bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #1 Posted December 28, 2016 Just got myself a shima, great hopefully it will cost less to play at tier 10 than the yamato which I love to play but is not worth the cost without premium you can have a good battle, get kills, survive and still take a loss in credits unless you are a premium player Some of us can not afford to throw money at this game all of the time, it is just to damn expensive, if your none premium players have no chance at tier ten what is the point it feels like a trap, play premium or go home scenario I enjoy the game, I play it to relax, but I can not justify the real money investment, with this type of pay to play model it is far more expensive then playing any other game model In short you still need to do more to balance the cost at tier ten, give the none premium guys a chance 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom_Too ∞ Players 5,189 posts 7,044 battles Report post #2 Posted December 28, 2016 Mhmm The only things which comes into my mind after reading your post: Get Better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #3 Posted December 28, 2016 Mhmm The only things which comes into my mind after reading your post: Get Better! Better than surviving and killing three ships in the battle? I expected this type of comment, not as bad as chat ingame, but still the same mentality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ESN] Damanta [ESN] Beta Tester 311 posts 8,960 battles Report post #4 Posted December 28, 2016 So the economy mechanics are doing their job. Tiers 9-10 aren't supposed to be profitable, to keep the lower tiers populated to earn credits. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #5 Posted December 28, 2016 In short you still need to do more to balance the cost at tier ten, give the none premium guys a chance I know this game is F2P. But in my opinion you should give money for something you are using. And what bonus would be for paying guys? Well, how about the ability to play on X tier, while "I won't pay for playing this game" guys cannot afford to. Sry for some salt in my post. I'm just angry about WG EU. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #6 Posted December 28, 2016 As it should be? Really amazed that after 4k games you find this out now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #7 Posted December 28, 2016 So the economy mechanics are doing their job. Tiers 9-10 aren't supposed to be profitable, to keep the lower tiers populated to earn credits. they are profitable as long as you are premium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom_Too ∞ Players 5,189 posts 7,044 battles Report post #8 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Better than surviving and killing three ships in the battle? I expected this type of comment, not as bad as chat ingame, but still the same mentality This was no special game at all.. and for none of your kills you needed more than 40k damage... You're reward is based on % damage to a Target. Not on Kills. I expect this answer on my comment from an inexperienced player. Edit: You have the same rep cost for surviving as for dying.. so... survive won't help your bill. Additonaly for a game were all ships got excuted by your team, only 1 cap is also not much. Except the game was in 5 minutes over. Edited December 28, 2016 by Venom_Too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #9 Posted December 28, 2016 You can still play tier 10 as long as you don't exclusively play tier 10. Easy life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #10 Posted December 28, 2016 As it should be? Really amazed that after 4k games you find this out now... not finding it out now, just having another moan about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #11 Posted December 28, 2016 You can still play tier 10 as long as you don't exclusively play tier 10. Easy life. true could stick with tier 8, but the point of the game is to grind to the top is it not? I enjoy the yamato and now the shima so want to be able to play it more. It seems without premium it is not allowed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #12 Posted December 28, 2016 This was no special game at all.. and for none of your kills you needed more than 40k damage... You're reward is based on % damage to a Target. Not on Kills. I expect this answer on my comment from an inexperienced player. You must be fun at parties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #13 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) my point is (which some of you are missing) you can profit with tier ten, even as an average player, you just need a premium account to do it. How is that fair for the non premium users? Edited December 28, 2016 by bignewy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom_Too ∞ Players 5,189 posts 7,044 battles Report post #14 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) my point is (which some of you are missing) you can profit with tier ten, even as an average player, you just need a premium account to do it. How is that fair for the non premium users? You can do this without premium also ---> Just get better And great Shocker it worked also before the eco rework. Edit: But if you mean that the players which finance the game, which you also play for free, have a little advantage for investing money. Than yes its clearly unfair. Edited December 28, 2016 by Venom_Too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #15 Posted December 28, 2016 You can do this without premium also ---> Just get better And great Shocker it worked also before the eco rework. Edit: But if you mean that the players which finance the game, which you also play for free, have a little advantage for investing money. Than yes its clearly unfair. I don't mind spending money on the game, but at the moment it is priced outside my budget, it is a very expensive experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PGTIP] Naatibus Players 129 posts 1,678 battles Report post #16 Posted December 28, 2016 I don't mind spending money on the game, but at the moment it is priced outside my budget, it is a very expensive experience Basic need bundle is like what 13 euro and you get 30 day premium and some dobloons, i am betting your internet bills is way higher then that and i doubt you have the slowest speed which would still allow you to play wows... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #17 Posted December 28, 2016 Basic need bundle is like what 13 euro and you get 30 day premium and some dobloons, i am betting your internet bills is way higher then that and i doubt you have the slowest speed which would still allow you to play wows... Yes that is the best option, I just can not justify it every month 12 x 13 156 Euro a year is expensive to play a game in my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PGTIP] Naatibus Players 129 posts 1,678 battles Report post #18 Posted December 28, 2016 Yes that is the best option, I just can not justify it every month 12 x 13 156 Euro a year is expensive to play a game in my opinion I agree with that maybe go every other month so in essence the premium month will allow you to stockpile some cash for the Hungry month. Just do not go overboard with ship purchases ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom_Too ∞ Players 5,189 posts 7,044 battles Report post #19 Posted December 28, 2016 I don't mind spending money on the game, but at the moment it is priced outside my budget, it is a very expensive experience You can't expect from an Domination mode Map in a Shima: With 1 captured cap, and 3 Kills , which is one with 9k damage, one with 17k damage and one with 38k... to make profit. You have only on the Tirpitz a good hit with over 50% of total HP damage. Which survived. At this point in your "career" with 4k games, you should know better that this won't get much money for you. And all this in 15 Minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #20 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Nvm, the edit function decided to eat my post. Edited December 28, 2016 by Nechrom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JG4] JG4_sKylon Players 1,133 posts 20,992 battles Report post #21 Posted December 28, 2016 Besides all anger towards WG EU for the recent "events", i don´t really see a problem with the economy at high tiers. Even if you play only for free, you can finance your T10 matches with a few games in T6 or 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bignewy Players 43 posts 8,302 battles Report post #22 Posted December 28, 2016 ok I am done for now, I have had my say the wall of fanboi is over whelming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #23 Posted December 28, 2016 they are profitable as long as you are premium Not necessary. Had a good game with my Yama yesterday. We won, my ship survived, sank two enemies, had premium, still made a loss in credits. In a good game where the enemy team gets wiped out, you have to do really, really well to make a profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PGTIP] Naatibus Players 129 posts 1,678 battles Report post #24 Posted December 28, 2016 If you do a search for posts of the people that replied here i would imagine the "fanboy" title is the last thing you could call them.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom_Too ∞ Players 5,189 posts 7,044 battles Report post #25 Posted December 28, 2016 If you do a search for posts of the people that replied here i would imagine the "fanboy" title is the last thing you could call them.. But it can't be my fault in this posted game. It clearly is the broken Economy in high tier. You know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
