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So here is my painstakingly assembled collection of never were photos, Many are the work of alt_naval, Wherever known, the originator is credited and identified. Due to the large number of pics involved, I will need to break this down in batches. First up: alt_naval's Not Finished page.

 

Francesco Caracciolo Class Battleship

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Furious Class Light Battlecruiser

 

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Lexington Class Battlecruiser

The original 7 funnel design with 10x14" guns

 

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Modified Hood Class Battlecruiser

 

HMS Hood and a sister ship.

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Close up detail Improved Hood.

 

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Normandie Class Battleship

 

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Ersatz Yorck Class Battlecruiser

 

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U.S.S Washington BB-47

 

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And the second half of the Not Finished page...

 

Amagi Class Battlecruiser

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Tosa Class Battleship

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Lexington Class Battlecruiser

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Taksin Class Light Cruiser

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Eendracht Class Light Cruiser

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H-39 Class Battleship

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Lion Class Battleship

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Battleship Kentucky BB66

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Next is alt_naval's Not Started page:

 

 

V.P. Kostenko Design Battleship

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G3 Class Battlecruiser

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N3 Class Battleship

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Italy: 1928 Design Battlecruiser

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Australia: 'Cockatoo' Design Heavy Cruiser

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Surrey Class Heavy Cruiser

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Grom Design Destroyer

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Designed by Marek Twardowski, this is the Grom project destroyer Swedish design ORP Grad

 

 

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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And here is part 2 of the Not Started page...

 

 

 

Fuso Replacement Design Battleship

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Italy: Project 770 Design Cruiser

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Big Five' Pre-War Rebuild

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Spain: Ansaldo Design Heavy Cruiser

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North Carolina 14" armed Battleship

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Dutch 1047 Design Battlecruiser

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Rebuilt Hood Class (Renown style)

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Proposed refit of HMS Hood based on refit of HMS Renown

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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Part 3 of the Not Started page...

 

 

 

O-39 Class Battlecruiser

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Rebuilt Hood Class (KGV style)

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Another proposed rebuild of HMS Hood, based on the KGV class battleship

 

 

 

Montana Class Battleship

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Gascoigne Class Battleship

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B-64 Design Large Cruiser

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A-140 Design Battleship

 

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'Super'Yamato Battleship

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6x20" Main Guns... Need we say more?

 

 

Note that the last two images have been adjusted to better comply with forum standards.

Edited by Yagami_Crewman
This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. An official notification has also been sent.

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Only two entries on the 'no !@#$% way ' page...

 

 

 

Super-Duper Yamato Battleship

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8x20" Main Guns! Can you say 'overkill'?

 

 

 

H-44 Design Battleship

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KMS Tirpitz is dwarfed by H-44...

 

Next will be the page listed as 'Pure Fiction'


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This group is alt_naval's 'pure fiction' page.

 

 

 

Federation of Hispanic States

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Battleship 1914 Project of the "Federated Hispanic States"

 

 

 

Saint Catherine Class Battlecruiser

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From the Tarrantry Saga, based on a drawing by 'THUMPER'...

 

 

 

Formidable Class Battleship

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Part of alt_naval's 'counterfactuals'... This is an 'improved' Queen Elizabeth class battleship. other counterfactuals to follow.

 

 

 

Harima Class Battleship

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The 'Harima' class battleship, a cornerstone of alt_naval's 'alt_japan' project. Two ships built on the cheap using turrets removed from the Fuso and Ise classes.

 

 

 

Kairyu Class Aircraft Carrier

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The Kairyu class Aircraft Carrier, substituted for the Soryu and later ships: Cheap, adequate, expendable... Here we see several at anchor.

 

 

 

Kiyokaze Class Destroyer

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Another alt_japan is this standardized destroyer design.

 

 

 

U.S.S Nelson' Battleship

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What if the USN built a Nelrod of its own? Heaven help us....

 

 

 

 

Schulkreuzer

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This is a Light Cruiser by HoOmAn for 'Wesworld'

 

 

 

Firenze Class Battleship

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alt_naval does Conway's with this take on an Italian 'Vanguard'

 

Battleship Milano

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Next: alt_naval 'Other Stuff'...


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Among the links to other projects: alt_japan, Federated Hispanic States, alt_navale build a ship, counterfactual, are these three pics depicting three of Kido Butai's four carriers burning on June 4, 1942:

 

 

 

Kaga

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Akagi

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Hiryu

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Next up: Naval Counterfactuals.


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Alt_naval Counterfactuals: The USN

 

 

Counterfactual Florida class Battleship

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Almost identical to OTL Pennsylvania class with 12 5" casemate guns instead of 22.

 

 

 

 

Counterfactual New Mexico class Battleship

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Basically a stretched version of OTL BB-45 class with 10x16" guns in 5 twin turrets.

 

 

 

 

South Dakota BB-49 class Battleship

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Constellation class CC

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Design of original Lexington plan with 10x14" guns

 

 

 

 

Boxer class CC

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Basically a US Renown class with 6x16" guns.

 

 

 

 

Bunker Hill class Armored Cruiser

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12x8" guns in 6 twin turret hexagonal arrangement.

 

 

 

Modified Omaha design CL

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Similar to Omaha class with casemate guns replaced with enclosed mounts. Conning tower slightly lower.

 

 

 

 

Huntington class "Improved Omaha" CL

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Similar to OTL proposed improved Omaha with 10x6" guns in 5 twin turrets versus 4 twins in OTL proposal.

 

 

 

 

1920s design CL

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Similar to Pensacola class CA. Possibly an antecedent like Cleveland class CL to Baltimore class CA.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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Alt_naval's Royal Navy Counterfactuals...

 

 

 

 

Tiger Class CC

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Tiger, Lion, Eagle: 8x13.5" guns

 

 

 

 

Vanguard class CC

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8x12" guns

 

 

 

 

Invincible class Super Heavy Cruiser

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12x9.2" guns.

 

 

 

 

Cavendish class Light Cruiser

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Improved Birmingham class cruiser with 12x6" guns. A CL alternative to Hawkins class CA.

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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Alt_naval counterfactual: Larger German Republic Navy, no Scapa Flow...

 

 

 

 

1920s Modernized Konig class Battleship

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1920s Modernized Derfflinger class Battlecruiser.

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Berlin class Light Cruiser.

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9x5.9" guns in 3 triple turrets.

 

 

 

 

Breslau class CL

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8x5.9" guns in 4 twin turrets.

 

 

 

 

Wiesbaden class CL

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8x5.9" guns in 8 single mounts.


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Alt_naval... Dutch Counterfactuals.

 

 

 

 

De Zeven Provincen class Battlecruiser

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8x13.8" guns in 4 twin turrets, Built in Germany

 

 

 

 

Holland class CL

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10x6" guns in 5 twin turrets.

 

 

 

 

Java class CL

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A WWI era design.

 

 

 

 

Van Ewijck class Destroyer

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Based on the RN V and W series Destroyers.

 

 

 

 

Warmont class Destroyer

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Please be sure that you have blurred or removed forbidden symbols off your images. Few Japanese ships had visible IJN rising sun flag, so they have been edited out. Few more have it visible, but rays are not visible so it can be seen as regular Japan flag - those are ok.

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Since when the rising sun flag is an inappropriate symbol???
The JMSDF (Successor of the IJN) uses it to this very day!

Look before editing things please!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag

http://www.seaforces.org/marint/Japan-Maritime-Self-Defense-Force/Destroyer/Hyuga-class-Dateien/image013.jpg


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Since when the rising sun flag is an inappropriate symbol???

The JMSDF (Successor of the IJN) uses it to this very day!

Look before editing things please!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag

http://www.seaforces.org/marint/Japan-Maritime-Self-Defense-Force/Destroyer/Hyuga-class-Dateien/image013.jpg

Apparently since 13/14 February 2015.:sceptic: Didn't you follow this discussion?

 

Anyway, very nice pictures, thanks for sharing them Yagami_Crewman. Too bad for the censorship, but it's already something that this has not become a virtual Gulag (just yet).


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Apparently since 13/14 February 2015.:sceptic: Didn't you follow this discussion?

 

Anyway, very nice pictures, thanks for sharing them Yagami_Crewman. Too bad for the censorship, but it's already something that this has not become a virtual Gulag (just yet).

 

Why should I? I'm here for the never were thread.

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I have blurred the ensigns in the two pics in question. Being able to share this work at all is what is most important. There is more to come including an interesting take on Yamato as if she had survived to modern times.

 

To be continued.


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I have blurred the ensigns in the two pics in question. Being able to share this work at all is what is most important. There is more to come including an interesting take on Yamato as if she had survived to modern times.

 

To be continued.

Well, there are other places where apparently you can share things without having to censor yourself because of fascist (interpretation of) rules. Just a suggestion of course, YMMV, as they say.

Why should I? I'm here for the never were thread.

I suppose because of similar situations?


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Time to get back on track.

 

Alt_naval: Counterfactuals...The Imperial Japanese Navy.

 

 

 

 

Another view of IJN Tosa

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Battleship Owari

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Here is a modified Yamashiro design: One less turret, more efficient compartmentalization.

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IJN Ikoma as a CC. Unified armament of 12 x 10" guns in six twin turrets.

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CL design: A true Destroyer Leader with 12 x 5.5" guns in six twin mounts.

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CL Minase based on British 'C' class cruiser with 5 single mount 5.5" guns.

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If you do post unadulterated pics on the NS forum please post us a link so we can view them without the censorship thanks


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The next batch are a few more taken from Alt_naval's alt_japan:

 

 

 

 

Another view of alt_naval's Fast Fuso...

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A Light Carrier design: IJN Junho

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An improved Takao class.

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Seaplane Tender AV... not sure how counterfactual

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Like the AV above, this Submarine Tender (AS) was intended to provide material for Japan's 'Shadow Carrier' program.

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Fuso after rebuild. She now carries 4 instead of 6 turrets. The removed turrets from the Fuso and Ise classes were used to build the Harima class.

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Next up: alt_naval leaves some mysteries behind and also, alt_naval "Have you seen this pic?"...

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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If you do post unadulterated pics on the NS forum please post us a link so we can view them without the censorship thanks

 

I will post them. I just need to register over there and just want to do those in a single batch.

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well we all can thank WGEU for making the act of sharing our fandom and love for warships a slightly more difficult task!

 

Edited by Takeda92

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Here are some mysteries from alt_naval:

 

First: Counterfactuals was never finished and the files contained these unidentified pics...

 

 

 

 

This Battleship may have been a Brazilian never were. Note the similarity to HMS Agincourt:

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Another Battleship. Any guesses?

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Not much to go on here. My guess: Russian perhaps? Survey says?

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And then there are the ones that got away. A few alt_naval pics still unaccounted for. Have you seen these?

 

 

 

 

First: A mini or 'baby' Hood with 4 x 15" guns. Just TRY entering "Baby Hood" in a search engine!

 

The rest: Four pics at the end of alt_naval's 'Other Projects' page. These are the other missing pics...

 

1.) Yamato vs Iowa. Alt_naval opined that a matchup between these two would be a mess on both sides.His take was summed up in a pic based on the following photo of the Battleship Roma sinking after being hit by Fritz-X guided missiles. Iowa photoshopped in place of Roma...

 

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Title: You Should See The Other Guy!

 

 

 

 

 

2) Next was a simple modification of the following famous photo of the Japanese destroyer Yamakaze seen sinking from the view of the periscope of the USS Nautilus with a smiley face superimposed in place of the Hinomaru....

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Title: Have A Nice Day!

 

 

 

 

3) A Christmas gift was a picture of Admiral Ernest J. King laughing (Scary thought) and holding a book entitled "Convoy Tactics For Dummies" and based on the pic shown here:

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Title: Look What The British Gave Me.

 

 

 

 

The last pic was titled "ME" a self portrait of the computer wielding toddler responsible for all these pics. There is really no point in trying to find, match, or top this last one and is only included on the list for the sake of completeness...

 

 

 

 

 

 

That completes the alt_naval pics but more never weres coming up!


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First up... a couple of never weres from two Warship Projects Board veterans. I offer these in full accrediting and respect:

 

 

 

 

From Canis D: His Queen Victoria Class Battleship and the extensive background he gave the four ships of this class... Queen Victoria, Nile, Trafalgar, and Devastation are first rate!

 

 

 

 

HMS Queen Victoria 1916

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The full range of Canis D's Queen Victoria class pics and story can be found here:http://www.wolfsshipyard.com/Misc/WolfsDen/MISC/Queen_Victoria/queen.htm

 

 

 

 

Another very nice piece is this one I believe belongs to our friend Tzoli...

 

 

 

 

A stretched Littorio with 12 x 15" guns in 4 triple turrets, nice!

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This one is from the late Craig Burke, aka: Admiral U. Furushita... Thank you sir.

 

 

 

 

Three quadruple turrets as originally planned on the KGV 12 x 14" guns.

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HMS Magnificent

 

The rest of Craig Burke's work can be viewed here: http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/furamain.htm#admword

 

 

 

 

Apparently inspired by Craig Burke's Yokozuna Battleship is this pic by LeoVictor:

 

 

 

 

I know I said 'You're gonna need a bigger boat.' but this is a bit much don't you think?

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Yokozuna

 

 

 

 

Edited by Yagami_Crewman

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