Bismarck or North Carolina?

[Tyskland169]

Can someone compare these ships? 

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

Bis ---amagi - nc , so go bis ofc with 10km 2ndaries its not even need to compare lol

[Admiral_Noif]

Bismarck is much better than NC (In my eyes and my experience) 

 

[Xerkics]

North Carolina is much better at long range but Bismarck will eat you alive at under 11km so if you camp Bismarck is wasted on players that don't brawl

[_ramrus_]

Depends on the captain and playstyle. To me Bismarck is a turd without 15 point captain.

[ilhilh]

NCal is incredibly strong with its Bow armor, amazing AA and ability to have 6 turrets firing when in tank mode.

 

Bismarck is king of the brawlers with those meaty 10km secondaries (when specced for it), turtleback armour and fast firing guns, but they lack the punch of the non-km BBs and you have a lot superstructure.  you might not get citadelled but you sure eat consistent damage.

 

I kept them both, because I love them both in their own way but it depends on whether you have only 1 playstyle.

[Gojuadorai]

North Carolina is much better at long range but Bismarck will eat you alive at under 11km so if you camp Bismarck is wasted on players that don't brawl

 

pretty much this.

 

nca has a insane AA defense but needs so because of prety static gameplay

(you may not get shoot in the sides else youll sink quickly so turning is often a big nono)

 

bismark is a front line ship

(although you shouldnt rush in blindly cause big turning cicle and shitty torp protection)

[Comrad_StaIin]

NCs accuracy is uncomparable it also got tremendous penetration and can punch through deck armor at mid range because of its rainbow arcs so it can fight Bow on ships pretty darn good

[Close_Quarters_Expert]

For my two cents;

 

- Amagi is the high alpha long to mid range dueller which can put serious hurt on anyone but needs good positioning constantly

-Bismarck is the pusher who makes enemies regret their decisions in life

-NC is queen of tier 8, as she can effectively fight in all three ranges and most types of engagement (with a good captain, that is). She's good for brawling with Bis at close range due to her tank mode and dispersion.

[Redcap375]

Gne is IMHO better then both and its a tier below. I really really like this ship at the moment and is my go to BB (normally a CV/CL player)

 

Some ships you see scares you, a DD captain seeing a Belfast for instance and rightly so. But when i'm in the Gne that is never the case.  Give me a Bis or NC and i will do one of 3 things.

 

1) Get close and personal with some drive-by torping and Secondary action. 

2) He he doesnt allow that to happen (which he will if he is a Bis) blow him to shreads when he turns to run.

3) If all else fails then RAM HIM! He's a tier above and well worth the trade off 

4) Sit Bow on and completely hold a flank on your own (like yesterdays games) whilst your fleet plough though broadside them as the enemy are hell bent on destroying you.

 

IMHO

[Redcap375]

Gotta ask but anyone else experienced this? How did you find the Bismack after the Gne? both have 4 bow facing guns?

[Comrad_StaIin]

Gotta ask but anyone else experienced this? How did you find the Bismack after the Gne? both have 4 bow facing guns?

 

you dont bow fight in german BBs 

[Redcap375]

I would beg to differ.  Considering that it only has a further 2 at the back? Alot of the Secs are forward facing too.

[T_H_0_R]

Having both (with 18 pt captains), Bismarck is no doubt great fun. But my heart lies with NC. Phenomenal AA and gun sigma 2.0 make for surgical precision. When you have a cruiser showing you broadside under 10km - NC will deliver rounds on citadel 9/10 times. Bismarck perhaps 1/3.

 

Gotta ask but anyone else experienced this? How did you find the Bismack after the Gne? both have 4 bow facing guns?

 

Leaps and bounds better than Gne. Not to say RNGnau was bad, I had great time in it. Just no where near Bis and NC IMHO.

 

I prefer ShinyHorse over RNGnau, though its dispersion could also earn her the same title. 

[Redcap375]

Having both (with 18 pt captains), Bismarck is no doubt great fun. But my heart lies with NC. Phenomenal AA and gun sigma 2.0 make for surgical precision. When you have a cruiser showing you broadside under 10km - NC will deliver rounds on citadel 9/10 times. Bismarck perhaps 1/3.

 

 

Leaps and bounds better than Gne. Not to say RNGnau was bad, I had great time in it. Just no where near Bis and NC IMHO.

 

I prefer ShinyHorse over RNGnau, though its dispersion could also earn her the same title. 

 

Its just that those torps that the Bismarck doesn't have always sealed the deal when im up against them.  I'm this close to getting the ShinyHorse, but i've been saying that of ages now  Don't like going with the flow (3 Horses in each battle)

 

You know what, sod it, i'm gonna grind the US BB line now (think i got to the Col then stopped, BBs wasnt my thing at the time). Can see me enjoying the NC. 

[ilhilh]

I would beg to differ.  Considering that it only has a further 2 at the back? Alot of the Secs are forward facing too.

 

 

You asked how things were post Gneisenau and then 'beg to differ' using the Gneisenau for your argument when he says you shouldn't play them bow on. Huh?

 

The Gneisenau/Scharnhorst are the exceptions with their 3 turret configuration but I have never really felt the need to play either of those particularly bow on anyway.

 

The Bismarck certainly shouldn't be played bow on even if it shares the same 4-forward-facing-gun arrangement.

[ItachiZero]

with a name like that. Bismark

[Redcap375]

 

 

You asked how things were post Gneisenau and then 'beg to differ' when he says you shouldn't play them bow on. Huh?

 

The Gneisenau/Scharnhorst are the exceptions with their 3 turret configuration but I have never really felt the need to play either of those particularly bow on anyway.

 

The Bismarck certainly shouldn't be played bow on even if it shares the same 4-forward-facing-gun arrangement.

 

Huh? I didn't ask for anyone's option on German BB play-style (Like you are randomly mentioning), just the Bismarck in general (post Gen.) How did you find the Bismarck after the Gne? Was the original question?? He came back with you dont play German BBs bow on? Nothing about the Bis but German BBs in general? 

 

If i would have said " How do you play German BBs" or "how do you play the Bismarck" then i would have understood your comment but I would have responded with "IMHO".

 

Saying i shouldn't play them bow on implies that i'm doing it, in THEIR opinion wrong.  All i'm saying is IMHO it isn't.  Nothing wrong there 

 

I didn't crucify the bloke did I mate?

 

[Redcap375]

Anywho, i'm still looking forward to the Bis regardless (another BB)  i just don't have problems facing one in the Gne, a tier less.

[TuckerLT]

German BBs and your life is easy.

[Ictogan]

NC has much better AA and better guns than Bismarck(more accurate and packing quite a bit more punch). Bismarck on the other hand reigns supreme when it comes to tanking and secondaries and has Hydro, which is an extremely useful utility.

[TeddyTeargas]

I perfer Bismarck (with manual secondaries) over NC

 

[albinbino]

All german BBs are OP, so go for that. That is why there are so many of those in battles. Weak players especially enjoy german BBs because they can last long in them and feel safe.

[Srle_Vigilante]

Depends on your play style.

[Xerkics]

Amagi is a paper soft ship in comparison its guns are nice but you have to show soooo much broadside to fire all your guns that it can eat giant amounts of dmg if not careful neither Bismarck or north ca has that problem