Cruiser gameplay videos

[Surmaaja]

What does it take to elevate your cruiser gameplay onto the next level? Post your cruiser moments and let's find out together what did you do wrong. What were your mistakes and how you should've played to turn your premature death into match where you carry your team.

 

My episode 1 was analyzed already here http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/67024-something-needs-to-be-done-about-bbs/page__st__180__pid__1445391#entry1445391

 

Now it's time for Episode 2. Episode where I embrace the death, pinned down behind an island. Eventually trying to deny the kill from a Bayern but getting destroyed by her anyways . It's a bit longer than the first one since I wanted to include the previous events which lead me into my salty grave.

 

 

[ghostbuster_]

so what is wrong with that? you sailed full broadside to a bayern at 10 km. should you be able to survive this? about you first video, bismarck predicts that turn and shoots for it. whats about it?

[SovietFury43]

 

Yep, i tried as well. Pretty much the same result with multiple ships. Either you are stuck around islands the whole match and useless or you get stomped the moment you try to leave the island.

 

This whole "You didn't use the islands for cover" crap is just an excuse used by BB defenders. I had much better results when i was dodging fire rather then hiding behind islands.

 

[cro_pwr]

Using island as cover doesn't mean to be detected all the time with your bow out in front hoping nobody can shoot you.
Its using them to become / stay undetected, while lobbing shells from behind the island, or repositioning yourself when you get undetected.

 

This was another mistake. You got yourself into bad position (against 2 dds and 2 bbs), and instead of abandoning it, you tried to camp behind with CV in the game, and DDs lurking around to torp you.
To be honest, you are quite lucky (or better to say, Fuso is quite unlucky) to survive first 2 salvos from Fuso that dropped everywhere around you, but not hitting you (rng ftw). From that angle, with that plunging fire, they could've easily citadel you trough your front guns and delete you in a second.

 

PS. I think you need more mods and a smaller minimap

[Surmaaja]

Using island as cover doesn't mean to be detected all the time with your bow out in front hoping nobody can shoot you.

Its using them to become / stay undetected, while lobbing shells from behind the island, or repositioning yourself when you get undetected.

 

This was another mistake. You got yourself into bad position (against 2 dds and 2 bbs), and instead of abandoning it, you tried to camp behind with CV in the game, and DDs lurking around to torp you.

To be honest, you are quite lucky (or better to say, Fuso is quite unlucky) to survive first 2 salvos from Fuso that dropped everywhere around you, but not hitting you (rng ftw). From that angle, with that plunging fire, they could've easily citadel you trough your front guns and delete you in a second.

 

PS. I think you need more mods and a smaller minimap

Thanks. I'll admit that was a kinda sticky situation. Had to get the cap somehow though and that island happened to be the only cover around. Which mods would you suggest?

 

so what is wrong with that? you sailed full broadside to a bayern at 10 km. should you be able to survive this? about you first video, bismarck predicts that turn and shoots for it. whats about it?

I was expecting a bit more indepth analysis but I'll take it.

 

edit. If it's not obvious, this is not a troll thread. Gamesense is probably the most important aspect in cruiser gameplay, because that's all you have, you can't rely on armor and apparently minimizing your profile only gets you so far. I really would like to find out what kind of tactical decisions people would have taken in these sticky situations. Although it spawned from a silly joke, I've been thinking about a topic like this for a while now.

[Muckleburgh]

 

 

After 7 disastrous lost battles in a row, I finally got on a winning team. Objective: Find cover, stay in cover, get the hang of torpedoes, survive the battle and don't head butt Battleships.

 

 

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[cro_pwr]

You did a critical mistake around 7th minute (didn't watch the whole video) that will usually get you killed in a seconds against a good players.
 

1st: You gave full broadside to Bogatyr shooting AP at you, so if he aimed a bit better, or had a bit more luck with dispersion (don't know which one is it), he would easily citadel you and deal massive damage to you with every shell

2nd: And this one is even worst, and thats what gets you deleted in a seconds. You completely neglected their Nassau. For a minute or so, you didn't even check what is he doing, you didn't check is he aiming at you, and you even showed full broadside to him as well. If he had been a bit more experienced player, he would delete you instantly. You cannot tunnel vision like that, and ignore enemy BBs. While aiming, always press right mouse click to quickly check your surroundings, is any BB aiming your way, are there torps approaching, did someone just pop out behind some island etc. And ALWAYS keep your eyes on their battleships and where they are aiming at. ALWAYS.

[Muckleburgh]

Good advice, thanks.

 

In mitigation, I did kill 'em both.

 

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[ghostbuster_]

 

I was expecting a bit more indepth analysis but I'll take it.

 

edit. If it's not obvious, this is not a troll thread. Gamesense is probably the most important aspect in cruiser gameplay, because that's all you have, you can't rely on armor and apparently minimizing your profile only gets you so far. I really would like to find out what kind of tactical decisions people would have taken in these sticky situations. Although it spawned from a silly joke, I've been thinking about a topic like this for a while now.

fist tactical advise from my side: dont get into situations like that. you have to make yourself a hard target. wiggle your ship. 

[ghostbuster_]

You did a critical mistake around 7th minute (didn't watch the whole video) that will usually get you killed in a seconds against a good players.

 

1st: You gave full broadside to Bogatyr shooting AP at you, so if he aimed a bit better, or had a bit more luck with dispersion (don't know which one is it), he would easily citadel you and deal massive damage to you with every shell

2nd: And this one is even worst, and thats what gets you deleted in a seconds. You completely neglected their Nassau. For a minute or so, you didn't even check what is he doing, you didn't check is he aiming at you, and you even showed full broadside to him as well. If he had been a bit more experienced player, he would delete you instantly. You cannot tunnel vision like that, and ignore enemy BBs. While aiming, always press right mouse click to quickly check your surroundings, is any BB aiming your way, are there torps approaching, did someone just pop out behind some island etc. And ALWAYS keep your eyes on their battleships and where they are aiming at. ALWAYS.

 

IMO, this video is full of mistakes. he didnt shoot a single shell until 15:44 on such a small map just because he decided to go to otherside all the way around. that was the fist misteke. he basicly suicided there like you said. and launching torpedos... he launched every single one of them to the indicator one by one. no prediction, nothing. he managed to kill that CA because other CA was bad enough to sail in a straight line that long. and that BB was also very bad. if our guy could predict little bit, he would kill that BB long before his death.

 

@Muckleburgh, i suggest you to watch some videos on youtube. there are really good players who also teach how to play in general and what to do in certain situations. 

[Muckleburgh]

So what did you think of the plan?

 

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[Surmaaja]

 

After 7 disastrous lost battles in a row, I finally got on a winning team. Objective: Find cover, stay in cover, get the hang of torpedoes, survive the battle and don't head butt Battleships.

 

I think you played well, the torpedo attacks were a bit of a risky move but they paid off eventually. Looking at the minimap in the youtube, I would've been a bit more careful with the Bogatyr. You really wanted to score those broadside shots, I would have probably done the same thing but in the end you drifted way too close to the Nassau and ended up being an easy target for a BB. All in all, it's incredibly easy to get distracted when you have an easy kill in your sights. I do this all the time.

[Muckleburgh]

Thanks. Here's the thought process to go with the battle.

 

With 7 failed dismal Calledon battles in a row behind me, I have 2 choices.

Follow the herd across to area A, fire off a few shots, then be the 1st to die.

Or.

Do something different.

Go South, stay cloaked behind the large island in the hope somebody will try for B and get that all important torp. kill I so desire.

On the way down I spot a Cruiser, running down the East side, so I carry on through the narrow strait and then travel East to get behind the small island for torpedo cover.

It turns out to be a Bogatyr going for B, but a Kaelsruhe offers a better target, so I go for that, but didn't get the kill.

I chip away at the Bogatyr next, but I'm getting nowhere and the island doesn't offer protection from shells, so now it's time for a torpedo rush and I don't care if I die, I want that torp thump sound.

A Nassau has joined in at B, so I decide to go stbd side set for the Cruiser, then port set for the Battler. Now it's starting to become fun.

tbc

 

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