Bismarck problem

[FaceFisted]

I have just unlocked Bismarck and... I have no idea why is everyone crying about this ship? It has no armor, everyone can do massive and I mean MASSIVE damage to it from any angle, so that turtleback gimmick - useless. Only difference in reality when it comes to damage is that enemies won't get any Citadel damage badges, while the damage will be the same.

 

How to play this ship? It seems to be weakest BB on T8 now. It seemed stronger in previous patches, but now... it's shadow of former self.

[psl_58]

Its an arcade game. what did you expect?

[sharpie65]

Are you using the stock hull? If so, that might be why you're experiencing poor performance in it.

[FaceFisted]

Yes, stock hull. This is dreadful. Almost like sailing in a cruiser.

[Comrad_StaIin]

[WingedHussar_Adler]

I allwas like this claims of silent nerfs. It is not a shadow of a ship it was....and how would you know if you just now unlocked it?):

 

Ye ye i know troll. Hook is here

[FaceFisted]

I am not trolling, wtf. I have just unlocked it, just bough it for the first time and this is my experience with it - there is no angling with this ship. It's almost every other BB can be as dangerous as Yamato against it. Both North Carolina and Amagi have better armor than this ship.

 

I also see that I can do same level of damage to other Bismarcks. I am seriously considering to sell it and re-buy NC for T8, even if I have used a ton of dragon flags to train captain up to T5 manual fire skill. Yes, manual fire can be dangerous to DDs, but you can't let other ships come near to this distance. No wonder we have so many camper/sniper noobs in Bismarcks. Not my play style.

 

This is all in stock hull, but B hull doesn't give any increased armor, so I wonder if that will be a waste of additional 4M credits or not?

 

ONLY good thing about "armor" of this ship is that it can repair that massive damage since there can't be citadel hits against it.

[Guillotine]

Stock ships are bad and mostly shadow of its upgraded brother. Does port UI even show armor of upgrades?

 

If i remember correctly Nagato stock vs C hull armor it doesnt show, but difference in Dmg taken is massive.

[FaceFisted]

There are no differences in UI for B hull. Everything is the same.

 

As I said - I am also doing this massive damage both to other Bismarcks and even Tirpitzs. Something is definitely off in this patch. I remember that I had such a hard time against those ships when I was in NC and Amagi, but in this patch... no problem at all. There are almost no bounces and every hit does some damage.

[FaceFisted]

That's it. I am selling this junk. How can people play in this, I have no idea.

[Exocet6951]

That's it. I am selling this junk. How can people play in this, I have no idea.

 

And yet, it was still the most performing tier8 BB yesterday by a whopping 3% WR

 

 

Sounds like a player problem.

[FaceFisted]

 

And yet, it was still the most performing tier8 BB yesterday by a whopping 3% WR

 

 

Sounds like a player problem.

 

Have you see T8 lately? Mostly german BBs.  It's easy to be "most performing" when it is most played BB on that tier. Have you seen T9 and T10? Infestation of German BBs.

 

Just for test, I wanted to attack only bismarcks in last match. No matter how enemies were angled, I always did constant damage, almost every shot did something.

 

And based on what is this a player problem? I have 62% WR for solo play.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Hull A is bad yes and you probably won't achieve full power until you get a 15 point captain and an elite'ed ship.

 

Main guns are fairly bad, I find they are worse than the Tirp ones for accuracy and the only difference is the Accuracy module for me.

[Exocet6951]

 

Have you see T8 lately? Mostly german BBs.  It's easy to be "most performing" when it is most played BB on that tier. Have you seen T9 and T10? Infestation of German BBs.

 

Just for test, I wanted to attack only bismarcks in last match. No matter how enemies were angled, I always did constant damage, almost every shot did something.

 

And based on what is this a player problem? I have 62% WR for solo play.

 

Actually yesterday, the most played was the NC.

 

 

You can have all the WR you want, if you can't perform with an overperforming ship, that's your problem, no it's.

It happens to everyone, having difficulty with a ship, don't take it personally.

[Ferry_25]

Hm. Stat wise ( I KNOW: it's part of the whole story) you're not doing too bad in Bismarck, OP. I'd advice you to give it some more chance. I don't have BM yet but I do have Tirpitz. And I think it's a hell of a ship. Also hull upgrades may not seem to make much difference "on paper" but ingame it might feel like you have a complete new ship! I also think the German BB's shine best in close combat.

 

Edit: like excocet is saying. Maybe's it's that 1 PIA ship in the line for you. Everyone has those. I have such a profound, genuine, unconditional hate affair with Baltiless f.e.

[FaceFisted]

Only good match in it. I will check out B hull before I sell this.

 

 

 

 

 

[Draconobilis]

This is the "cry dd baby syndrom" similar to "bb cry baby syndrom " (just here is about cv ) , Bismarck can turn on hydro , charge in smoke and poor vegetable dd die .

[FaceFisted]

This is the "cry dd baby syndrom" similar to "bb cry baby syndrom " (just here is about cv ) , Bismarck can turn on hydro , charge in smoke and poor vegetable dd die .

 

And this ^^ is a "regular forum troll with no constructive feedback" syndrome.

[Jester86]

She is a good ship. Manual secondaries are hilarious fun! But yes she does have a few weaknesses, regular pen damage results in 10k-20k salvos from other BB's, worse main battery than the Amagi and Nor Cal, weaker torpedo belt also.

 

Overall she suits my more aggressive playstyle than the other 2 at T8. But if your team are potatoes you can easily be overwhelmed and are not a solo warrior machine if you find yourself out shipped.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

Clear ltp issue

[Redcap375]

I thought the Bismarck would be my ultimate style BB and its a good ship but you know what? I liked the gne better!

 

MM isn't kind to it and its guns feel a lot weaker. Its a area denial BB, no doubts and you can have some really fun games in it. The trouble is higher tier BBs punish it a lot more then the gne had to put up with.  I think I will like the NC more (grinding at the moment)

 

Good ship though and wait for the upgrades m8

 

[FaceFisted]

Bought B hull and that small HP boost helps, but it is still the same. Everyone can damage you and angling makes very little difference. Only under extreme angles Bismarck can bounce something.

 

Other problem I see with this ship is long reload on repair consumable, at least when compared to other T8 BBs, so fires will damage this BB no matter what on top of that regular damage.

 

Gneisenau on T7 is much stronger and more useful ship than Bismarck, even with 1 gun less and smaller secondary gun radius.

 

I grinded so badly to unlock Bismarck and now... this really feels like a letdown.

 

I will stop here with complaints. This is not a ship for aggressive solo play.

 

p.s. Sold.

[Jester86]

The Gnei is a good ship. But 6 guns is a pain in the rear, with some awful trollish dispersion.

 

 

 

If you have the Scharn (like I do) then it is my go to between them. But if I didn't have it, I would still have the Gnei as it is a huge amount of fun.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

 

I will stop here with complaints. This is a ship IN WHICH I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY

 

p.s. Sold.

 

fixed for ya....cheers mate...good you sold it and stoped this noncence of a thread

[FaceFisted]

The Gnei is a good ship. But 6 guns is a pain in the rear, with some awful trollish dispersion.

 

 

 

 

If you have the Scharn (like I do) then it is my go to between them. But if I didn't have it, I would still have the Gnei as it is a huge amount of fun.

 

Gnei is awesome ship. Even if I was unlucky with mm, I will give it another go because with it I was able to pull actions like this one 1 vs 3 and still win

 

 

Bismarck will not do well in this situation. It would be forced to camp far away from here and pray that enemies dont focus him.

 

This may be the clear example why I find Bismarck to be a weak ship. It is easily taken down, but if you play with it out of reach and let others ignore you, then you might actually do something with it.

 

 

 

fixed for ya....cheers mate...good you sold it and stoped this noncence of a thread

 

I actually have better WR in Bismarck than you and I see how it forces you to play but that still doesn't meant that I have to like that ship. It forces solo players to snipe and camp and because it's armor is so weak, it is primary target for everyone. XP and credits Pinata. Camping may be your play style, which says something about you, but that is not me.