When this aufull joke with low tier British Cruisers will end?

[Anthoniusii]

WG announced that German Destroyers will be on their way to the game.

Funny...German destroyers , as Italian ones had ONE fear...British Cruisers.

But according to WG Russian Biassed and noationalistic point of view , British cruisers were a bunch of crap and their crews were worthless compairing to Russian, German and Jappanese or US ones.

On he one hand we have INVISIBLE and OP destroyers that cause more dammage than Battleships with their tiny guns.

On the other hand we have British cruisers that are suposed that hunt those OP destroyers with guns making LESS damage and HAVING SMALLER GUN RANGE!!!!

Can a WG developer explain how a Russian destroyer with 130mm gun has 15 km range and a british cruiser with 152mm gun has only 13?

Before some WG defender aka [edited]...er...of WG , say that i speak nonsence lets compare some LIGHT CRUISERS.

Tier 5 Konigsburg:

Guns 9

Gun range 16 kms

Torpedos 12

Hit points (2nd hull) 24300

Tier 6 LEANDER

Guns 8

Gun range 13 kms

Torpedos 8

Hit points (2nd hull) 28700

All tier 5 cruisers have an average gun ramge of 13.5 kms

All tier 6 cruisers have an average gun range of 14.5 kms

Should be LEANDER a tier 5 instead of a tier 6?

Just like LEANDER the comparison of Fiji would be unfair with Nurburg not because I want to avoid it but because EVERY OTHER ROSTER has a heavy cruiser in that spot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mahan US destroyer can sink all British cruisers (not to mention Benson that can sink even tier 7 Battleships ONLY with its OP HE shells) without a scratch.

BTW what is the meaning of the captain's skill that allow low caliber guns to have extra range?

Does this mean that that captain is Harry Potter and uses majic to make them fly more?

Why destroyers STILL remain unseen -without smokescreen- from cruisers or battleships in distances less than 5 kms?

How a cruiser is suposed to hunt something it does not see..Unless Cruisers and Battleship spotters (douzens on Battleships) that in reality could spot a single 5m boat in several kms, are blind enough to spot 80 to 100m Destroyers!!

Does the event with the new German destroyers means that the game will lose its title and will become World of Invissisble Destroyers?

How come same callibre gun of the Russian cruisers have 40% bigger range than the battle proven British cruisers?

[ollonborre]

[Loran_Battle]

With the Leander

 

 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I love watching low calibre AP plink off BB hulls, it is therapeutic...

 

 

[tenacious_torps]

Joke? Did you see anybody laugh? Before tier 7 that is, apparently that's where things are fun again. 

[bushwacker001]

One of my DD rules - British cruisers, T5 or T6 upwards are to be avoided as more often than not there is a good player in them because the potatoes have given up after T4.

[Captain_Strawberry]

Didn't you know? The best thing to use to hunt DD are the KM BB~

[Kevbar]

One of my DD rules - British cruisers, T5 or T6 upwards are to be avoided as more often than not there is a good player in them because the potatoes have given up after T4.

 

Let me introduce myself, I now like to be called "The exception to the rule"

[BadGene616]

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[SovietFury43]

I grant you that Emerald was pretty crappy but Leander? Are you serious? The Leander may be the best tier 6 cruiser in the game, So far i am liking it even more then the Aoba, and i love Japanese cruisers. If you are doing poorly in the Leander the problem is you, not the ship.

[principat121]

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Step 3.1)

go to another stats side like warships.today which can display all older stats from the past and see this profile.

 

confirm step 4

 

 

[Comodoro_Allande]

When I saw the title I was thinking on the excellent HE citadels to Caledons and Danaes WITH THE CAMPBELTOWN. Obvious clickbait

 

[BadGene616]

I grant you that Emerald was pretty crappy but Leander? Are you serious? The Leander may be the best tier 6 cruiser in the game, So far i am liking it even more then the Aoba, and i love Japanese cruisers. If you are doing poorly in the Leander the problem is you, not the ship.

The only flaw on the emerald in the shitty state of t5 mm. And that low tier bbs lack a lot of superstructure. At t5 it's very workable.

[Agantas]

Leander is a really nice ship.

I grant you that Emerald was pretty crappy but Leander? Are you serious? The Leander may be the best tier 6 cruiser in the game, So far i am liking it even more then the Aoba, and i love Japanese cruisers. If you are doing poorly in the Leander the problem is you, not the ship.

 

Molotov outperforms Leander stat-wise, but Leander does come second in terms of damage done and kills and third in terms of win rate (Perth is second). I bought it not too long ago due to the tier 6 ship price discount and I've been liking the ship so far.

[Webley_Mark]

I came here... Because of reasons.

 

[ColonelPete]

More facts, less fiction:

 

Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/12/10 ]
Nation	Class	Tier	Name	Win	Damage	Kills/Battle	Survival
JP	CA	5	Furutaka	48.68	19.340	0.48	20.43
JP	CA	6	Aoba	48.24	23.854	0.50	24.37
KM	CA	5	Koenigsberg	49.65	21.818	0.57	20.47
KM	CA	6	Nurnberg	47.33	20.866	0.46	20.68
RN	CA	5	Emerald	46.10	17.958	0.52	16.85
RN	CA	6	Leander	50.41	29.644	0.77	27.86
SN	CA	5	Kirov	47.20	22.650	0.53	19.76
SN	CA	6	Budyonny	48.29	29.243	0.61	24.82
US	CA	5	Omaha	48.53	19.561	0.48	17.13
US	CA	6	Cleveland	49.48	24.981	0.56	25.45

[mtm78]

Why destroyers STILL remain unseen -without smokescreen- from cruisers or battleships in distances less than 5 kms?

 

Automatically dismissed everything you wrote ..... 

 

 

 

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Nope, don't even need to go that far, just skimming over it and seeing such statements as above automatically lead to step 4. 

[SovietFury43]

The only flaw on the emerald in the shitty state of t5 mm. And that low tier bbs lack a lot of superstructure. At t5 it's very workable.

 

The problem i had with it was that it was just to fragile. I got frontal citadel hits on an Emerald with my Furutaka, When a same tier cruiser can citadel you from the front no wonder the thing just disappears the moment a BB looks at it.

 

And on top of that fragility it lacks manouverability so you can't dodge shots properly either. Its rudder shift time is horrible for such a fragile CL.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

My Leander...

76% Winrate - 44k average damage/battle - 1.29 kills per battle - survival ~40%

 

My Königsberg...

57% Winrate - 36k average damage/battle - 1.16 kills per battle - survival ~20%

 

and the OP Perth...

60% winrate - 48k average damage/battle - 1.11 kills per battle - survival ~28%

 

so somehow I just can't see an "awfull joke"

[Captain_Singleton]

yup i loved the leander too...

[ollonborre]

The only flaw on the emerald in the shitty state of t5 mm. And that low tier bbs lack a lot of superstructure. At t5 it's very workable.

I found that the Emeralds AP performance was not quite up to the standard of what I was expecting from the line. On the Leander it is great, but on the Emerald it felt like Königsberg AP, strong at closer distances but garbage when the target is even slightly angled or at range. And the Emerald also had somewhat lazy arcs I find. 

[ColonelPete]

Königsberg AP is much stronger than Emerald.

No Problem using AP vs DD, Cruisers and non-angled BBs.

 

The performance of UK Tier II to V AP is not very satisfying considering that you do not have an alternative. But with Leander the AP is just magic.

You are in a cruiser and getting attacked by an UK Tier VI+ cruiser? Expect some serious penetration damage. The only thing that angling protects is your citadel.

[Bladezfist]

I found that the Emeralds AP performance was not quite up to the standard of what I was expecting from the line. On the Leander it is great, but on the Emerald it felt like Königsberg AP, strong at closer distances but garbage when the target is even slightly angled or at range. And the Emerald also had somewhat lazy arcs I find. 

 

The arcs are fairly crappy throughout the entire line, especially so with the Neptune and Minotaur. I skipped the Emerald but the Leander is a good ship and everything that follows is borderline OP. Today in 2 games with the Neptune I had 2 enemies become infuriated in chat by my play. You are almost invincible when you play the ships right and the counterplay is just don't go near the island hiding the royal navy cruiser. I think nerfs wont fix it, in fact buffing survivability might actually be a better way of nerfing these ships as it's (especially so starting with the Neptune) the incredible vulnerability that turns you into an invincible / invisible island monster.

 

This wont fix the current playerbase of these ships who have learnt how to wield them but less people would be hardened by the flames into this incredibly annoying and seriously potent threat.

[ollonborre]

 

The arcs are fairly crappy throughout the entire line, especially so with the Neptune and Minotaur.

I know, but what I meant (or forgot to say) is that while the following ships do have floaty arcs, their AP have the oomph to cause damage when you do hit something. The Emerald have both floaty arcs and lack damage when you hit something at >10 km.

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

I love the Leander so much I trained a new 15 point captain with CE after buying the Fiji just to have fun in that ship - is that lewd?