[DKE] shane80uk Players 8 posts 3,084 battles Report post #1 Posted December 7, 2016 see image this is how i feel when playing the royal navy line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #2 Posted December 7, 2016 I am guessing you are still quite low tier. Hang in there, after the abomination that is Emerald things get a lot better. Although having said that, I still have the most fun in my Danae. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,370 battles Report post #3 Posted December 7, 2016 You mean like this? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lin3 Players 746 posts Report post #4 Posted December 7, 2016 I don't like the US and Japanese CV lines. So I never play them. There's no reason at all why anyone should play the Royal Navy cruiser line. If you don't like it, there are plenty of other lines you can play. Give Wargaming time and there's a good chance they will buff the lower tiered RN cruisers and nerf the higher tiered ones... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agantas Players 1,059 posts 7,793 battles Report post #5 Posted December 7, 2016 I elited the Emerald today and bought the fast 8 km torps for my Yuugumo for the money I got from selling her. Those torps are really nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVK] Cpt_Andre Players 710 posts 21,666 battles Report post #6 Posted December 7, 2016 First rule of RN club: "shot on the move" 2nd rule: "Situational awareness and positioning is the key" next "The minimap is your friend" and "Use island to reduce the numbers of ships that can shot you" and "Use Smoke to protect you from direct fire" and "Avoid the torps that are heading into your smoke" and "Pop the smoke where other ships will continuous spot your enemy" ... The RN CL Line is hard, harder then the usaually cruiser line, but as soon you understand the idea/playstyle you will have fun with these action-packed rapid-firing ships. After several games i slowly start liking them, liking them very much. They are different, but fun if mastered Do you have trouble with WASD.exe, then dont use the WASD-RTZU-how-long-does-my-smoke-last.exe 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,949 battles Report post #7 Posted December 7, 2016 Have you played destroyers much? It helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #8 Posted December 7, 2016 I'll take a potshot into the blue and guess you're still somewhere in the low tiers (up to and including tier V). Yeah, those suck royally (pun intended). But starting with the tier VI Leander things become FUN!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agantas Players 1,059 posts 7,793 battles Report post #9 Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Have you played destroyers much? It helps. AP ships are fun because you citadel stuff with them. Then, you have Royal Navy. Enter lobbing arcs. Maybe I should shoot more AP with my DDs. I've been spamming HE with them most of the time. Edited December 7, 2016 by Agantas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,949 battles Report post #10 Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) AP ships are fun because you citadel stuff with them. Then, you have Royal Navy. Enter lobbing arcs. Maybe I should shoot more AP with my DDs. I've been spamming HE with them most of the time. If you are at the range when you are lobbing shots in then you are not close enough. And RN AP is way, way better than anyone else's AP for the same calibre. Edited December 7, 2016 by Hedgehog1963 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #11 Posted December 7, 2016 If you are at the range when you are lobbing shots in then you are not close enough. And RN AP is way, way better than anyone else's AP for the same calibre. penetration wise it's actually worse than some others it's just those redicoules normalization angles that makes it that good and of course the short fuses angainst DDs the short fuses are worse against more armored cruisers like the german ones for example as they will detonate before they penetrated the second armor layer behind the main belt means you will get only penetration dmg and no citadels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FredKarno Beta Tester 78 posts 14,524 battles Report post #12 Posted December 8, 2016 I was initially very disheartened by the RN cruisers. My father served on HMS Ajax so was looking forward to the Leander model as much as anyone. Then I saw all the negative posts about the line and felt it just wasn't worth the inevitable disappointment. I decided to wait a while, hoping perhaps for a buff. Then I saw many posts about how the line improves and thought I'd give it a try. I largely chickened out (free xp'd) the lower tiers but when I actually tried them for myself I found that they really are great to play, even for an older and slower player who tends to prefer the long-distance cruiser play-style. If you haven't tried them above tier 5 or 6 then I encourage you to do so. They really do offer a great game-play option and are not so difficult to play. Don't be put off by talk of them being vulnerable, all cruisers are vulnerable, these just need to get a bit closer and have the tools to do so. I'm only up to Tier 7 so cannot speak for the higher tiers but I am looking forward to them all now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #13 Posted December 8, 2016 RN: t1-t5 = lol wtf is this crap i want to kill myself t6+ = ROFL LOL this [edited] is OP asf so i guess youre below tier 6 or bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] CrniVrag [SCRUB] Beta Tester 287 posts Report post #14 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Yes the RN Cruiser line sucks! But no, not rly... Edited December 8, 2016 by CrniVrag 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,949 battles Report post #15 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Ok I've probably rolled this out too often but it remains my "best game ever" given the tier. Speaking of tears, I had something in my eye after this happened with a Royal Navy/Best Navy ship. Edited December 8, 2016 by Hedgehog1963 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #16 Posted December 8, 2016 Pre tier 6, yeah kinda crap. Leander and above? Really good fun and strong ships. Bit tricky to play but very rewarding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXNOM] Spuggy Players 557 posts 6,203 battles Report post #17 Posted December 8, 2016 I don't understand the hate for the tier 3-5 RN CL's. I actually like them a lot. Including the Emerald which I think is really really good. Different strokes for different folks I guess but the low tier RN CL line doesn't suck. They are in fact very very good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #18 Posted December 8, 2016 Problem is as I have said from the start. Tier 4 and 5 are incredibly unfriendly to play which disheartens players from continuing. 6 is good 7 is great and I can't wait to get Edinburgh back as she's my favourite T8 cruiser. 6,7,8 are also nowhere near as explosive. However the 9-10 are but have the massive heal. A very few ... unusual ... individuals like emerald and Danae. This fascinates me, but I'll bet they get a lot of damage by torpedoes, using them as ninja ambush boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXNOM] Spuggy Players 557 posts 6,203 battles Report post #19 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Problem is as I have said from the start. Tier 4 and 5 are incredibly unfriendly to play which disheartens players from continuing. 6 is good 7 is great and I can't wait to get Edinburgh back as she's my favourite T8 cruiser. 6,7,8 are also nowhere near as explosive. However the 9-10 are but have the massive heal. A very few ... unusual ... individuals like emerald and Danae. This fascinates me, but I'll bet they get a lot of damage by torpedoes, using them as ninja ambush boats. I guess I fascinate you then Danae is a great ship. Excellent at area denial. Hide behind an island spamming your SAP at the targets whilst daring them to attack you cause they know you will torp them. Emerald has a massive leap in utility with the addition of smoke and allows you to shoot from smoke easily. The RN CL's are all about planning ahead and keeping to a slightly reserved game play style which can then very quickly become ultra aggressive. I like it. ........ wanna know something really weird? I think the Krasny Krym is awesome and the Sveitlana is the best tier 4 cruiser in the game. Edited December 8, 2016 by Spuggy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #20 Posted December 8, 2016 I've posted it elsewhere as well. I don't grind the line (maybe sometime in the future I will). But I hardly see the RN cruisers ingame. They're either hiding behind a rock, in a cloud or at the bottom the whole match. They don't bother me at all. IIRC I've been sunk by 2 or maybe 3 RN cruisers since the release. I recall 1 incident in which I completely forgot a boat who was hiding behind the island for 15 minutes and once I was being killstolen. And I lost count of how many I've 1 shot, regardless what ship. Heck I don't even run away when playing a DD! Would never ever cross my mind to pick a knife fight with any other cruiser in a DD. But agains the RN cruisers? (non Belfast to nuance that). Bring it on, slight angle and the bounces are annoying for the ears but otherwise I'll ruin their day every encounter! So far I like them: very nice for my dev strike collection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #21 Posted December 8, 2016 Svietlans is great but Krasny Krym is terrible because of MM. And because she's terrible Danae is a great ship... okay... However your advice on gameplay is spot on. Your approach to Danae is also maximising her potential while hiding her weaknesses. When I tested them I was still trying to cruiser conventionally. But Danae is more like an oversized dd with a citadel and I should have played her accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #22 Posted December 8, 2016 Hedgehog1963, on 08 December 2016 - 12:26 AM, said: If you are at the range when you are lobbing shots in then you are not close enough. And RN AP is way, way better than anyone else's AP for the same calibre. penetration wise it's actually worse than some others it's just those redicoules normalization angles that makes it that good and of course the short fuses angainst DDs the short fuses are worse against more armored cruisers like the german ones for example as they will detonate before they penetrated the second armor layer behind the main belt means you will get only penetration dmg and no citadels You don't need a lot of pen to deal consistent regular penetration damage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
procrastinatingStudent Beta Tester 506 posts 6,411 battles Report post #23 Posted December 8, 2016 The line past teir 6 is great and so long as you know your stuff like smoke times, how to sit in it and always knowing where ships are or could be (pesky DDs importantly) your be laughing all day long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #24 Posted December 8, 2016 I'll take a potshot into the blue and guess you're still somewhere in the low tiers (up to and including tier V). Yeah, those suck royally (pun intended). But starting with the tier VI Leander things become FUN!!! I enjoy the rush while playing the higher Tier RN CLs and liked every single ship in the RN line sofar - except TII, that one sucks hard, but so do all other TII cruisers in WoWS. Fiji is a Monster at TVII, Neptune is strong at TIX and Minotaur is downright OP. No other line requires me to have my guard up all the time (except maybe RU DDs) and starting with TVI, the games are - in most cases - not only fun, but effin hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #25 Posted December 8, 2016 Fiji is good, better IMO than the 'OP' Belfast and so far (3 games) Edinburgh has been good but the MM is harsh as all my games so far have been tier 10. You also don't get obvious upgrades from the Fiji guns wise, they are basically the same (though to me sound different), same number of torps but the upgraded ones go 10km instead of 8 and the ship feels about as fast and agile, though you do get the concealment slot and the heal is noticeably better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites