Why play co-op ?

[DreadArchangel]

Well a couple of reasons, most of the time half you're team is not afk'rs and its only late at night when numbers are down do you get bots on you're team, you do not have the toxic behaviour which you get on pvp, downside is wg eu only really cater for pvp, so it takes longer to grind you're higher tier ships, but if you want to just play ships and blow other ships up, its the way to go.

[GaCommanderGice]

Reason number one

 

 

[Hesp]

 

Co-op should be limited to tier IV. Or be eliminated.

 

The higher levels should play pvp to increase the playerbase.

 

[anonym_UgMNTuWYVfiQ]

No snipping. No hiding. No running.  They simply attack and take +/- the short way to you.

[voltaicgrunt]

Played co-op when I first started to get a basic understanding of the game. Played it yesterday for one of the campaigns, and really enjoyed it.

[Teralitha]

I play co-op because its not pvp.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

Co-op should be limited to tier IV. Or be eliminated.

 

The higher levels should play pvp to increase the playerbase.

 

Ha! That remark is on the same level as:

"NOTICE FROM THE MANAGEMENT"

"The beatings will continue until morale increases."

 

The main problems with your ill-informed suggestion are:

1) A substantial portion of the PVE playerbase would just quit the game rather than play PVP, thereby depriving Wargaming of significant revenue (I always see lots of premium ships in Co-op battles, kitted out with camo & flags, and i have spent close to four figures on the game...in GBP)

2) The really good players would like to see more people leaving the PVP game to go play in PVE, not less. These are the potatoes (such as me) who ruin the battles by their poor play.

3) The only people who are happy to see baby seals such as me in PVP are the players who are a bit better than average and see us as easy kills to pad their stats.

 

If you want more people in PVP make it more attractive. Sort out the balance between Rock, Paper and scissors for a start, instead of Rock being top dog over both the others..

 

[OldGrandad]

Co-op should be limited to tier IV. Or be eliminated.

 

The higher levels should play pvp to increase the playerbase.

 

I play co-op  -  a lot. But, 90% only premium ships tier 2 to 4. You though with your limited vision, need to understand, revenue comes from players not the game mode. In all honesty there is not a problem with fulfilling teams until the late hours so your view is mute. I have to say, AI bots play a lot better than what I have witnessed players do today!

 

Accept and move on.

[beercrazy]

I don't play much co op but when I do its usually tier 1 to just have a blast when I am getting loss after loss

[Hades_warrior]

Well a couple of reasons, most of the time half you're team is not afk'rs and its only late at night when numbers are down do you get bots on you're team, you do not have the toxic behaviour which you get on pvp, downside is wg eu only really cater for pvp, so it takes longer to grind you're higher tier ships, but if you want to just play ships and blow other ships up, its the way to go.

 

Playing Co-op in fact have more good side then the bad sides.

For example less stressfull, and good place to do some training.

The only reason I dont like to play that mode is a low amount of EXP you get per battle tho.

 

If WG in the future consider to balance EXP as equaly granted in both modes (Random battles and Co-op), I might start to play Co-op more offen.

 

[Smeggo]

Was playing PvP recently for campaigns.

Was disappointed, noone wanted close-combat-brawling or ramming fun.

Went back to PvE, had more fun.

[Zathras_Grimm]

When I came back to the game a couple of months ago I played Co-Op to get back into the gist of it. I found that it really tested IJN DDs regarding stealth; if you showed yourself you got punished.

 

Of course there's not so much stealth nowadays lol.

[Zogash85]

I still don't see the appeal of co-op, tbh. For the low tiers, where even in co-op it takes only a handful of games to grind through a ship, fine. But after that? I played one accidental Scharnhorst co-op game a while back (new patch set co-op to default and I didn't notice until it was too late) and good lord those bots are moronic... no challenge at all. Nah thanks, I'll stick with PvP.

[Gojuadorai]

there are 2x reasosn to play coop:

 

- you suck but dont want to admit it to not damage your overly high selfesteem

or

- you want to learn how to play CV without beeing reported by your whole team

[voltaicgrunt]

there are 2x reasosn to play coop:

 

- you suck but dont want to admit it to not damage your overly high selfesteem

or

- you want to learn how to play CV without beeing reported by your whole team

 

Good point. Bots need reporting privileges.

[Vaderan]

Co-op should be limited to tier IV. Or be eliminated.

 

The higher levels should play pvp to increase the playerbase.

 

Plain wrong.

 

Do you really beleave, that players, who avoid PvP and prefer Coop for their personal reason, will play PvP and be a valuable addition for PvP, when they are forced to play PvP?

No. They all play PvE for a reason. Take it from them, and they will leave the game.

 

PvP is toxic. PvP is already crowded by so many incompetent players, you cannot carry for all of them, especially with this kind of RNG impact.

I basically left PvP completly, not because of my performance, but the pure rage factor of it. In it´s current state, with the current mechanics, it´s just not worth my time.

At least, PvE makes me throw money at this game and log in once per week. Take it away from me, and i will leave completly, just as i left WoT. Give me a propper PvE mode, and me and my friends will return.

 

If the PvP mode has a problem with the player base and the ammount of players, it´s not the fault of the PvE mode. It´s the fault of a medicore game design and the constant refuse, to change things which deserve a complete overhaul...

[IanH755]

there are 2x reasosn to play coop:

 

- you suck but dont want to admit it to not damage your overly high selfesteem

or

- you want to learn how to play CV without beeing reported by your whole team

 

Or number 3 - You are sick of Toxic PvP players ruining what should be a "fun" game to play.

 

At least with PvE you know exactly what to expect and it requires a completely different play style to PvP. In PvE you have to be just as hyper aggressive as the bots to do well. You can't run away border hugging or hiding behind islands which is what happened when the PvP MM broke a few days ago and PvE was filled with "low PvE skilled" PvP players desperate for a fix. They tried to play it like a PvP game and hated it because Bots charge you down bow on without stopping and the PvP players couldn't cope with that aggression. I saw a full health Scharnhorst and Colorado chased out of a CAP by a single low health Atlanta until they ran into the border and hid just because the Bot Atlanta charged at them (pics in the "great achievement " thread).

 

I've got 1600+ PvP games (until the recent IJN DD reshuffle lost a bunch) and was very good in the T5-6 Ru Cruisers and spend 95% of my games in PvP but slowly swapped over to 95% PvE (600+ games) when the game stopped being something "fun" for me to do after a day at work and I found that the PvP game was making me so angry (potato teams etc) that it was effecting my Real Life. Since the swap I've started to really have fun again and enjoy the game so much more.

 

It also helps that I'd already got most of the ships I really wanted in PvP before the swap so the lower credits/XP isn't an issue really.

[MoveZig]

When you want to grind modules without taking a gimped version of your ship to PVP. Some ships are just horrible stock, e.g. old Mutsuki before getting the torp upgrade.

[ThinderChief]

Windows 10 being an uterly complete piece of garbage, it missuses physical memory like no other operating system i used since Win 95, it's by FAR the worst Windows of all, THAT BAD.

 

So, OK, my system is marginal when it comes to memory; 2GB of Corsair 1333 is barely enough to run the game but it did it until the last big update, then once a sudden, i couldn't play my tVIII and tIX anymore, i did research my North Carolina and Baltimore in Random, but now, only Co-Op runs <> smoothly although with a bit of lag and low fps and not above tVI...

 

So i ordered 4 GB of Corsair 1600, which took a week to reach me after the courrier managed to try to deliver first time at the wrong number, then i realised that it was impossible to use it because Windows 10 doesn't support the ASUS BIOS allowing to run it, in short it doesn't recognise the DIMM at all and i got a black screen from boot.

 

Result: I need to sale it all to Computer Exchange (or perhaps exchange vs a graphic card or playing mice if i'm lucky and they've got something proper), loosing 50% of its value in the process and order a 16GB combo when i got the funds, meanwhile i nurse my Dunkerque Captain, but i got to log out after each game to avoid game freeze, so you can imagine the fun...

 

Good aspect of this: I managed to reduce Windows 10 use of memory by 10% though, got rid of Cortana and lowered some of the system background programs percentage of memory use, sort out the hotkeys etc.

 

Cortana on its own was using up to 36% of it, i'd shoot Bill Gate when the game freezes on one frame and i loose a shot or am unable to reply to fire etc, in a good game i'm happy if i can do 30.000 dmg/1000 XP in those conditions.

 

That's my reason for playing Co-Op, but it's a good practice room... 

 

2) The really good players would like to see more people leaving the PVP game to go play in PVE, not less. These are the potatoes (such as me) who ruin the battles by their poor play.

 

You're much too encline to bow to the "good" players, it doesn't help much for the arrogant and egotripping ones who throw the word "noob" at new comers like an insult and brag about their stats and how good/better they are.

 

FACT is; they NEED lower skilled players or else, they would have to face equally skilled players and their stats would look a tad different.

 

It's time people start to pay respect to lower skilled and beginers, i'm not the kind to bow in real life and if i got a rebuf from an "elite" i rot him/her with some bad English, players invest their dimes in the game, lower skilled players are ALSO customers, the very least those who manage to live of it (or wannabes) could do is to respect those they use as targets to make their bread and butter.

 

In short, wolves respect their preys because they need them to survive, they are at the top of the food chain, but stay humble, if humans CANT do that, they dont deserve mine.

[havaduck]

Co-op should be limited to tier IV. Or be eliminated.

 

The higher levels should play pvp to increase the playerbase.

 

No thx. We definitely should forfeit such a "increase of playerbase". I already get enough people in co-op AND pvp who should outright un-install anyway.

 

 

there are 2x reasosn to play coop:

 

- you suck but dont want to admit it to not damage your overly high selfesteem

or

- you want to learn how to play CV without beeing reported by your whole team

 

I did Nr. 2 when having to play Sky-Carcinoma for GNB and I think its should be common curtsey. Even today I still only bestow Sky-Carcinoma only on bots ....... (if I play Sky-Carcinoma at all ofc)

 

So for the remaining 3 Classes I am going to pick: Option 1.

 

 

btw: I still remember that one all to well .......

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/9009-what-were-your-greatest-gaming-achievements-today/page__st__3000__pid__1457697#entry1457697

 

 

When you want to grind modules without taking a gimped version of your ship to PVP. Some ships are just horrible stock, e.g. old Mutsuki before getting the torp upgrade.

 

Also a move of common courtesy! Unlike the parasites that insist of even grinding the most horrible stock ships, in classes they have no clue off in general, in ranked or as a mercenary in TB .....

[mike_864]

I allways take my new ships out in Co-op first to get a handle on them and grind the first few captain skills ( Warspite, Scharny, Blysca ) so that i don't let my team mates down when i get to play them in PvE,

 

M,

[Lin3]

There's a Challenge mission at the moment to sink 5 ships in Co-op.

 

I might play Co-op just to get this done so that I can see if the next batch of Challenges give any rewards that are actually worth having...

[IanH755]

The new Capaigns have *almost* no Co-Op challenges because WG doesn't cater for PvE.

 

In WG's own words PvE is supposed to be for initial training and then never used again as players move to PvP - Yet over 30% of players are pretty much playing PvE only so I don't understand why WG ignores such a massive percentage to players?

[beercrazy]

The new Capaigns have *almost* no Co-Op challenges because WG doesn't cater for PvE.

 

In WG's own words PvE is supposed to be for initial training and then never used again as players move to PvP - Yet over 30% of players are pretty much playing PvE only so I don't understand why WG ignores such a massive percentage to players?

 

where do you get them statistics that show over 30% play only pve?

put a link up pal so I can check em out please

[Venatacia]

There's a Challenge mission at the moment to sink 5 ships in Co-op.

 

I might play Co-op just to get this done so that I can see if the next batch of Challenges give any rewards that are actually worth having...

 

​^ This.

 

I was like "They are making us play co-op through the campaign sheesh!." And I got killed by a bot, was like a scene from aliens when he pops his head up into the false roof. I was in smoke and popped my ship out to see how far away 1 ship was but to my surprise the hole team was coming straight at me and 2km away; "where did they all come from - they found a weakness god damn them".