[DKS-] Adamo1 Players 61 posts Report post #1 Posted December 22, 2016 Hello all, the game is great so far just important elements of sea-fights still are missing: When will submarines finally enter the game?? Sea fights without subs are like tankbattles without heavy tanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #2 Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) never and no sea battles without subs are like tank battles without AT Rifles. Edited December 22, 2016 by Srle_Vigilante Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DKS-] Adamo1 Players 61 posts Report post #3 Posted December 22, 2016 never and no sea battles without subs are like tank battles without AT Rifles. What a blindfolded opinion - OMG did you never hear about military submarines? Do you know important they are? Subs ARE a basic elements of Sea-Marines worldwide ...they are used and built until today omg.. Again: Seafights without subs are like tankwars without heavy tanks. Ridiculous, that devs here have no clue about subs. Look at "Steel Ocean"...and learn how a great and amazing submarine-mechanic can be realized. DO IT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #4 Posted December 22, 2016 Yes eggsacly i looked at steel ocean and its horrible. Subs just don't fit into the meta because they are too slow and have next to no armaments and would always get raped by destroyers or even outperformed by them in 100% of the cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenacious_torps ∞ Players 1,373 posts Report post #5 Posted December 22, 2016 This forum actually has a search box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #6 Posted December 22, 2016 This forum actually has a search box. I heard google has that as well. Not sure if true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EKV] Meridian112 Players 23 posts 17,432 battles Report post #7 Posted December 22, 2016 If subs enter the game then WG must put many things in game also.more then subs. You need Destroyer escorts with active sonars,metal chains to detect them,then depth charges to sunk them then PBY Catalina planes for spotting them and PBY's you cna not put on ship because it is almost a flying ship. So,more trouble then worth around putting subs in game. Not mention that you must set depth charge timer on what deep it will explode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #8 Posted December 22, 2016 Strikes me that as WoW is a 'surface' game that it would be hugely boring for those of us that enjoy the way a game looks, as well as plays, to watch a stick moving through the water. I am sure that if you really want to play a submarine game there must be at least ONE out there on the interwebz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon93 Sailing Hamster 3,124 posts 1,275 battles Report post #9 Posted December 22, 2016 What a blindfolded opinion - OMG did you never hear about military submarines? Do you know important they are? Subs ARE a basic elements of Sea-Marines worldwide ...they are used and built until today omg.. Again: Seafights without subs are like tankwars without heavy tanks. Ridiculous, that devs here have no clue about subs. Look at "Steel Ocean"...and learn how a great and amazing submarine-mechanic can be realized. DO IT. Submarines never took part in fleet engagements so they aren't like tank engagements without heavy tanks. Subs were used as commerce raiders and took shots at warships only as targets of opportunity. In Steel Oceans their subs aren't subs, they are pretty much MTBs which can go underwater. If you want subs just play Silent Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostychan Beta Tester 909 posts 14,641 battles Report post #10 Posted December 22, 2016 AFAIK submarines were only used for raiding, but not used during actual engagements. A fleet would just be severely slowed down by submarines, and non-submarines can't spend too much time sailing around, risking getting spotted and intercepted. Also people would start bitching once they encounter an I-400 class submarines. Most HP, AND F***ING DIVE BOMBERS! @Meridian112 the IJN had the Akitsushima - a Seaplane Tender carrying a H8K, larger than the US PBY Catailna. Don't know though whether other nations also had ships capable of carrying flying boats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Mistery Alpha Tester 658 posts 2,515 battles Report post #11 Posted December 22, 2016 Hello all, the game is great so far just important elements of sea-fights still are missing: When will submarines finally enter the game?? Sea fights without subs are like tankbattles without heavy tanks. never come and that good for everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #12 Posted December 22, 2016 Following the trend introduced with Bastion forts, WG may well develop AI controlled submarines. You couldn't see them, you couldn't sink them, but they would be there to randomly blow up your ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
procrastinatingStudent Beta Tester 506 posts 6,411 battles Report post #13 Posted December 22, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #14 Posted December 22, 2016 Hello all, the game is great so far just important elements of sea-fights still are missing: When will submarines finally enter the game?? Sea fights without subs are like tankbattles without heavy tanks. Not really. In the real life engagements fought by the ships present in this game submarines did not have any weight. Submarines were an important asset in commerce raiding, and in scouting BEFORE fleet engagements, and in sinking crippled ships AFTER fleet engagements were over. I don't think they should be present in the current game modes, really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDEAL] Pastaiolo Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 669 posts 2,513 battles Report post #15 Posted December 22, 2016 Finally a new question that has never been asked before. To keep it short, hopefully never gonna happen. They don't have a place for it, you will either make them terribly arcade (Steel Ocean) or terribly boring (having to travel underwater at 3-5 knots unless it's a high tier sub), without even considering the obvious sonar rework for DDs and cruisers, the fact the faster the ship (or sub) the more noise it makes and so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PedeNuts Players 103 posts 1,279 battles Report post #16 Posted December 22, 2016 Niiiice, OP. See you again tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #17 Posted December 22, 2016 Niiiice, OP. See you again tomorrow. Was wondering who else would pick up on the obvious troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #18 Posted December 22, 2016 This forum actually has a search box. If he used the search he would find the same titled thread he started yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenacious_torps ∞ Players 1,373 posts Report post #19 Posted December 22, 2016 If he used the search he would find the same titled thread he started yesterday. See? If there's an externalized memory for his convenience, why doesn't he use it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T_D_G] B010011A Players 389 posts 9,821 battles Report post #20 Posted December 22, 2016 You have stealth torpedo boats, please return to your Steel Ocean game and stop crying here for submarines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #21 Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Maybe WG should test subs in a one-off game like Halloween. A game with some AI-subs and some ships with depth charges. Just for fun and also experiment . Edited December 22, 2016 by anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #22 Posted December 22, 2016 wait where did i put that video.... ah here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #23 Posted December 22, 2016 Hello all, the game is great so far just important elements of sea-fights still are missing: When will submarines finally enter the game?? Sea fights without subs are like tankbattles without heavy tanks. Reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulcusrodens Players 347 posts 5,755 battles Report post #24 Posted December 22, 2016 Hello all, the game is great so far just important elements of sea-fights still are missing: When will submarines finally enter the game?? Sea fights without subs are like tankbattles without heavy tanks. NEVER seriously, destroyers are WoWs submarines. with the notable difference that they can be killed like every other ship class. and that makes them a fun part of game. imagine a class of ships that can kill everything with no counter(except maybe one single class - and what if there's no one left in a team?), that can flee and stay invisible whatever happens, ending almost always the battles alive. add a totally disproportionate firepower and you'll get something that most players will loathe except the worst category, the trolls. who will have their little annoying fun while ruining the game for everyone else oh, wait, carriers are ALREADY in the game, damn it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] Dirty_Filthy_Scrublord Beta Tester 110 posts 15,245 battles Report post #25 Posted December 22, 2016 Wont get subs in this game, can you imagine the tears all those BB drivers will shed when they realise they are vulnerable?? And IF they do put subs in, then they`ll have a detection "bloom" when they fire torps that`ll make them visible from 30km away!! Nah, WG wouldn`t want to upset the BBabies. Btw, intentional sarcasm here...don`t want any confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites