Prinz Eugen - Good ship in war - Bad ship in game - Don't Buy

[vecasa]

Prinz Eugen is a premium ship but  there's not the key (as atago, graf spee and other premium ship) to recover point when the ship is hit. And every hit from a battleship take from 10% to 40% of the points of the ship. I played many times with this ship but everytime is the same. Now is always in port. Don't but. The ship need a U key to recover points. It's too weak.

[Slezman]

U key would be perfect, but this ship of funny for me, as Hipper is. My key vehicle, 280 battles so far, best rating among my ships .

You are doing good dmg as I look on your stats, but have bad luck on teams, so your WR is lower. It will grow, since you are good player.

[vecasa]

No the ship need the U key to recover. Without this key it's really a bad ship. But I already buyed.... bad idea. It's not a problem ol luck. Every battle you fight with at least 4 o 5 battleship and the ship is easy to detect so every time you take 3 o 4 hits before you begin to open fire and the ship go to 50% of his points.

[Slezman]

I have 5pts perk on camouflage, of course, wrong turn in front of BBs means usually half HP away, you are getting citadelled to the butt and face but such kind of adrenaline still  forces me to have most of the battles in this german crusier class. There are two basic modes for me how to play this ship, and I decide according to my mood atm

• one is aggresive - going with DD to cap area, do the cap or do some dmg there and then to fall back, or
• wait until situation in cap is clear and then to get closer with team mates, set BBs on fire and spray DDs with HE, or choose AP when enemy cruiser is closer than 15, best below 13 kms

If they add heal, I would play this ship even more intense, but this cannot be expected.

[vecasa]

I can't write in english very well anyway I tried at least 40 ships and I play in many different way but I never enjoyed to play with this ship, sometimes I try again but no way, without a key to recover this is a unuseful ship. Atago VIII premuim can recover, Graf Spee Vi can recover, Why not this ship. No way i think I'll sell it.

[Gabzool]

I use the 2M rudder shift module on this ship. With a litle over 5s rudder shift time the ship plays like a dream with super fast turret travers. it has 6 torps on each side with superior lunching angles if u get into heat.If the BB shells come from one side u can react and avoid them with 5s ruder shift or at least minimize dmg. Prinz has 45000 HP and very tanky armor. Bow armor near water levels can bounce yamato shells.

I also always use premium german sonar. 1000000000000 times better than the useless short duration radar against dd-s. It basicly a DD free kill if he come close enough. U detect torps , avoid them with 5s rudder shift and masacre them with godly 118s duration.

Before that i was using full AA build with defensive AA for some time and this thing can melt t9 planes with defensive AA on. But build thats useless 3 games from 4 is just stupid. Sonar is much better.

The ship has +50 percent comander exp + the basic 50 percent all exp for 100 percent comander exp. Best ship to train german comander.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Has great guns, can cit other cruisers at max range. All other attributes a bit meh however. Bad AA, won't be torping anyone either.

 

Don't think I'd have bought one, I got one in an Xmas box. But I enjoy using it.

[Slezman]

Has great guns, can cit other cruisers at max range. All other attributes a bit meh however. Bad AA, won't be torping anyone either.

 

Don't think I'd have bought one, I got one in an Xmas box. But I enjoy using it.

 

Pleasure to see that Eugen was given for free to someone who deserve it. I remember my summer holiday spent mostly by reading of Scharnhorst threads with you as one of the most active in posts.

Good to hear that you enjoy Eugen as I do, it is my key vehicle.

[Gnomus]

I can't write in english very well anyway I tried at least 40 ships and I play in many different way but I never enjoyed to play with this ship, sometimes I try again but no way, without a key to recover this is a unuseful ship. Atago VIII premuim can recover, Graf Spee Vi can recover, Why not this ship. No way i think I'll sell it.

 

First it is practically copy of Hipper. It is perfectly viable ship. It might not be OP, but it is no way weak.

 

Second Atago and Graf Spee have recover skill, out of premium cruisers. Yubari, Iwaki Alpha, Emden, Marblehead, Atlanta, Flint, Indianapolis, Diana, Aurora, Murmansk, Krasny Krim, Molotov, Kutuzov and Belfast do not have recover skill. Why should Prinz Eugen have it? It doesn't need it. With recovery it would become OP (as Atago already is) and clearly superior to Hipper. That would be bad, even if we already have Atago > Mogami situation.

[Comrad_StaIin]

every Tier 8 CA needs the Heal

[A_British_Hedgehog]

For some strange reason I enjoy the Eugen more than the Hipper...I can find no real reason why but I just do.  Regardless of the games I have in it I always enjoy them; whether it is a loss or not I dont care.  I am a hoarder though so would of brought it regardless and I think most  of the reviews on it are correct about it being a Hipper clone but it just has a special something about it for me. 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Was one of my better games, damage was split in 3rds between HE/AP and Fire&Flood.

 

Flags and camo buffs with daily bonus but no other buffs.

 

 

Not my go-to ship by any means but she's growing on me. 

[Blitzkrieguk]

 

Pleasure to see that Eugen was given for free to someone who deserve it. I remember my summer holiday spent mostly by reading of Scharnhorst threads with you as one of the most active in posts.

Good to hear that you enjoy Eugen as I do, it is my key vehicle.

 

I was in the boat of I kind of wanted it but wasn't going to buy it. And got it in 1 of the 5 Admiral boxes I purchased, took it out while not in my optimal gaming conditions since I'm not at my beast computer but on a little laptop. It performed nicely for 20 FPS average and internet issues, and found the guns punchy with a nice set of torps. Not a bad ship, I'm glad I got it in a christmas box, especially since the T8's I have to play with friends I don't particularly like while waiting to get my Bismarck. 

[lafeel]

Wasn't even that good in the war tbh. There's a reason why you never saw much of the Admiral Hipper class apart from the Bismarck chase, and the invasion of Norway.

 

The Hipper class had some serious flaws that aren't really on display if you just look at the on paper statistics.

[VC381]

Damn you guys getting it from presents I kind of want this ship, for the history and for something different (haven't taken German cruisers past T5) and of course the LOOKS (damn!). But I don't really want to pay full price for it, now I don't know if I should just get it on that measly 15% discount or keep trying my luck with presents...

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I really do love how punchy the AP is on her, blowing holes in cruiser citadels from 17km.

 

Still, unlike Atago and Kutuzov the Pudding has no real escape/tanking mechanism. Although I did manage to angle vs a Scharn at close range in her earlier, not sure whether that shows her armour is any good however.

[Exocet6951]

 All other attributes a bit meh however. Bad AA,

 

99 dps at 4.5km

134 dps at 3.5km

plus some 40-ish at 2km that doesn't really matter

 

That's more AA at all ranges than the Chapayev, Edinburgh better long and mid range than the NO by a large margin (which gets half its DPS from 20mm guns).

The only one to beat her and the Hipper is the Kutuzov, and even then only by 30 dps of long range AA.

 

 

 

Claiming it has bad AA is confounding, and quite probably the reason BBs have been uberbuffed in the AA department.

[Affeks]

Seeing as Prinz is on sale (all tier 8s plus) I'm thinking of buying it. Worth it?

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

99 dps at 4.5km

134 dps at 3.5km

plus some 40-ish at 2km that doesn't really matter

 

That's more AA at all ranges than the Chapayev, Edinburgh better long and mid range than the NO by a large margin (which gets half its DPS from 20mm guns).

The only one to beat her and the Hipper is the Kutuzov, and even then only by 30 dps of long range AA.

 

 

 

Claiming it has bad AA is confounding, and quite probably the reason BBs have been uberbuffed in the AA department.

 

 Maybe but you wouldn't buff her to have an AA umbrella for friendlies would you? Or would you... 

 

I'd still argue that a ship needs defensive AA to be truly good vs AA. Which no BB has yet. (I await WG giving it to their historic Russian BB).

 

 

[Exocet6951]

 

 Maybe but you wouldn't buff her to have an AA umbrella for friendlies would you? Or would you... 

 

I'd still argue that a ship needs defensive AA to be truly good vs AA. Which no BB has yet. (I await WG giving it to their historic Russian BB).

 

 

 

Don't need to buff it much, just manual AA, which is always a smart choice considering the limited choice of skills.

That alone is a nice deathzone around your ship.

 

Seriously, people considering that the second best ship in terms of AA has "bad AA" is very probably a reason why there's always a MASSIVE powercreep in WG's games.

If something isn't the best, then it's bad => queue a series of buff and the next line of the same class  being even stronger.

[Amon_ITA]

I'd like an Advice on this ship.

 

I got her from a Captain's present. I already have Hipper, and would like to keep them both, but specialize them in different roles.

 

If i had to make one of them an anti air platform, with a 15 point specialized captain, which one should i choose ?

 

Thanks

[fgibert]

Well I do not own Hipper or Eugen, but the AA skills are the same whatever the ships:

- BFT for 1-pt => 10% more DPM

- AFT + Manual AA for 4 pts each => 20 % more range on all AA guns + 100% more DPM on the dual-purpose 105mm guns

- (if you use the Defensive AA consumable instead of the Sonar) Superintendent for 3 pts to get one more defensive fire charge

 

This leaves you to choose any 2-pts skill that suits you (Expert Marksman or Incoming Fire Alert being the "common" choices here)

And since you have 2 4-pts skills instead of one 4-pts and one 5-pts, with a 15pts captain, you can take Basics of Survivability with your remaining point

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

Don't need to buff it much, just manual AA, which is always a smart choice considering the limited choice of skills.

That alone is a nice deathzone around your ship.

 

Seriously, people considering that the second best ship in terms of AA has "bad AA" is very probably a reason why there's always a MASSIVE powercreep in WG's games.

If something isn't the best, then it's bad => queue a series of buff and the next line of the same class  being even stronger.

 

 I'd still rather take DE or AFT. Although I can see it's debatable between AFT & Manual AA.Wouldn't take two level 4 skills instead of CE.

 

AFT can be buffed with Defensive AA should CV get scary and numerous but generally I'd use Hydro.

 

Cruisers shouldn't usually sail alone anyway so the overlapping damage should be sufficient.

[Stingz]

I have just purchased the Prinz Eugen in this weeks " sale "  ( as a new year treat )...It has always been my favourite German Heavy Cruiser and I really enjoy my time using her in WOW...However I strongly believe that WG should definitely introduce the U  ( Heal ) key for this great ship .Also I do not get why it is fitted with an Me 109 fighter plane ? According to information she was fitted with 3 Arado 196 float planes for recon, so why is the recon 196 NOT available for this ship ? Answers please WG ?

[deadly_if_swallowed]

Not sure where to look up what aircraft is fitted to ships in game, but i figure the Ar 196 is not a fighter plane but only a spotter. You get those (spotting aircraft, not sure if it's an Ar196) on Roon and Hindenburg. And honestly, I have not missed it yet Spotting aircraft can be used on Hindenburg alright to spam shells at long distance every 8.8 or 10 seconds, arguably on Roon for the same reason. But I fail to see the purpose on Hipper.