HellsDD Players 3 posts 24,843 battles Report post #1 Posted November 23, 2016 hvem your play in tir 8-9-X. game. and there Are (cv) in them game, IT is Allmost them best (cv) player there vins then game... there have to much power.. here your can se in this profil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PBB] Bessmecher Players 35 posts 4,551 battles Report post #2 Posted November 23, 2016 here we go again... 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LazyInsight Players 136 posts 3,209 battles Report post #3 Posted November 23, 2016 there have to much power.. here your can se in this profil. So what do yo think should be done then? Also why are you even pointing out destruction ratio (kill/death ratio), it has no meaning in case of carriers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WIND] Elenortirion Players 1,890 posts 2,549 battles Report post #4 Posted November 23, 2016 heh obvious troll is obvious! or is it... really? [and I call BS on this thing with "team with bestt carrier wins" - no matter how good CV player is he won't be able to carry a team that just dies faster than he can service the planes - at least as long as oposite team has and residue of brain between their ears - and I have seen alot of games where team with considerably better CV player has lost due to being outplayed by the other team] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #5 Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Tier 9 carriers are seriousy UP. It is unfair that tier 8 BB with few perks is untouchable for tier 9 CV. Here is the proof. Look how much exp he made attacking lower tier. Edited November 23, 2016 by KptStrzyga 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #6 Posted November 23, 2016 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaraMon Players 4,154 posts 9,221 battles Report post #7 Posted November 23, 2016 hvem your play in tir 8-9-X. game. But you are true , THE BEST players wins the game, so maybe they should be nerfed not the CV 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAMNO] Seinta Beta Tester 857 posts 12,319 battles Report post #8 Posted November 23, 2016 I have an idea! Ban all unicums because they are too stronk! Also looking at your own stats ...... you are a pretty good example that they are not OP. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #9 Posted November 23, 2016 cv arent OP anymore ,,,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Alie_ Beta Tester, Players 2,019 posts 5,541 battles Report post #10 Posted November 23, 2016 hvem your play in tir 8-9-X. game. and there Are (cv) in them game, IT is Allmost them best (cv) player there vins then game... there have to much power.. here your can se in this profil. ha, haha hahahah hHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA.... nope.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PST] Erik_Aukan Players 185 posts 18,660 battles Report post #11 Posted November 23, 2016 So the OP is complaining that the best players win the game? Should it really be different? doesn't matter what type of ships they play, everything would be overpowered in their hands anyways. Carriers really need a rework, the balance between US and IJN carriers is really bad at the moment. Tests from the 0.5.14 shows that the hakkuriyu has a much higher winrate than Midway, Saipan (one of the few US carreris with a high winrate) plummets to the floor compared to any IJN carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #12 Posted November 23, 2016 here your can se in this profil. Wrong example my friend. You should post this: http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/503973851-papedipupi/!/pvp/overview/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babykim Beta Tester 1,649 posts 6,477 battles Report post #13 Posted November 23, 2016 The OP assessment is completely correct, but nothing new. So what? We gonna trash a guy to death on his second posting? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #14 Posted November 23, 2016 OP got farmed by triple IJN torp bombers for the very first time. Life goes on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] mcboernester Privateer 6,009 posts 14,314 battles Report post #15 Posted November 23, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] Namolis Players 751 posts 18,410 battles Report post #16 Posted November 23, 2016 Guys; part of what OP is saying is true, it's not even worth arguing against. The statistics is there for anyone to see: You can look at the top players in TX CVs and compare their average damage to the top players in any other class of ship. Or WR. Or kills/deaths. Or any metric you want. They will be considerably better. Fortunately for us all, few players are as good as exilde. However; while CVs have a higher skill ceiling than other ships, CVs are not necessarily doing better on average - they take a long time to master properly. Some of them do over perform (like tier 10), but then again; all classes have examples of ships performing well for their tier; T10 just happen to be the golden one for CVs. A poor CV is just as worthless as a poor <any other ship>, or possibly even worse because he has just pulled your team into combat with an enemy who may have a good CV. So what to do? CVs have limitations: they come with great utility (spotting) and great alpha, but pitiful sustained DPM (planes take a long time to reload). If you move in a giant death ball, it can be hard for the CV to attack a ship without finding his planes inside multiple AA auras, but this has the disadvantage that you tend to lose out on caps. So: If you know that the enemy has a superb CV, it could be smart to spur your team on to be aggressive and settle the fight early before his accurate deletions have time to influence the game while at the same time sticking together for AA. Similarly, if you have a very skilled CV on your team, it can be smart to be a little conservative early on and allow him some time to work his magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babykim Beta Tester 1,649 posts 6,477 battles Report post #17 Posted November 23, 2016 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAMNO] Seinta Beta Tester 857 posts 12,319 battles Report post #18 Posted November 23, 2016 The OP assessment is completely correct, but nothing new. So what? We gonna trash a guy to death on his second posting? Dude has nearly 10k games and only has his 2nd forum post today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babykim Beta Tester 1,649 posts 6,477 battles Report post #19 Posted November 23, 2016 Dude has nearly 10k games and only has his 2nd forum post today. Since when is not using the forum a crime? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #20 Posted November 23, 2016 I do not think that CVs are OP, but that games get more boring if people play correctly against them. If you hold together with cruisers and BB in a solid lemming train, the CV planes will really struggle. However, I think this make for a boring game where the games are dominated by two camping lemmingtrains. Ships being afraid to push out of fear of ending up alone and getting picked on by the CV. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #21 Posted November 23, 2016 I do not think that CVs are OP, but that games get more boring if people play correctly against them. If you hold together with cruisers and BB in a solid lemming train, the CV planes will really struggle. However, I think this make for a boring game where the games are dominated by two camping lemmingtrains. Ships being afraid to push out of fear of ending up alone and getting picked on by the CV. It's not a lemming train if the ships stay alive and stop the other team achieving their goals. One person's boring camp fest is another's engaging tactical battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #22 Posted November 23, 2016 Tier 9 carriers are seriousy UP. It is unfair that tier 8 BB with few perks is untouchable for tier 9 CV. Here is the proof. Look how much exp he made attacking lower tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #23 Posted November 23, 2016 It's not a lemming train if the ships stay alive and stop the other team achieving their goals. One person's boring camp fest is another's engaging tactical battle. It is just my opinion off course, but if the CVs come back in force, I simply go elsewhere. I think games get more boring with one CV and games with 2 CVs are awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LazyInsight Players 136 posts 3,209 battles Report post #24 Posted November 23, 2016 It is just my opinion off course, but if the CVs come back in force, I simply go elsewhere. I think games get more boring with one CV and games with 2 CVs are awful. I hope that CVs will be more popular, it would make me play more. Specifically because early recon they provide allows team to make some early decisions who goes where. Thanks to that people dont just go in the dark - this streamlines the battle, makes it more fluent. This is also only just my own opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #25 Posted November 23, 2016 I hope that CVs will be more popular, it would make me play more. Specifically because early recon they provide allows team to make some early decisions who goes where. Thanks to that people dont just go in the dark - this streamlines the battle, makes it more fluent. This is also only just my own opinion. It is however limited how much of the battlefield the plans can cover at one time, and you still have the problem with any ship leaving the lemmingtrain being jumped by a lot of bombers and torpedo planes... It is better that people go in the dark than people not going anywhere except camping around their spawnpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites