[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #51 Posted December 3, 2016 In fairness though, USN could do with a tier 8 premium, they've been long overdue one. Still, I agree that I'd like to see more unique ships come in (2017, you better be good to us!). Really? And the IJN aren't over due a decent Prem BB of any sort? I would instantly buy an AA equipped Kongo. E.g just a late war one, like what the Texas went through... Please WG? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #52 Posted December 3, 2016 The only thing that got upgraded on Kongo AA-wise was adding a *edited*-ton of those 25mm guns (Haruna carried 118 barrels total in 1945). These do about 2 dps per barrel (taken from Yama), having 118 of them would net you 236 dps at 3.1km base range. Count in the DP guns and total base DPS value tops out at around 276. Means a late war Kongo would have more AA power than a top hull Cleve at close range. Yeah, I'd buy that, too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #53 Posted December 3, 2016 Well other then Tosa class, any of those premiums would have bad repercussions for eventual national tree. Tosa would ruin chances of an IJN BC line. Jean Bart, Vittorio Veneto or Roma, and Prince of Wales are all likely candidates for tier 8 premiums however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #54 Posted December 3, 2016 In fairness though, USN could do with a tier 8 premium, they've been long overdue one. Still, I agree that I'd like to see more unique ships come in (2017, you better be good to us!). If tier 8 was long overdue then Texas, Arizona and even Missouri shouldn't have been introduced in the first place. Why do anyone even think 2017 will change anything? 2016 was proof enough. In 2017 we'll see more US premiums, more Soviet premiums, some German premiums and everyone else get one or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #55 Posted December 3, 2016 Awwwww yeeeees however, they better stick an actual realistic and historical camo on her before release. This will do: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #56 Posted December 3, 2016 The only thing that got upgraded on Kongo AA-wise was adding a *edited*-ton of those 25mm guns (Haruna carried 118 barrels total in 1945). These do about 2 dps per barrel (taken from Yama), having 118 of them would net you 236 dps at 3.1km base range. Count in the DP guns and total base DPS value tops out at around 276. Means a late war Kongo would have more AA power than a top hull Cleve at close range. Yeah, I'd buy that, too. That would probably be vaguely ok as Tex AA is for self defence and can't really provide an umbrella for others. Besides WG hate CV so they'll have no issues with releasing something that will hate on them more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander93 Beta Tester 990 posts 3,431 battles Report post #57 Posted December 3, 2016 so it doesnt get the NCs buffed citadel protection and is treated like Iowa and Montana some screens from gm3d (note funky propeller placement) Are those pictures a bit stretched/narrowed or is the South-Dakota class really fat compared to North Carolina and Iowa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KuroNyra Weekend Tester 810 posts 1,271 battles Report post #58 Posted December 3, 2016 Yeah I always thought the South Dak' was a pretty fat one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #59 Posted December 3, 2016 Are those pictures a bit stretched/narrowed or is the South-Dakota class really fat compared to North Carolina and Iowa? All three ships share the same beam (maximum for Panama canal locks) and South Dakota is the shortest. So short answer (pun intended)... yes. Slightly concerned about the shape of the bow, looks a little bit too narrow and sharp, but overall not a bad model. P.S. the weird prop arrangement was because of an idea that the outer shafts (and their skegs) would protect the inner ones from torpedo damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #60 Posted December 3, 2016 Tosa would ruin chances of an IJN BC line. Jean Bart, Vittorio Veneto or Roma, and Prince of Wales are all likely candidates for tier 8 premiums however. Well, the thing is to choose between the Kii and the Tosa. One of those should be premium and the other, in the BB line And I will stop the off-topic here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #61 Posted December 3, 2016 Are those pictures a bit stretched/narrowed or is the South-Dakota class really fat compared to North Carolina and Iowa? no those pics arent streched in any way the SDs were really that "fat" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hateshinaku WoWs Wiki Team, Players, Sailing Hamster, Modder 1,625 posts 2,725 battles Report post #62 Posted December 3, 2016 Never call a Lady fat >_> she just got some elegant lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander93 Beta Tester 990 posts 3,431 battles Report post #63 Posted December 3, 2016 All three ships share the same beam (maximum for Panama canal locks) and South Dakota is the shortest. So short answer (pun intended)... yes. Wow, really? She looks 1,5x as wide. The NC and the Iowa (ingame) comparibly have much less space between the turrets and the edges of the deck. They could barely fit two turrets across the width of the ship while the Alabame looks like she could fit three. Perhaps it's just the way the models are shown. The angles could be screwing with my perception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #64 Posted December 3, 2016 Yay, more boring, redundant and unimaginative US premium BBs. It seems WG haven't met their quota on sucking off NA players this year. The US is the only nation without a significant tier 8 premium at present. suggest another candidate. I mean yes i would dearly love CV-6 but thats not coming any time soon. I don't think a US tier 8 premium CA would work and they've already got the paypal benson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #65 Posted December 3, 2016 The US is the only nation without a significant tier 8 premium at present. suggest another candidate. I mean yes i would dearly love CV-6 but thats not coming any time soon. I don't think a US tier 8 premium CA would work and they've already got the paypal benson US without tier 8 but they have tier a premium on many other tiers including tier 9 soon. Meanwhile, some nations have massive holes and could really use a premium. Not sure why a tier 8 premium is such a big deal, especially since there are plenty of tier 7 prems and a tier 9 that is coming soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #66 Posted December 3, 2016 US without tier 8 but they have tier a premium on many other tiers including tier 9 soon. Meanwhile, some nations have massive holes and could really use a premium. Not sure why a tier 8 premium is such a big deal, especially since there are plenty of tier 7 prems and a tier 9 that is coming soon. *cough* japan *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #67 Posted December 3, 2016 Wow, really? She looks 1,5x as wide. The NC and the Iowa (ingame) comparibly have much less space between the turrets and the edges of the deck. They could barely fit two turrets across the width of the ship while the Alabame looks like she could fit three. Perhaps it's just the way the models are shown. The angles could be screwing with my perception. She has much wider lines, only getting narrower closer to the extreme bow/stern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #68 Posted December 3, 2016 Well, she has the same beam as North Carolina (33m), but is 10m shorter in length. She also has all her DP guns mounted on her (much wider) superstructure unlike NC which has her outermost turrets mounted on the main deck. So yeah, she's a little... pudgy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #69 Posted December 3, 2016 US without tier 8 but they have tier a premium on many other tiers including tier 9 soon. Meanwhile, some nations have massive holes and could really use a premium. Not sure why a tier 8 premium is such a big deal, especially since there are plenty of tier 7 prems and a tier 9 that is coming soon. cos tier 8 is the best one for farming credits and xp which is normally what a premium ship is for. Japan has a premium 8, Russia has one, Germany has one. The Missouri will probably cost an absolute truck load of free xp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #70 Posted December 3, 2016 cos tier 8 is the best one for farming credits and xp which is normally what a premium ship is for. Japan has a premium 8, Russia has one, Germany has one. The Missouri will probably cost an absolute truck load of free xp Isn't it WG policy to have T8 as the "top" tier for their Prem ships (not withstanding the odd special) and general competitive stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #71 Posted December 3, 2016 Not bad, but I'd rather have USS Alaska at 7 for more variety. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #72 Posted December 3, 2016 there are already 5 USN Tier 7 Premium its enough for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #73 Posted December 3, 2016 there are already 5 USN Tier 7 Premium its enough for now Okay, move Alaska to 6 then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #74 Posted December 3, 2016 If Alabama is on the cards then I'm withholding buying NC Permanent Camo and I'm certainly not going Missouri! It's partly why I think Permanent Camo should transform a ship into a full blown Premium ship. With all the relevant buffs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #75 Posted December 4, 2016 If Alabama is on the cards then I'm withholding buying NC Permanent Camo and I'm certainly not going Missouri! It's partly why I think Permanent Camo should transform a ship into a full blown Premium ship. With all the relevant buffs... in which case can anyone who has Iowa with a permanent camo be awarded a missouri ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
