, Tier 10 for me was all about Clan Wars, which provided a lot of close, intense, enjoyable battles.

 

Warships currently lacks Clan Wars.

 

Also Warships should have an additional Random matchmaking level, where only tier 10 ships are included. The success of this would be dependent on having enough tier 10 ships in the queue to avoid the same 24 players facing each other battle after battle.

[ColonelPete]

Since when it is the whole point of WoWs to get to Tier X? I thought it was to have fun.

[P2Win]

Since when it is the whole point of WoWs to get to Tier X? I thought it was to have fun.

 

You make a good point. Personally for me I don't enjoy anything lower than 9. It just punish those tier 8 guys who I feel sorry for.

[CaptainNorse]

I currently have the Zao and the Montana at tier X. Still, I find myself playing various other lines that I'm leveling (IJS DD, US DD, German CA, German BB, Russian DD, British CA) just as often or even more often than the tier Xs. The tier 10 battles are for racking up the big numbers, and are the easy route to such missions as the current "do 140.000 damage, sink three ships etc). 

 

But I find the progression bit and the testing of new vessels very enjoyable. 

[P2Win]

I currently have the Zao and the Montana at tier X. Still, I find myself playing various other lines that I'm leveling (IJS DD, US DD, German CA, German BB, Russian DD, British CA) just as often or even more often than the tier Xs. The tier 10 battles are for racking up the big numbers, and are the easy route to such missions as the current "do 140.000 damage, sink three ships etc). 

 

But I find the progression bit and the testing of new vessels very enjoyable. 

 

Yea but then they introduce those event where you earn pins and the easiest way to get those pins are restricted to t10. I am surprise nobody complain about this yet. The damage isn't why some of us play t10, everything hits harder and a lot more HP so it balance out.

[Azalgor]

There no difference in gameplay of tier 1 or tier 10, besides credit/exp income, otherwise its same potatoe players that ruin the fun aspect of the game, so why must i pay more for repairs and get into negative income when i can play mid tiers and always gain some?

[ParEx]

In a game where the whole point of progression is to get to the top (t10) why is it so difficult to find games where almost everyone is t10? I know some people will argue that t10 is no fun, bla bla bl. But you see when I click "Play now" and there are t8 ships that I have to shoot, it doesn't end well for them. They need a higher incentive for those of us who primarily stick to max tier. Perhaps double credits/free exp or something that will FORCE people to play those tier.

You miss something: the game is NOT about getting to the top. WG makes lots of players believe this, but it is not true (at least not at the moment).

For me there are several reasons that opt against Tier10:

- small playerbase = not enough populated high tiers (opposite of WoT)

- even worse economics up there (again, opposite of WoT where you can earn money in tier10 by playing smart)

- most missions can be done by tier8

- no reason to stockpile tier10s except for you want it. No Clanwars, Tournaments atm.

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So, for a large number of players there is just no reason to force the way up to tier10. Including me, and I rate myself not an occasional player. I have several trees where I stopped grinding at tier8.

[mtm78]

- no reason to stockpile tier10s except for you want it. No Clanwars, Tournaments atm.

 

I think you might been living under a roch, there are monthly tournaments. But they are not tier X

[creamgravy]

T10 random battle gameplay is always a big disappointment.

[albinbino]

Tier 10 ships have one main problem, which occurred after economy was changed in recent patch.

With the new economy you are forced to race against time and your teammates to do enough damage to cover your repair costs, at least little bit, if you don't have premium camo or premium status like myself.

WG decided to introduce illogical idea that you pay full repair costs even if your ship is not much damaged.

Well some battles are short, some battles simply dont go way you want, so in tier 10 ship you sometimes will not have much chance to do that huge damage number. This forces tier 10 ship captains to do illogical moves and make intentional mistakes just to get that damage. Like BBs charging straight into cap or cruisers making risky turns and plans. I am also gulty of this, but i must play like this when i am in tier 10 ship.

Overall quality of battles dropped a lot, i try not to play tier 10 ships often, but sometimes i do, mostly for mission reasons.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

Tier 10 ships have one main problem, which occurred after economy was changed in recent patch.

With the new economy you are forced to race against time and your teammates to do enough damage to cover your repair costs, at least little bit, if you don't have premium camo or premium status like myself.

WG decided to introduce illogical idea that you pay full repair costs even if your ship is not much damaged.

Well some battles are short, some battles simply dont go way you want, so in tier 10 ship you sometimes will not have much chance to do that huge damage number. This forces tier 10 ship captains to do illogical moves and make intentional mistakes just to get that damage. Like BBs charging straight into cap or cruisers making risky turns and plans. I am also gulty of this, but i must play like this when i am in tier 10 ship.

Overall quality of battles dropped a lot, i try not to play tier 10 ships often, but sometimes i do, mostly for mission reasons.

Full pay cost and not per dmg taken is best decision ever. Before that it was all about sniping. Dont dmg my ship shitplay because it cost money. So everybody sniped from max range. Sometimes games was ovet with 5-6 dead ships in 20 minites. 

[Gnirf]

In a game where the whole point of progression is to get to the top (t10) why is it so difficult to find games where almost everyone is t10? I know some people will argue that t10 is no fun, bla bla bl. But you see when I click "Play now" and there are t8 ships that I have to shoot, it doesn't end well for them. They need a higher incentive for those of us who primarily stick to max tier. Perhaps double credits/free exp or something that will FORCE people to play those tier.

 

For you as a gamer it might be. I have a friend who buys and plays through many games so I can accept that. But WOWS appeals also for other players.

 

For me as a warship enthusiast and interested in history I play all the tiers from 2-10 as I like the looks of the ships and have interest in them in general. So thats why I have 100+ ships in harbour and have spend lots of cash on premiums. Besides is tier 10 infested with paperships which may not bother you or the gamer but it bothers me a lot, so those Tech trees are far less interesting. Besides are the gameplay at lower tiers often more fun.

 

 

Sure I grind also but I return to lower/midtiers to enjoy ships that I like.

[cro_pwr]

Full pay cost and not per dmg taken is best decision ever. Before that it was all about sniping. Dont dmg my ship shitplay because it cost money. So everybody sniped from max range. Sometimes games was ovet with 5-6 dead ships in 20 minites. 

 

But now, sometimes you pray that few of your teammates will die, because otherwise game will end in 5 mins and you will loose 100k creds because you steamrolled your opponents

[albinbino]

Full pay cost and not per dmg taken is best decision ever. Before that it was all about sniping. Dont dmg my ship shitplay because it cost money. So everybody sniped from max range. Sometimes games was ovet with 5-6 dead ships in 20 minites. 

 

No, those complains about sniping from max range were never grounded. Maybe few players snipped only, and guess what those who snipped before they are also snipping now.  Does not matter what changes made, those players who are scared will always be scared. Now situation is worse, those who snipped, snipe again and those who did not snipe, now are charging ahead and making bad moves due to economy on full repair costs.

 

So now very often you will have tier 10 battle end up like tier 3 battle where ships die massively in opening minutes.

[red_eye1980]

Because it takes ages to get to tier 10. With a standard account like I have is it even possible? And if people play multiple lines/nations like I do it takes even longer. I think it will take me years to reach tier 10. Also people like playing their premiums. And there are none at tier 10. Also if there is a ship along the grind that people don't like some stop grinding that line. I have almost given up at Nagato, Pensacola, and although I enjoyed the Nurnberg, I didnt want to continue with the Yorck.

[ColonelPete]

If you play one line, you get to Tier X in 800 to 1000 games.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Bastion has made it worse with the op super HE forts, even DD and cruisers are forced to camp if they can't get an early cap.

 

Still, T10 gameplay is boring and long ranged most of the time. It'll often go to 20 mins with less action.

 

I was in my Yam probably about half an hour ago on Epicentre on Tears of the Desert. Folk on my team were crying as I was sat at medium range all game, couldn't have pushed sooner due to the DDs and HE spammers massed up. Two enemy Yams who pushed at the start got blown away in the first engagement. Lots of kids got salty at me, if I yoloed and rushed I'd be dead. We won on points with myself as the last ship, the two enemy HE cruisers couldn't eat through 50k hp of Imperial Armour before the time ran out.