Service cost for what?

[Benedictus_de_Suede]

Hmm...

I had a descent match with my Gearing and did +105 k dmg while receiving zero dmg myself. Finished up on 2nd Place in team. And still I have 180 000 credits to pay for service.... In total i LOST -65 956 credits.

Seriously...this system dont make any sence at all.

[Slezman]

Only WG know if there is the only sence that would make sence because of this approach - their profit form T9-T10 games.

I am sure that change of the costs in higher tiers shall help WG and the game itself, but I do not have data as basis as they have available.

Hopefully WG know what they are doing, and not making another Warplanes here...

[JiksTBS]

A while back the economy was changed. Repair costs were removed & Servicing costs increased. This was supposed to encourage people to stop playing so passively, i.e. show up, do nothing, it will cost a fortune ... do a bunch of stuff & die, no where near as bad as it would have been.

 

Obviously this is no help to you as you were in a DD & therefore working for a living anyway rather than reversing, bow-on, border hugging behind an island or whatever the passengers were doing prior to this change.

[cro_pwr]

change to economy so people play more agressive and don't camp on spawn so they don't loose credits.

sadly, not working as intended and BBs are still sniping from 20km being completely useless for their team

[_cosmo]

It's so that you don't feel that if you go in front and brawl, you will pay more. Ultimately, it's an attempt to stop everybody sitting at the back and camping, hoping not to get scratched. Hell, you are supposed to get more money now if you recive dmg as all the misses would increase the potential dmg received, which is rewarded. 

[beercrazy]

i think the idea of the new system is good its just the way its implemented that seems screwed up because we don't know exactly how much extra credits we are getting for tanking damage, spotting capping ect to what we used to get before

[mtm78]

It's the cost of provisioning for the crew, they need their chocolate bars and coca-cola ya know Also while you didn't get your paint scratched, WG decided you do need a full month in dry dock hence the costs

 

Ow for a serious answer, see the posts above mine

[ColonelPete]

Hmm...

I had a descent match with my Gearing and did +105 k dmg while receiving zero dmg myself. Finished up on 2nd Place in team. And still I have 180 000 credits to pay for service.... In total i LOST -65 956 credits.

Seriously...this system dont make any sence at all.

 

It would be strange if it made sence. But it makes sense, since ships do not drive themselves with love and fresh air. I guess any in-depth explanation would be wasted on you.

[DBoZ_Skyline]

Imo this "new" service cost is a fail.

I dont like to sit back camping in my BB`s since I like to brawl. Always have and always will. But I have to admit I make in fact LESS credits now with the "new" cost system.

Before I could go in and brawl do a brainfart fail and get sunk early in the round in the montana and took a hefty rep cost for it.

Other rounds I still go in and brawl but for some reason I can never understand hardly anyone did shoot at me. Hence I still did good damage but hardly had any damage done to me = Nice payout.

With this "new" service cost you can not afford to screw up or fail in some way. If you do you get sunk and pay alot, you do ok thanks to RNG desides that "nope m8 this round you will not hit mutch no matter how you aim" but still you have not taken mutch damage, you still got a hefty service cost to pay.

Like someone always say in this forum " its not a simulation game " well ffs... :s   then dont give me the game with a simulation service cost :s

 

Now with the yamato, and the german BB`s around the montana is nothing more than a pure joke to play. either yamato or the kurfurst can be played imo unless you wanna drown in credit loss.

 

So I hope they go back to the old model. People still camp and border grind cause no matter the cost etc. They dont want to get sunk. Simple as that

Even if I go in and tank to help the team out or cause I just wanna brawl, the old cost system was better. Better credit gain overall imo.

 

But hey... 3 things in life one can for sure count on. 1. Death,  2. Bills,  3. WG messes up a good game

 

 

 

just my 2 cents

[DragonstrikerOrigin]

Well how about Petrol? How about the Cost of Ammunition that you used in the battle?

 

I believe those things are not for free, especialy not IRL. So i already would suggest get used to it and if you do not run premium account you will probably not get any money out of those battles.

 

IF you want seriously to play always T10 then buy the Camo for T10, then you have a service cost reduction of 50%.

[Benedictus_de_Suede]

It's the cost of provisioning for the crew, they need their chocolate bars and coca-cola ya know Also while you didn't get your paint scratched, WG decided you do need a full month in dry dock hence the costs

 

Ow for a serious answer, see the posts above mine

 

Well I guess the sailors at are really fat and hungry then compared to the skinny ones at lower tiers...lol

 

 

 

It would be strange if it made sence. But it makes sense, since ships do not drive themselves with love and fresh air. I guess any in-depth explanation would be wasted on you.

 

I don´t like your arrogant tone...The point of having a forum, a least in part , is that we should be able to question things that we feel is flawed - right? If we dont question things they wont improve...

 

 

I do get the point that the service cost need to rise with tiers or we all end up playing T10 battles....And perhaps it is also better that we skip the "repair cost" so that people can man up and fight. I get that too...

This is not a big issue for me but the system still dont make a lot of sence. Especially if u consider that BB and DDs service cost are equal. Perhaps they should lower the cost for CA´s and DD´s. Btw my ship apparently need a new camo paint job even though I didn´t take any hit - does that make any sence to you??

 

 

 

 

[tenacious_torps]

When you hire a lady of negotiable affection, you have to pay, if you get it up or not. And yes, she does need a new paint job. 

[ColonelPete]

It is still no wonder it does not make sence to you.

[Benedictus_de_Suede]

Well how about Petrol? How about the Cost of Ammunition that you used in the battle?

 

I believe those things are not for free, especialy not IRL. So i already would suggest get used to it and if you do not run premium account you will probably not get any money out of those battles.

 

IF you want seriously to play always T10 then buy the Camo for T10, then you have a service cost reduction of 50%.

 

First. The current system dont take into consideration how much fuel is burned, how many shells u fired (in WoT it does) and if u really need to paint a new camo on your ship after every single battle. Do you really think that the real service cost for a T10 BB equal that of a T10 DD? Secondly I play and enjoy game i the whole spectrum of Tiers. All Im trying to say is that I find the service cost a little bit to high and its to flat, boooring and static.

[Nechrom]

Crew wages, fuel, food, supplies and service for normal wear and tear.

[ColonelPete]

All Im trying to say is that I find the service cost a little bit to high and its to flat, boooring and static.

 

Then say that and do not make stuff up about logic. Then maybe one can take you seriously.

[300ConfirmedKills]

 

First. The current system dont take into consideration… how many shells u fired (in WoT it does) …

Yes it does. It's shown clearly on the 'Credits and XP' page of the results screen.

[Babykim]

Dude, one torpedo costed about 10-20k USD at that time:

 

As for costs of German torpedoes, you can find various websites quoting c. 50,000 Reichsmarks for a G7a torpedo and half as much for a G7e. These may appear suspiciously round numbers, but the original source looks credible enough: Eberhard Roessler's article 'Die deutsche Torpedofertigung 1939-1945' (Marine Rundschau 83 (1986), part 1, pp. 31-3).

 

In 1938, 2.49M=$1 means 50,000M=$20,080.32.

 

And I have not included the cost of toilet paper for the Gearing's complement of 336.

 

You came off cheap!

[Shaka_D]

@OP wargaming has to control the economy somehow, it's what drives conversions from dubloons, buying of ships and stops players reaching tier 10 and staying there forever. They want players to spend 'actual' money to drive their business model..they need to make money. I do sympathise because I think the system is far from perfect, too much hard work goes unrewarded and is in fact punished, while many who sit at the back get rewarded more at times.

 

To ofset the costs we have premium accounts (more credits per match), signal flags, the premium camo with it's built in cost reduction benefit, and of course premium ships...another way they want players to pay a premium fee to be able to pay for the privelege of playing their game. Get used to it and adjust your game accordingly. Just be happy it's not as screwed as the WoT economy.......yet!

 

My only real complaint so far is even my premium ships seem to be making less money than they use to, but until someone provides actual proof I'll only be accused of observation bias, etc etc. I only know how they were busted in WoT for reducing income over time a long while back with indirect nerfs here and there, all in the name of 'balance' and so on.

 

 

[Aotearas]

Potatoes aren't for free, you know.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Think of it as a fee for being able to use that ship...

Anyone ever been in an italian restaurant / cafeteria should know that concept - there they call it coperto

[Elenortirion]

how many shells u fired

 

actually this one is counted - when you go into detailed service costs you'll see base servicing fee, main battery ammo resupply and torpedo resupply listed as separate entries

 

this one got extremely noticeable to me since I've got akizuki as this ship tends to fire tremendous amouts of shells within single battle and guess what? I quite often tend to pay for those shells more than for actuall servicing >.>

 

if u really need to paint a new camo on your ship after every single battle. 

 

mechanics wisely every camouflage bought lasts exacly one battle and if ou have auto resupply enabled it will be resupplied costing you credits.....

 

Do you really think that the real service cost for a T10 BB equal that of a T10 DD?

 

it is not, last time I checked my yamato friend was paying for his service waaaaay more than I pay for my bills in any DD up to T9 - excluding ammo costs ofc

[albinbino]

Well new economy with repair costs that is not based on damaged ship is horrible move by WG. With tier 10 ship already at start of battle you are -240.000 credits, so you have to race against time and your friendly ships to do some damage to enemy in order to compensate even little bit your loss.

This make tier 10 players to do illogical moves and intentional mistakes because it is race against time. Unless you have premium cammo or premium status than you think less of this.

[Panocek]

Well new economy with repair costs that is not based on damaged ship is horrible move by WG. With tier 10 ship already at start of battle you are -240.000 credits, so you have to race against time and your friendly ships to do some damage to enemy in order to compensate even little bit your loss.

This make tier 10 players to do illogical moves and intentional mistakes because it is race against time. Unless you have premium cammo or premium status than you think less of this.

 

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/01/29/wows-datamined-repair-ammo-cost-value-tables/

You get sunk in tier 10 BB. Now you pay 180k, before change repair cost was 271k. Minimal "maintenance fee" for simply entering battle and not being hit was 46k IIRC.

 

For someone who wants to play agressively in BB, its straightforward buff in event they take massive damage or go down. For camping scrubs... boo flippin hoo

[lup3s]

For someone who wants to play agressively in BB, its straightforward buff in event they take massive damage or go down. For camping scrubs... boo flippin hoo

 

well said